The Energon Pub

[ZeroWolf]

OK I'm confused now. Hasbro moved to the one line a year idea with Siege hitting at the end of last year...which is when these are supposed to hit. So the last wave of Siege? Or are these the first reveals of the post Siege line? Given how potp went, I assumed that the next part of the trilogy would hit in December

[Evil Eye]

Astrotrain is an absolute must for me. That train mode, that surprisingly good shuttle mode, hell to the yeah!

Apeface doesn't particularly interest me but he still looks cool.

Spinister looks great and will be a fantastic Decepticon grunt.

Crosshairs is cool and all but I don't think I'd get him over Ironhide. Though a Crosshairs being a retool of Ironhide, after Energon Ironhide had Crosshairs' colours, is an interesting roundabout homage.

[Nathaniel Prime]

Astrotrain looks kinda... iffy. Love that bot mode, but his vehicle modes look awkward. Maybe actual pictures will change my mind?

Crosshairs was a bot I literally just was thinking, "I wonder if HasTak will ever make a Generations Crosshairs?" He may just be an Ironhide retool as opposed to a new mold, but he looks great regardless.

Apeface is to die for. Look how perfect that beast mode is! Robot mode is great and jet mode is pretty cool!

Spinister. What a perfect looking bot. And what magic was pulled off to give him 2 different cockpits on his legs?

Loving all of this, and it shows just how much HasTak loves the fans (and their money!)

Edit: just noticed the headmaster on Apeface's head!

[o.supreme]

great reveals, no doubt, but the news has me a little confused....Spinister was part of the fan poll (which a winner is not supposed to be announced until sometime in July...but I guess we know who the winner is... ) also, that fan poll was for a 2020 release, these all say 12/01/19.

So...are these late entries in the Siege line, or early ones for the 2020 *Armageddon* line?

OK I'm confused now. Hasbro moved to the one line a year idea with Siege hitting at the end of last year...which is when these are supposed to hit. So the last wave of Siege? Or are these the first reveals of the post Siege line? Given how potp went, I assumed that the next part of the trilogy would hit in December

great minds think alike

[AcademyofDrX]

I suspect these figures are for the next line. The Screenrant feature says that Siege is the current line, but only says these figures are part of "War for Cybertron." SR gets the toy reveal, but Hasbro is still holding onto the product line branding reveal until later.

[CircuitBreaker]

Whelp, anyone wanna trade TR astrotrain for sentinel prime?
These guys look awesome. I’ll probably pass on crosshairs just because after ratchet I’ll already have two of that mould.

[Autobot N]

great reveals, no doubt, but the news has me a little confused....Spinister was part of the fan poll (which a winner is not supposed to be announced until sometime in July...but I guess we know who the winner is... ) also, that fan poll was for a 2020 release, these all say 12/01/19.

So...are these late entries in the Siege line, or early ones for the 2020 *Armageddon* line?

Wrong poll. Spinister was in the one for Siege (which Impactor won). Needlenose is the one from the 2020 poll.

[o.supreme]

^So maybe this should all get moved to the 2020 line thread?

[AcademyofDrX]

Also I feel bad for all the TR Astrotrains that are destined for the waste bin of history. And also the literal waste bin. I wish his grey was darker, but I'll hold off my worry until we see production figures in the flesh.

[william-james88]

Ok, i am legit curious about spinister's transformation, because his leg don't seem to be your usual "split the cockpit", but only one of his leg actually becomes cockpit, so where does the other "cockpit leg" goes?

It goes in the back, covered by his arms on the side. It's a very nice transformation/design trick where one of the alt mode components is real while the other fake to give the bot mode symmetry. We've been seeing lots of that lately, especially in the legs. Here are some other examples.

Also, the Spinister reveal seems like a confirmation of the theory that the fan votes determine which figures we get first, rather than at all.

I felt that theory was confirmed with Omega Supreme.

Wow!! Astrotrain is great!!!! Love al 3!!!
Just crosshair is a little a delusion...just an Ironhide repaint....

People were asking for a Kup repaint so it was gonne be on or the other, this isnt surprising.

OK I'm confused now. Hasbro moved to the one line a year idea with Siege hitting at the end of last year...which is when these are supposed to hit. So the last wave of Siege? Or are these the first reveals of the post Siege line? Given how potp went, I assumed that the next part of the trilogy would hit in December

This confuses me to no end. I really dont know whats going on with the line right now.

Astrotrain looks kinda... iffy. Love that bot mode, but his vehicle modes look awkward.

I always had an issue with Astrotrain in the fact that his shuttle mode is awkward because the engineering was just not feasable at the time to give him a sleek shuttle mode. So it looked rather squarish instead. And because the animation model copied that look, it became part of the character. I would have liked for us to move on and actually give him a nice and sleek shuttle mode, something we can do now that we couldnt before.

Something like this:

[Autobot N]

^So maybe this should all get moved to the 2020 line thread?

I don’t think so. Some folks on TFW2005 have a list of all of the Siege numbers (I think they got it from the website that you can put the codes into) that had a wave’s worth of unknown numbers. The four figures revealed today filled a few of the missing numbers.

[wolverinetodd]

Wow!! Astrotrain is great!!!! Love al 3!!!
Just crosshair is a little a delusion...just an Ironhide repaint....

So is Siege Ratchet.

I think a lot of fans were expecting Crosshairs to be repainted from the Titans Return Deluxe Class Kup mold. But then Crosshairs would've had a Titan Master for a head and then fans would've wanted Sureshot and Pointblank to be made with Titan Masters for heads as well and Hasbro was already moving towards a new line by then. So in all honesty, this mold is the perfect mold for Crosshairs, being futuristic and Cybertronian, thus opening the door for figures of Sureshot and Pointblank to be released in this WFC trilogy.

[william-james88]

great reveals, no doubt, but the news has me a little confused....Spinister was part of the fan poll (which a winner is not supposed to be announced until sometime in July...but I guess we know who the winner is... )

Wrong fan poll

[ZeroWolf]

great reveals, no doubt, but the news has me a little confused....Spinister was part of the fan poll (which a winner is not supposed to be announced until sometime in July...but I guess we know who the winner is... ) also, that fan poll was for a 2020 release, these all say 12/01/19.

So...are these late entries in the Siege line, or early ones for the 2020 *Armageddon* line?

OK I'm confused now. Hasbro moved to the one line a year idea with Siege hitting at the end of last year...which is when these are supposed to hit. So the last wave of Siege? Or are these the first reveals of the post Siege line? Given how potp went, I assumed that the next part of the trilogy would hit in December

great minds think alike

Hah very true!

Realised I never commented on the figures.

I like Astro Train, nice to have the train alt mode looking like a train (though his TR release was more alien in design. Spinster looks great fun, and I'm keen to see where the faux cockpit goes in alt mode. Ape Face is stunning in all modes and it's nice to see the titan masters again.

Crosshairs is sadly a little boring to me but it's good that he's there for those who want him!

[jruss1975]

I am a very strong YES to Astrotrain, a maybe/possibly to Apeface, and as for the other two... no flippin' way.

[Stargrave]

So much awesomeness!

And Will I don’t think you’re a downer at all I think you make good points. For me the reimagined tetrajet just works and is fun to transform I’m totally going off personal preference. And me and my older brother it was always like he had Skywarp and Sideswipe I had Starscream and Sunstreaker it just takes me back

[william-james88]

So much awesomeness!

And Will I don’t think you’re a downer at all I think you make good points. For me the reimagined tetrajet just works and is fun to transform I’m totally going off personal preference. And me and my older brother it was always like he had Skywarp and Sideswipe I had Starscream and Sunstreaker it just takes me back

While I do take issue with the shape, my criticism here was more with the colours.

[o.supreme]

great reveals, no doubt, but the news has me a little confused....Spinister was part of the fan poll (which a winner is not supposed to be announced until sometime in July...but I guess we know who the winner is... )

Wrong fan poll

Darn...One wonders how you could get Spinister & Needlenose confused...Just showing my lack of knowledge of the 1988 line, even though I have both from the TFCC Thunder Mayhem Squad . Keeping these as late Siege (wave 5?) works for me. The reveals are nice, but makes me more excited for what Hasbro will reveal at SDCC for the 2020 line.

[Bucky]

Whoooh! Exciting! Those are some nice looking Decepticons. Having a leader class Astrotrain will be great, and in my opinion a huge improvement on his TR Voyager toy. Not just in terms of scale, but also aesthetics. I’m immensely excited for Apeface and Spasma, as I’m a huge fan of headmasters, and the Horrorcons in particular. Spinister is a get.

Crosshairs is just a liiiittle disappointing. I wouldn’t have expected that mold to be used for his character. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of the mold, and am definitely going to be picking up Ratchet when he comes out. But that’s mostly because Ratchet is my favorite Autobot. Hands down. It’s just that if they had mentioned that Crosshairs was going to be coming out, that mold isn’t what I would have pictured. Still it’s nice that his character is getting some love.

[WeatherManNX01]

Will I buy Astrotrain again? For a better train mode, heck yeah I will. This is definitely a better overall figure than the Titans Return version, though I might have preferred him to be Voyager sized. I can live with that, though.

The other three all look great, and all will be welcome additions.

[PushYouDown]

Spinister and Apeface are super cool. I like Astrotrain..but probably won't spend 50$ on a figure that I have a decent version of already (I like the TR one just fine).
I nothing Crosshairs.... will probably skip.

These guys are still all under the "Siege" name right? When does the next part of the Trilogy start?
This means we have two more waves coming to retail (counting these figures) under that banner?

[ZeroWolf]

I was under the presumption that the next part of the trilogy would be out end of this year beginning of next... Which is when these are due out...

[william-james88]

I was under the presumption that the next part of the trilogy would be out end of this year beginning of next... Which is when these are due out...

These are due end of this year. Their official release date is still in 2019 while the second part of the trilogy would be in 2020.

[Immortal Starscream]

HOLY HANDGRENADES OF ANTIOK BATMAN! I may finally replace my classics astrotrain. these are all fantastic. except for the ironhide repaint. sadly looks like I cant use my titan master apeface with the new one. not a big deal though. seriously hasbro your killing me with these! soooooo much money.

don't stop though...

[Chriphord]

Why wouldn't you be able to? It is a titan master head that this voyager Apeface has. (And with that can I just say how much I love them using the same engineering for combiners and headmasters over multiple lines?)