The Energon Pub

[RodimusConvoy13]

Has anyone come up with a good way for Megatron's head not to droop in Robot mode?

[Hellscream9999]

So after a couple weeks, I still love sideswipes' transformation, it's just pure magic in how effective it is; I also like the effect of giving him a 'cockpit' but it's not actually able to seat a 'driver', I actually like the effect and it goes a long way towards de-earthing him quite a bit.

[TF-fan kev777]

Siege Voyagers are back in stock on HasbroToyShop.com and the 15% of BUZZBUZZ code is still available too. I jumped after kicking myself for a few weeks when I passed at 20% off and patiently waited for them to return. (okay, impatiently waited)

[ZeroWolf]

While most of the first wave of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege line has hit stores, the Leader Class assortment has remained elusive for many, however YouTuber, doublej101, has just uploaded a video review of the forthcoming Leader Class Ultra Magnus! Offering the best look yet at this figure which should be in your hands very, very soon!

This video gives us a good look at the transformation and several size comparisons to Rodimus Prime and Optimus Prime from the Power of the Primes toy line.

We have embedded the video below for your convenience.



Will you be hunting this figure down? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

[Nathaniel Prime]

Even though he's much smaller than CW Magnus, I still think he is great. Although, that ankle issue is a little weird. It's a little forced like CW Magnus, yet it still has tillage, just not fully straight. Anyway, he looks great, and I like him

[reluctantyouth]

Morning,

I just ordered voyager Megs off Hasbro at 6:35 am central time 12.29.18

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and code buzzbuzz still working! Free shipping still too!

[Emerje]

HTS code HASFAM18 still works and will get you a better deal ($6 off) each Voyager and free shipping instead of $4.50 from BUZZBUZZ. Ordered both Prime and Megatron for $50 and some change after tax.

Emerje

[no-one]

HTS code HASFAM18 still works and will get you a better deal ($6 off) each Voyager and free shipping instead of $4.50 from BUZZBUZZ. Ordered both Prime and Megatron for $50 and some change after tax.

Emerje

Thanks for the tip about the extra off, I jumped

[Nemesis Maximo]

Oh God, he’s so tiny. Barely bigger than a Voyager.

He looks good, don’t get me wrong, just short. I think I’ll be okay keeping my CW Magnus on my shelf.

[TF-fan kev777]

Oh God, he’s so tiny. Barely bigger than a Voyager.

He looks good, don’t get me wrong, just short. I think I’ll be okay keeping my CW Magnus on my shelf.

Yeah, this review just put Siege UM on the no thanks list for me too. Way too small.

[-Kanrabat-]

Oh God, he’s so tiny. Barely bigger than a Voyager.

He looks good, don’t get me wrong, just short. I think I’ll be okay keeping my CW Magnus on my shelf.

I do have CW leader Magnus. And the siege one will look FANTASTIC at his side. Both are clearly different and having the return of White Optimus with his power armor just stroke me the right way.

[Randomhero]

Oh God, he’s so tiny. Barely bigger than a Voyager.

He looks good, don’t get me wrong, just short. I think I’ll be okay keeping my CW Magnus on my shelf.

Hasbro and takara are basing it off the official scale guide used back in the original cartoon. Leader class isn’t about height this time around. It’s giving you the closest accurately scaled figures and adding stuff like the Magnus armor and shockwaves battle upgrade. Just like how the legends class has been replaced with micromasters.

[Skritz]

Different strokes for different people: I'm quite interested in a Magnus that is bigger than Optimus Prime but isn't humongously huge. The Leader size class has always been a tad too big for me unless it's for huge-ass Transformers like Overlord. Not only that but the TR Leaders were a bit too brick-ish for my tastes so if a smaller Leader mean more budget spent on articulation/transformation/features I'm all for downscaling a bit.

Edit: Want the perfect example of a recent Leader figure that could have been better if he had been made smaller and more intricate? Sixshot.

[Rodimus Prime]

I've been going back and forth on this figure, and the video pretty much swung it to the 'should get' side. I already thought that the PoTP leaders were too big and clumsy, and the comparison to this figure just reinforces that. I don't care for the vehicle mode, but the Ultra Magnus mode looks great. If I see it, I will buy it.

[Skritz]

I've been going back and forth on this figure, and the video pretty much swung it to the 'should get' side. I already thought that the PoTP leaders were too big and clumsy, and the comparison to this figure just reinforces that. I don't care for the vehicle mode, but the Ultra Magnus mode looks great. If I see it, I will buy it.

Yeah I'M pretty much on the same boat, which is why I still ended up skipping POTP Optimus Prime and Rodimus.

[starrhero]

Siege Voyagers are back in stock on HasbroToyShop.com and the 15% of BUZZBUZZ code is still available too. I jumped after kicking myself for a few weeks when I passed at 20% off and patiently waited for them to return. (okay, impatiently waited)

The other 2 micromaster teams have also come back in stock as of now. Now we wait for the deluxes.

[Lore Keeper]

I don't have an issue with Magnus and Shockwave being small for the sake of scale. It makes for a great display piece. My issue is the question of whether this is $50 worth of toy. Are we getting a similar value for our dollar? If they want to shrink down their toys, fine. Just reduce the price accordingly.

[-Kanrabat-]

I don't have an issue with Magnus and Shockwave being small for the sake of scale. It makes for a great display piece. My issue is the question of whether this is $50 worth of toy. Are we getting a similar value for our dollar? If they want to shrink down their toys, fine. Just reduce the price accordingly.

The "size" is no argument. Sure, the material do count, but prices of everything do increase and it's enough that transformers became 1/3 more expensive already. The price should not double right away. We saw that transition between ROTF and DOTM. It's happening again but not as much.

At least, the quality of the toys themselves did increase since last time. We see more engeneering and more paint than ever before. Plus now leader class mean more than just size. As seen in the SS line, it also mean parts count and mass. So despite Magnus and Shockwave being basically voyagers, they come whit a whole armor set. Thus justifying their class. And I think it's perfect this way.

[Randomhero]

I don't have an issue with Magnus and Shockwave being small for the sake of scale. It makes for a great display piece. My issue is the question of whether this is $50 worth of toy. Are we getting a similar value for our dollar? If they want to shrink down their toys, fine. Just reduce the price accordingly.

Again. Stop comparing them to previous leader class figures. That’s not this line. Are they voyager size? Yes. Is that the only thing coming in the package? No. You’re getting a weaponizers gimmick as well. Magnus comes with his armor with parts that can work with others and so is Shockwave. Shockwave comes with his own complete weaponizer stuff that is completely interchangeable with everyone else in this line and can be turned into a hover craft as well.

That’s the leader class gimmick. If you’re not happy with it and choose to ignore that aspect that’s your fault and problem not the toy or company’s

[Lore Keeper]

I don't have an issue with Magnus and Shockwave being small for the sake of scale. It makes for a great display piece. My issue is the question of whether this is $50 worth of toy. Are we getting a similar value for our dollar? If they want to shrink down their toys, fine. Just reduce the price accordingly.

Again. Stop comparing them to previous leader class figures. That’s not this line. Are they voyager size? Yes. Is that the only thing coming in the package? No. You’re getting a weaponizers gimmick as well. Magnus comes with his armor with parts that can work with others and so is Shockwave. Shockwave comes with his own complete weaponizer stuff that is completely interchangeable with everyone else in this line and can be turned into a hover craft as well.

That’s the leader class gimmick. If you’re not happy with it and choose to ignore that aspect that’s your fault and problem not the toy or company’s

Your hostility is misplaced. I am not complaining about the gimmick; I like the gimmick. I'm not complaining about the height; they scale better than old leaders. I am simply stating that I am suspicious that if you factor in the pros and cons of the new approach, it doesn't add up to something that should cost 50 bucks. I could very well be wrong. I don't know the ins and outs of toy design. But, at a surface level, the price tag seems superfluous.

[-Kanrabat-]

I am simply stating that I am suspicious that if you factor in the pros and cons of the new approach, it doesn't add up to something that should cost 50 bucks. I could very well be wrong. I don't know the ins and outs of toy design. But, at a surface level, the price tag seems superfluous.

That apply to current deluxes and voyagers as well. It piss me off to have to pay VOYAGER prices for deluxes and ULTRA prices for voyagers. At least the overall quality went back to the same as when I first started to collect in 2009.

This damper my collecting by a lot and I'm now ultra selective. At least the quality DID come back to what it was in 2009. And even then...
I wonder when Hasbro will go full Takara-on-MP and make deluxes cost 50$, voyagers 80$, and leaders 200$?
The TF price inflation is getting out of hand to be perfectly honest.

[Nemesis Maximo]

Oh God, he’s so tiny. Barely bigger than a Voyager.

He looks good, don’t get me wrong, just short. I think I’ll be okay keeping my CW Magnus on my shelf.

Hasbro and takara are basing it off the official scale guide used back in the original cartoon. Leader class isn’t about height this time around. It’s giving you the closest accurately scaled figures and adding stuff like the Magnus armor and shockwaves battle upgrade. Just like how the legends class has been replaced with micromasters.

Right on. I’m okay with downsizing on most figures, as it gives my Transformers shelves a varied, natural look with individual characters being taller/smaller than others. When I have T30 Skids next to Universe 2.0 Prowl, I think it just adds character, the same way as Wolverine being shorter than everyone else. And in fact, because of the size of Leaders now, I’m 100% gonna pick up Shockwave, and if the Leader Class Optimus does indeed resemble Galaxy Convoy, I’ll get him too. But CW Magnus scales nicely with my OG Classics Optimus, so I don’t feel too bad.

[Randomhero]

I don't have an issue with Magnus and Shockwave being small for the sake of scale. It makes for a great display piece. My issue is the question of whether this is $50 worth of toy. Are we getting a similar value for our dollar? If they want to shrink down their toys, fine. Just reduce the price accordingly.

Again. Stop comparing them to previous leader class figures. That’s not this line. Are they voyager size? Yes. Is that the only thing coming in the package? No. You’re getting a weaponizers gimmick as well. Magnus comes with his armor with parts that can work with others and so is Shockwave. Shockwave comes with his own complete weaponizer stuff that is completely interchangeable with everyone else in this line and can be turned into a hover craft as well.

That’s the leader class gimmick. If you’re not happy with it and choose to ignore that aspect that’s your fault and problem not the toy or company’s

Your hostility is misplaced. I am not complaining about the gimmick; I like the gimmick. I'm not complaining about the height; they scale better than old leaders. I am simply stating that I am suspicious that if you factor in the pros and cons of the new approach, it doesn't add up to something that should cost 50 bucks. I could very well be wrong. I don't know the ins and outs of toy design. But, at a surface level, the price tag seems superfluous.

Are you counting in the fact that 1. Part count is higher. 2 paint applications are higher. 3 weight.

All three of those are higher than the stand leader classes of previous lines.

[mordhelm]

That apply to current deluxes and voyagers as well. It piss me off to have to pay VOYAGER prices for deluxes and ULTRA prices for voyagers. At least the overall quality went back to the same as when I first started to collect in 2009.

This damper my collecting by a lot and I'm now ultra selective. At least the quality DID come back to what it was in 2009. And even then...
I wonder when Hasbro will go full Takara-on-MP and make deluxes cost 50$, voyagers 80$, and leaders 200$?
The TF price inflation is getting out of hand to be perfectly honest.

We tend to think about this things in terms of historical pricing within our small bubble (TF CHUG lines). Once you broaden the scope, you will see that TF lines somehow staved off the price increase for a long time. What other mass collector lines are there:

Star Wars Black Series. The 6" figures are $20 each.

Marvel Legends. $20 MSRP.

Voltron Lions. $20.

DC Multiverse figures. $18.

Power Rangers Legacy figures. $20.

This is just coming in line with every other mass collector line. Similar scales, similar articulation, but none of these have the play factor of transformers toys. As compared to these other lines I still find Siege to be a good value. I am actually pretty disappointed with the Voltron toys the most.

That said, I got my figures for cheap anyway (HTS and a target coupon I had), so maybe my tune will change when I am paying full retail.

[ThunderThruster]

Galvatron: Hasbro, give me this Magnus!

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