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[o.supreme]

My closest Walmart has not carried any leader class for any line in well over a year. But for some odd reason/good timing, they got Two cases of wave 1 Siege, and one case of wave 2 which resulted in Three Shockwaves, Two UM, and One Galaxy Prime, all on the shelf at the same time. I moved the Prime into 3rd position on the shelf, so anybody who wanted him would have to do a bit of digging, but not too hard. I'm sure next time I go there, at least half of those leaders will be gone.

[Nathaniel Prime]

My closest Walmart has not carried any leader class for any line in well over a year. But for some odd reason/good timing, they got Two cases of wave 1 Siege, and one case of wave 2 which resulted in Three Shockwaves, Two UM, and One Galaxy Prime, all on the shelf at the same time. I moved the Prime into 3rd position on the shelf, so anybody who wanted him would have to do a bit of digging, but not too hard. I'm sure next time I go there, at least half of those leaders will be gone.

Your confidence in that there will be any left is too ambitious

[o.supreme]

My closest Walmart has not carried any leader class for any line in well over a year. But for some odd reason/good timing, they got Two cases of wave 1 Siege, and one case of wave 2 which resulted in Three Shockwaves, Two UM, and One Galaxy Prime, all on the shelf at the same time. I moved the Prime into 3rd position on the shelf, so anybody who wanted him would have to do a bit of digging, but not too hard. I'm sure next time I go there, at least half of those leaders will be gone.

Your confidence in that there will be any left is too ambitious

I wouldn't be surprised, but another Walmart further out from me has had them for a while (Just Shockwave & UM). Of course, those have anti-theft devices affixed to them as well.

[Skritz]

Can't say I'm a fan of that Thundercracker color scheme (a bit too bright and teal) but...meh he's still going to end up in my collection, isn't he?

[The_Cryptid_Person]

Anyone else feel like they're going to re-release these characters either with less battle damage, less greebling, or more earthly alt-forms every couple of years, just so we all buy them again? At the very least, I foresee more redecoes like Special Edition Prime and Megs. Things like a red-eyed Soundwave, maybe a Shockwave with trans-purple hands and a brighter general hue. But there will always be *something* keeping them from being "perfect" like RtS Jazz was. Even masterpiece isn't immune to this with all the + edition redecoes.

[Rodimus Prime]

My closest Walmart has not carried any leader class for any line in well over a year. But for some odd reason/good timing, they got Two cases of wave 1 Siege, and one case of wave 2 which resulted in Three Shockwaves, Two UM, and One Galaxy Prime, all on the shelf at the same time. I moved the Prime into 3rd position on the shelf, so anybody who wanted him would have to do a bit of digging, but not too hard. I'm sure next time I go there, at least half of those leaders will be gone.

Some may consider this a dick move, but if I ever come across a figure I want really bad, but for some reason can't get it right then, I take it to another aisle and hide it behind some bigger stuff, usually on the bottom shelf. Hasn't failed me yet.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So I finally got tired of waiting for Laserbeak and Ravage to show up in stores and ordered them off Hasbro Pulse yesterday. They arrive tomorrow, which means of course I saw them in stores today.

Wow, they are tiny. WAY too tiny for my liking.

Is anyone else just going to end up using the TR cassettes/tablets with Siege Soundwave? As imperfect as the TR versions are, size-wise they are much better than the itty bitties in Siege for me.

I should be getting mine tomorrow, but if they are tiny, that might work with my Leader Bumblebee movie version of TR Soundwave. I had hoped to fit a bunch of tiny Micro-cassettes into his chest so he can hold multiples at once. And I have some of the TR cassettes too, so no big disaster

[Microbot]

Thanks for the replies. And if the Galaxy Prime will be a retool/repaint for Solo Prime/nemesis will be great and a good reason to buy it...actually I really don't like this figure. Any hope for bumblebee or other cybertronians, like Kup or Arcee maybe? I really like this line, it's awesome! Maybe the Dinobots too...will be cool!

I'm keeping all the candidates from the last fan vote in the back of my head. We have a new Omega Supreme a new Hound - I'm silently pining for a new Arcee (that doesn't share the Chromia mold), a Deathsaurus, and after we got Overlord finally, I would love to see Hasbro have a go at a leader Star Saber...and like good guy Victory Saber not wackadoo religious zealot IDW Saber...brrr, that guy was creepy.

Kup and the Dinobots though, man, we had them so recently as much as I'd love to see them through the Siege prism I think it'll be a while. A Kup where I don't have to paint the forearms would be rad.

IF they will make a new Arcee I hope they DON'T use Chromia mold in any way...I really hate her shape, like I don't like and don't buy the Galaxy one. Just a repaint into a Solo or black prime maybe will convince me to buy it.

For Bumblebee I really hope they give us a new one...with the movie success, and how much this guy is love by fans, I really hope they made a Siege one too.

More different planets...hmm...Ok, will be interesting.


For now, I'm focused on getting next Thundercracker, Spring, Barricade, Reflektor, Mirage and Smookescreen....next Jetfire!

And I see the powers of the prime: Dinobots - just really don't like them... I'm a big fan of Dinobot and I want them made really great like the planet X version for examples

[Stargrave]

My closest Walmart has not carried any leader class for any line in well over a year. But for some odd reason/good timing, they got Two cases of wave 1 Siege, and one case of wave 2 which resulted in Three Shockwaves, Two UM, and One Galaxy Prime, all on the shelf at the same time. I moved the Prime into 3rd position on the shelf, so anybody who wanted him would have to do a bit of digging, but not too hard. I'm sure next time I go there, at least half of those leaders will be gone.

Some may consider this a dick move, but if I ever come across a figure I want really bad, but for some reason can't get it right then, I take it to another aisle and hide it behind some bigger stuff, usually on the bottom shelf. Hasn't failed me yet.

That's not a dick move - a dick move is buying something and returning it with something different, that's a dick move. What you describe? That's survival in the collector jungle my friend.

[Microbot]

Oh and I wait for a Blaster here at some point too

[Stargrave]

At $20.00+ a pop is anyone really going to get three Refraktors? Ideally I'd love it sure but eh, I think I'll be cool getting one just to check it out. Man if only there was like one with a smirking face how they did with Thundercracker or just an extra stripe of paint or something on another to distinguish them into three characters.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

At $20.00+ a pop is anyone really going to get three Refraktors? Ideally I'd love it sure but eh, I think I'll be cool getting one just to check it out. Man if only there was like one with a smirking face how they did with Thundercracker or just an extra stripe of paint or something on another to distinguish them into three characters.

Getting just 3 Refraktors is nothing compared what some people have done when it comes to army building. Personally, I'm getting 3 just for the camera mode, as my dad was a photographer.

[blackeyedprime]

I'm likely just getting the one refraktor and see how the figure size compares/if it's too big for my liking at deluxe size.

I'm thinking thrilling 30 springer could be retooled into cybertron megs and the copter mode could be a nod to animated with two rotors. Not sure if the size would work out or if it would need to be enlarged and it wouldn't fit leader figures just being voyagers with extra kibble/armor for the most part.

[ZeroWolf]

With regards to Bumblebee in Siege, I doubt it, remember Siege ends in December.

That said, I completely expect to see Bee in the next part of the War for Cybertron trilogy. Though I think at SDCC maybe when we learn what the second part is called

[sol magnus]

My closest Walmart has not carried any leader class for any line in well over a year. But for some odd reason/good timing, they got Two cases of wave 1 Siege, and one case of wave 2 which resulted in Three Shockwaves, Two UM, and One Galaxy Prime, all on the shelf at the same time. I moved the Prime into 3rd position on the shelf, so anybody who wanted him would have to do a bit of digging, but not too hard. I'm sure next time I go there, at least half of those leaders will be gone.

Some may consider this a dick move, but if I ever come across a figure I want really bad, but for some reason can't get it right then, I take it to another aisle and hide it behind some bigger stuff, usually on the bottom shelf. Hasn't failed me yet.

That's not a dick move - a dick move is buying something and returning it with something different, that's a dick move. What you describe? That's survival in the collector jungle my friend.

I had my Shockwave hidden for a week in a kiddie car up on the rack. It's not the holiday, so it's pretty safe. I do feel weird doing it, but hey, if you don't have the money right then, you're not stealing it. Just reserving it for a future purchase.

What I can't stand is when somebody returns a figure and it's a different figure than the one the box says, or it's like two series ago and you know they just exchanged them for the new hotness. That's lame.

[o.supreme]

My closest Walmart has not carried any leader class for any line in well over a year. But for some odd reason/good timing, they got Two cases of wave 1 Siege, and one case of wave 2 which resulted in Three Shockwaves, Two UM, and One Galaxy Prime, all on the shelf at the same time. I moved the Prime into 3rd position on the shelf, so anybody who wanted him would have to do a bit of digging, but not too hard. I'm sure next time I go there, at least half of those leaders will be gone.

Some may consider this a dick move, but if I ever come across a figure I want really bad, but for some reason can't get it right then, I take it to another aisle and hide it behind some bigger stuff, usually on the bottom shelf. Hasn't failed me yet.

I dont harbor any negativity towards things like that, I don't do it myself, because usually there hasn't been anything at retail significant enough, or pricey enough I usually cant buy on site, especially since I only collect select items from each line, and haven't got the leaders for the last 2 lines, though I do like looking at them. I wont be seeing Jetfire or Omega Supreme at retail, so saving up for them to purchase online is pretty much at my discretion.

I will say though, since I do notoriously clean up each stores TF section, I'm sure I've probably uncovered a few hidden items by other collectors. I mean I dont go down other aisles looking for them, but if I see a hot or rare item obviously stashed just a few feet away, I'm probably going to put it where it belongs.

[Skritz]

Anyone else feel like they're going to re-release these characters either with less battle damage, less greebling, or more earthly alt-forms every couple of years, just so we all buy them again? At the very least, I foresee more redecoes like Special Edition Prime and Megs. Things like a red-eyed Soundwave, maybe a Shockwave with trans-purple hands and a brighter general hue. But there will always be *something* keeping them from being "perfect" like RtS Jazz was. Even masterpiece isn't immune to this with all the + edition redecoes.

It depend where they want to go after the War for Cybertron trilogy. These aren't completely whacked out Cybertronian modes (I've called them retro-futuristic, as in what the '80 imagined futuristic vehicles would look like) and the robot modes are spot on to the cartoon models or as much as they can be for a non-masterpiece. Some of these figures do look like an Earth-based retool is possible (Voyager Prime and Megatron) while others don't really seem like they got the right engineer (Siege Seekers).

If the next trilogy is earth-based I could see it but I also think it has a heavy risk of misfiring on Hasbro/Takara. Sure, every line has an Optimus Prime (and most have at least one of these: Megatron, Starscream or Bumblebee) but if all they do is release an '80 toon-pandering Voyager or Leader Optimus its going to be diminishing return. They can totally retool Siege Voyager Optimus with an Earth Mode and market it as THE DEFINITIVE CHUG OPTIMUS...but then what? Its more financially sound to do something different, like homaging/remake other Optimus design such as Powermaster or Laser Rod (as they did in Titans Return) ro do an Optimus who fit the line gimmick (CW and POTP Optimus). What I mean is the 'trick' is one who will have heavily diminishing returns.

Honestly given that Siege is smaller than CW/TR (and that smaller lines are the base now) there is a good chance there might be juuuust enough early G1 guys for the next trilogy.

[Microbot]

Thanks for the replies. And if the Galaxy Prime will be a retool/repaint for Solo Prime/nemesis will be great and a good reason to buy it...actually I really don't like this figure. Any hope for bumblebee or other cybertronians, like Kup or Arcee maybe? I really like this line, it's awesome! Maybe the Dinobots too...will be cool!

I'm keeping all the candidates from the last fan vote in the back of my head. We have a new Omega Supreme a new Hound - I'm silently pining for a new Arcee (that doesn't share the Chromia mold), a Deathsaurus, and after we got Overlord finally, I would love to see Hasbro have a go at a leader Star Saber...and like good guy Victory Saber not wackadoo religious zealot IDW Saber...brrr, that guy was creepy.

Kup and the Dinobots though, man, we had them so recently as much as I'd love to see them through the Siege prism I think it'll be a while. A Kup where I don't have to paint the forearms would be rad.

A new Arcee will be great...but no like Chromia...PLEASE...I HATE this molds....we get Ultra Magnus, Spinger for now...so really hope to have a new and better Arcee. Maybe not into Siege but into this line...I really like these models and after loooooong time back me to buy again Transformers. I'm an old fan, have like the 1st convoy in blue. But for long time I don't buy them because simply don't like the models. But Siege line really impress me and get me back. So I hope to get all TF I like most. Liek Dinobots and characters like Blurr ( I knwo he is into power of the prime...I search him, but I don't like so much) - So I really hope WAR FOR CYBERTRON giive us great models like the Siege Line! It's a rylogy right? So all the 3 Acts will have the same idea (robots styles and gimmick) If I undersand right?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

My Pteraxadon, Aimless, and wave 2 Micros came in. My Aimless is really loose and kinda boring. Pteraxadon is fantastic and will probably end up with Prowl.

Laserbeak is cool, but Ravage is a bit dinky. Red Heat is ok.

But Stakeout, that is my boy!! I was really looking forward to him, and he is not disappointing! Love him

[TF-fan kev777]

My Pteraxadon, Aimless, and wave 2 Micros came in. My Aimless is really loose and kinda boring. Pteraxadon is fantastic and will probably end up with Prowl.

Laserbeak is cool, but Ravage is a bit dinky. Red Heat is ok.

But Stakeout, that is my boy!! I was really looking forward to him, and he is not disappointing! Love him

I finally found Red Heat and Stakeout on Monday and got Laserbeak and Ravage from Hasbro Pulse today. I'm pretty much right there with you on all of them. Siege ravage is like if TR Ravage and TR Howlback had a kitten. WAY too tiny.

[Stargrave]

The blues go together pretty good. I'm digging Magnus' gauntlets on Prime.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

My Pteraxadon, Aimless, and wave 2 Micros came in. My Aimless is really loose and kinda boring. Pteraxadon is fantastic and will probably end up with Prowl.

Laserbeak is cool, but Ravage is a bit dinky. Red Heat is ok.

But Stakeout, that is my boy!! I was really looking forward to him, and he is not disappointing! Love him

I finally found Red Heat and Stakeout on Monday and got Laserbeak and Ravage from Hasbro Pulse today. I'm pretty much right there with you on all of them. Siege ravage is like if TR Ravage and TR Howlback had a kitten. WAY too tiny.

Yeah, Ravage is pretty weak. but I'm super happy with Laserbeak, so that set isn't a total disappointment.

Stakeout is great. He is my favorite Micromaster so far

[Stargrave]

These look so neat!

[Wolfman Jake]

These look so neat!

00Stargrave00, where did you find that pic? I think that may be our first in-package shot of these Micromasters. I want to news this, ASAP!

[Stargrave]

Oh shoot I was tooling around on line I think I may have seen it over on TFW2005? It linked through a Facebook account alas I don't have Facebook so I looked for the image.

Hey...is it ok that I did that? I'm newer to posting but a long time fan of the site I totally don't want to dent any bumpers know what I mean?

Just let me know, and if it is ok and I see any postings elsewhere in the future is it ok to do so again?