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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Or maybe, crazy as it sounds, Hasbro could revive one of the Forgotten Combiner Teams and not just keep redoing the same half a dozen? Like Raiden, Monstructor, Piranacon and/or Dinoking perhaps? Alternatively they could just keep making mish-mashes like Galvatronus...
That term didn't exist back then. In fact, it's always been unofficial, coined by the fandom. It's only been in recent years that the four were given the official name "Titan" for their group, no doubt inspired but the toy size class.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:How can they be a set when the originals hardly even went together? Metroplex and Trypticon were built like they were from two completely different toylines, while Fort Max was almost twice as large as Scorponok and even larger than the first two.
Yes, but they all came under the umbrella title of City Bot.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I really don't understand the mystery of Raiden's omission? It was there at the beginning with Devastator as the first wave of the Gestalts, yet only Devastator progressed beyond the 80's
o.supreme wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I really don't understand the mystery of Raiden's omission? It was there at the beginning with Devastator as the first wave of the Gestalts, yet only Devastator progressed beyond the 80's
Personally I think Raiden is amazing. However Hasbro chose not to import the original Diaclone train robo toys as Transformers mostly because they figured US kids would not be as familiar with, or interested in a team of Bullet Trains, when no such transportation system exists in North America even now, let alone 35 years ago. Although it's Japanese roots is fully embraced now, I think initially Hasbro wanted to avoid any connection to it, as if the cleverness and ingenuity of the product was all their own. Unless like myself, you lived in areas (Like San Francisco) where you had access to toys from Asia, and the connection was obvious from the beginning
ZeroWolf wrote:Raiden never went further then Japan really, only reason fans know of him is the Internet
ZeroWolf wrote:Raiden never went further then Japan really, only reason fans know of him is the Internet
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I get that and clearly Trypticon and Scorponok are very different molds to their counterparts. But they should have been able to gauge interest in them from the success of Metroplex, let alone Fort Max too. The fact that those too were (clearly) a financial success should have made it apparent to Hasbro that the fans wanted all four of them IE A completed set.
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No, you don't get it. The success of Metroplex, Devastator, and Fort Max (who is a Metroplex retool, hence why we got him 2nd out of the citybots) made it apparent that Titan-class figures were viable, yes. But it doesn't make it clear how much the fans wanted who next. General sales data can't really make that kind of prediction.
No, I understood, you just missed the point from earlier. They are sets. The City Bots are a set of Four. Metroplex was a success, making however much. Metroplex, a retool, made an equivalent or greater amount. If they really wanted to Scorponok (and/or Omega Supreme) too could have been just another [extensive] retool of that mold. Realistically Trypticon is the odd one out in that respect. Given it is a set of four, as there were only two left at the time, it's not rocket science. Either way, you simply release the next Figure in the set.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. Yet JRX did exist in 2000, via Car Robots. Who again was an oddity that only appeared once. Including Astrotrain, that is 10 Train Bots that exist within Transformers and only one of them is recognised by Hasbro or Takara at all.![]()
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o.supreme wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. Yet JRX did exist in 2000, via Car Robots. Who again was an oddity that only appeared once. Including Astrotrain, that is 10 Train Bots that exist within Transformers and only one of them is recognised by Hasbro or Takara at all.![]()
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There are actually more:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sixtrain
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sixliner
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Rail_Racer_(Universe)
also just because they don't have a modern release, doesn't mean they aren't recognized.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Surely you didn't expect him to be as big as the USS Enterprise?Ironhidensh wrote:Oh my god...
Magnus is even smaller than I thought.![]()
carytheone wrote:Surely you didn't expect him to be as big as the USS Enterprise?Ironhidensh wrote:Oh my god...
Magnus is even smaller than I thought.![]()
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:o.supreme wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. Yet JRX did exist in 2000, via Car Robots. Who again was an oddity that only appeared once. Including Astrotrain, that is 10 Train Bots that exist within Transformers and only one of them is recognised by Hasbro or Takara at all.![]()
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There are actually more:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sixtrain
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sixliner
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Rail_Racer_(Universe)
also just because they don't have a modern release, doesn't mean they aren't recognized.
Not forgetting Hearts of Steel too, of course. Yet if they don't have a modern release and don't feature in a cartoon, Movie, video game or comic book, how are they recognised?
SIEGE is the perfect platform (no pun intended) to revive the Trainbots. All 13+ of them. As Scioli did in Transformers vs. GI Joe with "The Astrotrain", make them all part of the Cybertronian rail system. From Astrotrain to Rail Racer.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:o.supreme wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. Yet JRX did exist in 2000, via Car Robots. Who again was an oddity that only appeared once. Including Astrotrain, that is 10 Train Bots that exist within Transformers and only one of them is recognised by Hasbro or Takara at all.![]()
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There are actually more:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sixtrain
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sixliner
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Rail_Racer_(Universe)
also just because they don't have a modern release, doesn't mean they aren't recognized.
Not forgetting Hearts of Steel too, of course. Yet if they don't have a modern release and don't feature in a cartoon, Movie, video game or comic book, how are they recognised?
SIEGE is the perfect platform (no pun intended) to revive the Trainbots. All 13+ of them. As Scioli did in Transformers vs. GI Joe with "The Astrotrain", make them all part of the Cybertronian rail system. From Astrotrain to Rail Racer.
How is Siege the perfect platform to do Trainbots? Jon Warden is hard pressed to do a reference to anything that isn’t super Geewun; we’re all super excited at the mere possibility that a future Leader Class Optimus Prime will be styled after Galaxy Convoy, and that’s a definite maybe. But you expect the TF Design Team to do Trainbots?
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Mindmaster wrote:Hopefully I’ll find these when I deploy to Korea in less than a month...
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Nice review, Wolfman. He might be small, he may be a glorified Voyager and he may not be exactly worth $50, but God damn... I have needed this Shockwave in my life for so long. I hope to find him this week.
If you don't want him I'll gladly take him off your hands.
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, plz!Wolfman wrote:...Leader Shockwave next.And could you take a couple of shots of Megatron and Shockwave without his extra stuff side by side? They should be the same size, right?
You are not gonna like the answer. Shockwave is smaller than megatron and only becomes as tall when you add the armour bits.
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