The Energon Pub

[Skritz]

so i take it that the micromasters come in two packs does it mean we will see the other half of those teams later

Hah knowing Hasbro there's an equal chance we won't!

Edit: Or we will, but in an exclusive most people won't be able to purchase. Like the Prime Masters.

[Flashwave]

Everything in this line looks awesome. Far better than POTP. I'm most excited for the micromasters and Cog, thank goodness I eventually got a For Max. Speaking of Cog, didn't each vehicle have its own name and the combined robot was Cog?

Wallace Gasket and Grommet

[Rodimus Prime]

Yes, that Magnus is definitely the cream of this crop. I will probably pass on the rest.

I'm still holding out hope that Hasbro has corrected their glaring oversight of no Skywarp and Thundercracker, and we'll finally get them from the deluxe Ghost Starscream mold.

[Ultra Markus]

Everything in this line looks awesome. Far better than POTP. I'm most excited for the micromasters and Cog, thank goodness I eventually got a For Max. Speaking of Cog, didn't each vehicle have its own name and the combined robot was Cog?

Wallace Gasket and Grommet

[Emerje]

Everything in this line looks awesome. Far better than POTP. I'm most excited for the micromasters and Cog, thank goodness I eventually got a For Max. Speaking of Cog, didn't each vehicle have its own name and the combined robot was Cog?

Wallace Gasket and Grommet

And it looks like they still can, there's a clear division between the two halves and fake wheels in front of the treads on the rear half that forms the legs.



He breaks into a lot of little pieces, even just to change into his vehicle modes so he definitely can split up. Plus there's this picture where Sideswipe is wearing COG as armor.



The torso is a shield, his lower legs are being used like boots, and his upper legs and mid section connected to his back with the arms attached as guns over his shoulders. That's a lot of 5mm holes, I'm really looking forward to Sixgun now.

Oh, and I like what they're doing with the effect parts. Not so much the muzzle flashes, but the part that comes with Lionizer also being used on Sideswipe as exhaust flames.



Emerje

[Lore Keeper]

I love pretty much everything about this line! The only negative thing it does is confirm that Power of the Primes is being well and truly cut off when this starts. I had hoped beyond hope that we could complete another combiner or two, maybe get the remaining Prime Masters with Pretender shells. Oh well. Here's hoping for some more combiners down the road (looking at you, Piranacon and Monstructor).

[Sabrblade]

Good grief, is Hasbro trying to out-greeble Third Party now? All that excessive molded-in detail on Chromia and Magnus makes them look as shriveled up as prunes and raisins.

[Emerje]

If there's one thing I don't like about this line, it's Ultra Magnus' front wheels. Too far forward and too large of a gap behind them.




Otherwise it's all good. And with the amount of partsforming they're trying to acclimate us to it seems like the perfect line for Omega Supreme.

Emerje

[DecepticonFinishline]

And that's coming from someone that would prefer Transformers don't come with weapons. Those firing effects are going DIRECTLY into a ziplock bag.

Weapons in general or weapons that shoot stuff that's easily lost/choked on?

Just in general. Unless they become part of the alt-mode, I just find them to be more of a nuisance than anything. Or some stupid gun sticking out of a car.

[Adimus Prime]

Is COG the Apex Armor?

I think this Magnus will be retooled into something like a Powermaster Prime that will combine with COG.

I'm actually pleased with all of these. Good job, Hasbro.

[Cobotron]

And with the amount of partsforming they're trying to acclimate us to it seems like the perfect line for Omega Supreme.

Emerje

I was just going to comment that there is an awful lot of parts forming going on.

Personally, that's never been a problem for me, but it ranks high on the fan complaints list.
Right up there with backpacks!

Edit: And Emerje, you make a great point about Omega Supreme.

[Sabrblade]

Is COG the Apex Armor?

Nope. He's Cog who can split into Gasket and Grommet and split even further into weapons and armor pieces that can be used by just about anybody in this line, hence his being a Weaponizer.

[Burn]

And that's coming from someone that would prefer Transformers don't come with weapons. Those firing effects are going DIRECTLY into a ziplock bag.

Weapons in general or weapons that shoot stuff that's easily lost/choked on?

Just in general. Unless they become part of the alt-mode, I just find them to be more of a nuisance than anything. Or some stupid gun sticking out of a car.

Interesting. I completely disagree with you, primarily because they're alien robots who have been fighting a war for millions of years, so to me they're expected to have weapons.

I'm not a fan of them being incorporated into the alt mode as more often than not it doesn't really work.

But hey, you are the first person to say that about weapons so I had to inquire.

[Ultra Markus]

Is COG the Apex Armor?

Nope. He's Cog who can split into Gasket and Grommet and split even further into weapons and armor pieces that can be used by just about anybody in this line, hence his being a Weaponizer.

heres a thought since we have this Cog and being able to split and form weapons and armor for other characters, what are the chances of them doing Slammer and Sixgun for the same thing

[Sabrblade]

Is COG the Apex Armor?

Nope. He's Cog who can split into Gasket and Grommet and split even further into weapons and armor pieces that can be used by just about anybody in this line, hence his being a Weaponizer.

heres a thought since we have this Cog and being able to split and form weapons and armor for other characters, what are the chances of them doing Slammer and Sixgun for the same thing

Six-Gun was part of the same rumors that mentioned Cog before the officiall SDCC reveal, so he's likely coming. No Slammer, Brunt, or Fasttrack listed in those rumors, though

[Rodimus Prime]

If there's one thing I don't like about this line, it's Ultra Magnus' front wheels. Too far forward and too large of a gap behind them.

I just noticed that. While it's a bit of an eyesore, it's a small price to pay for a pretty good figure otherwise. And maybe there's a reason for the wheels being so far up. Maybe it was necessary to accommodate a possible combination with a future Optimus figure for a new Omega Prime. I would say it might be a slight mistransformation, but the stock photos have them the same way. So we'll see.

[The_Cryptid_Person]

^My thoughts on this line.

Character-wise, I'm hyped for Cog and Ironhide, but everything else feels like a dead-end. Cog looks immensely fun, and I actually like the blocky look/alt-mode on Ironhide. But, yeah, that dead end... I have no attachment to the micromasters and doubt they'll release all the targetmasters needed to "complete" my TR figures. Especially with a slot already all-but wasted on an action master partner... I'll probably try at least one micromaster pair for sheer novelty. Who knows, maybe I'll start snapping them up for customs or scale play with Titans?

Optimus and the inner magnus look surprisingly nice, and I would get them if I didn't already have an even better Optimus and a classics Magnus. Much as I like the self-combining feature, I can't justify spending $50 on a replacement figure that is so inelegant and (to me) unappealing when compared with the CW one. I'm passing on almost every PotP leader, so clearly self-combining isn't essential for my collection.

The new visual direction is... interesting. It's like Beast Machines Megatron took over the design team. Chromia looks like some sort of spongy organ in vehicle mode, but is obviously trying to be as robotic as possible. I guess it's like bayformers, where there is so much small detail that larger design elements can get swallowed up... At least the "gritty" paint apps will make my early customs fit in The effect parts are pretty neat, but I'll never buy enough battle masters to use them well - especially if they only make 8 of them or something. Oh well?

Regarding the leaks for future figures, Six-Gun is a must-buy. I hope the deluxe-priced Prowl, Drift, Crankcase, and Barricade are for Siege, but highly doubt it. Crankcase from Hound, anyone? Zero interest in a leader Shockwave, sincerely hope that he and Jetfire are for Cyberverse and we have more slots open for more interesting characters, but again I highly doubt it. One of these days Hasbro has to get around to Star Saber and Deathsaurus, but it probably isn't today. The new springer (no way cyberverse has the budget for a real triple changer, or the guts to portray spinger as anything but) would have to be literally magic in plastic form to surpass the last one, and with the "everything and everyone is a cube" thing they have going on here, I don't see that happening. Also just realized Impactor could be a straight redeco of Ironhide. Hope that doesn't happen, but it would be quite a twist.

Despite all my gripes, some of these figures look stellar. Optimus looks great (awesome blend of toy and cartoon influences on the torso), Ironhide will be great to have, and the weaponizer Cog looks like buckets of fun.

[Ultra Markus]

Holy ****! This is Dopesauce!

Well, there gores my ability to resist this line.

i like how they paid homage to the original Robots in Disguise(Car Robots)version

[Skritz]

People mention 'parts-forming' but I think the term is applied a bit too widely. The Deluxe and Voyagers, for example, still form a complete vehicle and robot even if you were to lose the weapon. Sure it would, perhaps, look a bit fugly in some case or at least empty but it's still functional.

Cog and Magnus still have a functional figure in there if you lose parts, as Cog seem like he can transform to his own altmode without having to be pulled apart and only gets pulled to pieces when he 'combine' with someone else. Magnus, meanwhile, still has a full cab robot if you were to lose the trailer.

[Emerje]

Cog and Magnus still have a functional figure in there if you lose parts, as Cog seem like he can transform to his own altmode without having to be pulled apart and only gets pulled to pieces when he 'combine' with someone else. Magnus, meanwhile, still has a full cab robot if you were to lose the trailer.

Take another look, you have to pull off Cog's arms and stick them back on to his chest to transform him.



Emerje

[The_Cryptid_Person]

People mention 'parts-forming' but I think the term is applied a bit too widely. The Deluxe and Voyagers, for example, still form a complete vehicle and robot even if you were to lose the weapon. Sure it would, perhaps, look a bit fugly in some case or at least empty but it's still functional.

Cog and Magnus still have a functional figure in there if you lose parts, as Cog seem like he can transform to his own altmode without having to be pulled apart and only gets pulled to pieces when he 'combine' with someone else. Magnus, meanwhile, still has a full cab robot if you were to lose the trailer.

While you're definitely right about Magnus, Cog is a "partsformer" all the way. You have to pop his arms out of the 5mm holes on his shoulders and into the ones on his robot mode chest to transform him. Actually, that seems like 50% of his transformation

Edit: I think this is called ninja'd

[Skritz]

Oh. I thought those were just 'extra' 5mm ports.

[chuckdawg1999]

Is COG the Apex Armor?

Nope. He's Cog who can split into Gasket and Grommet and split even further into weapons and armor pieces that can be used by just about anybody in this line, hence his being a Weaponizer.

heres a thought since we have this Cog and being able to split and form weapons and armor for other characters, what are the chances of them doing Slammer and Sixgun for the same thing

Six-Gun was part of the same rumors that mentioned Cog before the officiall SDCC reveal, so he's likely coming. No Slammer, Brunt, or Fasttrack listed in those rumors, though

I hope they don't do Six Gun. We're almost 4 years removed from Metroplex and I feel Six Gun was a figure it should've come with.

[Emerje]

Edit: I think this is called ninja'd

Sabrblade did it to me in the PotP thread a little while ago, you'll get your chance soon enough.

Emerje

[Skritz]

Is COG the Apex Armor?

No but I sort of want a new version of Godbomber/Apex Bomber as a Weaponizer so we can attach him to everyone!