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Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:27 pm

They honestly could have done that anyway, he seems to have a lot of influence from Battletrap and it wouldn't have clashed with the previous use of the name Dropkick.

News Credits: 1646 · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:30 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They honestly could have done that anyway, he seems to have a lot of influence from Battletrap and it wouldn't have clashed with the previous use of the name Dropkick.

Except the previous use of Dropkick actually lines up fairly well with how this one turned out.

I would not change anything about Shatter and Dropkick, i think they nailed them both by adding in 2 new triple changers that are a great bad guy duo who live up to the name "Decepticons" and are a good strong addition to the mythos.

Plus, I think a duocon in real life without 2 separate robot modes for the components (like PotP Battletrap) would be pretty useless if one couldn't carry around the other

Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:58 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They honestly could have done that anyway, he seems to have a lot of influence from Battletrap and it wouldn't have clashed with the previous use of the name Dropkick.

Except the previous use of Dropkick actually lines up fairly well with how this one turned out.

In the "grumbling about being on Earth" way, maybe. But the other major aspect (Mass-produced drone guy) isn't present.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would not change anything about Shatter and Dropkick

I would. I'd have had them just stick to one altmode at a time for sanity's sake. I would also have made the movie they were in less of a hijack, but that's getting off-topic.

News Credits: 54 · Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:58 pm

By all accounts Shatter and Dropkick seemed to be inspired by Movie toy line characters Fracture and Dropkick, their TFwiki article has more details and the possible connection.

If Shatter was inspired by Fracture the name change might of had something to do with legal stuff and/or the Gobot connection of Fracture.

Also Zelda Dropkick from 2007 was both a mass produced Drone and a individual character, and there is no reason that just because we didn't see it in Bumblebee does it mean that Dropkick drones don't also exist in that universe.

News Credits: 1646 · Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:54 am

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Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:30 pm

Those are some nice deals.

Personally, my movie Starscream itch would be satisfied by someone doing a clay impression of the HFTD Leader's head and sending it to me so I can fabricate a head for mine.

News Credits: 25 · Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:34 pm

Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced. >:oP

Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:49 pm

I just returned from a snack run to my local meijer and low and behold they where having 25% all size classes! So who did I pick up?

The freshly put out jet Shatter and Jeep Bee! Only opened Shatter so far and shes a lovely toy. The transformation is nicely involved and everything fits and tabs together securely. The addition of the movable rear thruster nozzles like a real Harrier jump jet is a nice touch. I also really like the matte black accents used throughout. Overall just really blown away so far. All the jets in the Studio Series line have been pretty solid

News Credits: 1646 · Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:29 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced.

I disagree, that is actually a pretty dang good toy, far better than the Dropkick use

News Credits: 61 · Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:42 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced.

I disagree, that is actually a pretty dang good toy, far better than the Dropkick use

And Helicopter Dropkick is actually pretty good IMO - it’s not a good Dropkick at all (and since Studio Series is all about screen accuracy I see why people don’t like it), but as a generic Decepticon I think it’s actually pretty cool!

News Credits: 42 · Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:29 pm

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced.

I disagree, that is actually a pretty dang good toy, far better than the Dropkick use

And Helicopter Dropkick is actually pretty good IMO - it’s not a good Dropkick at all (and since Studio Series is all about screen accuracy I see why people don’t like it), but as a generic Decepticon I think it’s actually pretty cool!

I'm with you on Heli-kick. Solid generic con, with a fun transformation. I simply like how they got a reasonably normal width bot out of such a skinny helicopter.

News Credits: 1350 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:57 am

Would people had been more welcoming to Heli-kick if he just been marketed as a con, perhaps a troop builder candidate like Dreadwind from the first movie line?

I still wonder why they dropped the ball on that figure, considering the standard that the line had set.

Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:12 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Would people had been more welcoming to Heli-kick if he just been marketed as a con, perhaps a troop builder candidate like Dreadwind from the first movie line?

Or, for that matter, Dropkick from the first movie?

ZeroWolf wrote:I still wonder why they dropped the ball on that figure, considering the standard that the line had set.

Probably a combination of triple-changing not getting along with the movie aesthetic, trying to hide the car kibble in the copter mode being a new curveball even by movie line standards, and deadlines.

News Credits: 1350 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:21 am

To be fair, I keep forgetting about 07 Dropkick

News Credits: 54 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:43 am

It's also partially due to Dropkick being based off earlier concept art which is somewhere on the net to see much like how the first SS Bee movie Bee had aspects from his earlier design such as the door wings.

News Credits: 25 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:28 am

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Helicopter Drift is still horrendously over priced.

I disagree, that is actually a pretty dang good toy, far better than the Dropkick use

No, you dont disagree. I'm an idiot who got the figures confused.....

News Credits: 1646 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:09 am

Deadput wrote:It's also partially due to Dropkick being based off earlier concept art which is somewhere on the net to see much like how the first SS Bee movie Bee had aspects from his earlier design such as the door wings.

Also this.

First go of Dropkick and Bee suffered from changed character models. If they had done car Dropkick first, they probably would have had a better chance of getting it right, but also considering the first go for all 3 main Bee movie bots didn't really do too well, it might be for the best.

They need to give helicopter Dropkick another go, incorporate the now known car kibble into it.

Also, just realized that Offroad Bee is also not movie accurate: the actual movie model had door wings, and this one does not

News Credits: 1350 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:28 am

So he lost the car wings from the jeep to the beetle? What was the directors idea again behind losing the wings?

News Credits: 1646 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:45 am

ZeroWolf wrote:So he lost the car wings from the jeep to the beetle? What was the directors idea again behind losing the wings?

Yeah if you watch that opening scene, he has jeep wing, they're just angled down instead of up like the other movies.

for the beetle Bee, he folded the wings down to make him more round and compact and softer looking, I believe is the quote.

News Credits: 54 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:39 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:So he lost the car wings from the jeep to the beetle? What was the directors idea again behind losing the wings?

Bumblebee has wings on both designs, both facing down although on the VW Design it is more folded in on the back compared to the Jeep Bee having them simply hang down.

I think it was about making Bee more humanoid and such for reasons I forget.

Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:24 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:So he lost the car wings from the jeep to the beetle? What was the directors idea again behind losing the wings?

Yeah if you watch that opening scene, he has jeep wing, they're just angled down instead of up like the other movies.

for the beetle Bee, he folded the wings down to make him more round and compact and softer looking, I believe is the quote.

The animators should have thrown something at him when he proposed that.

News Credits: 1350 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:27 pm

He's the director, and they have the final say, that's why the bay movies are all bays fault right? Not like the faults with the films actually fell on multiple people and weren't all on bay's shoulders...

Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:36 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:He's the director, and they have the final say, that's why the bay movies are all bays fault right? Not like the faults with the films actually fell on multiple people and weren't all on bay's shoulders...

Ugh. I am sooooo sick of people blaming Mike for things that they should really be blasting Kurtzman, Orci, Kruger, and Spielberg for.

News Credits: 1350 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:44 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:He's the director, and they have the final say, that's why the bay movies are all bays fault right? Not like the faults with the films actually fell on multiple people and weren't all on bay's shoulders...
Ugh. I am sooooo sick of people blaming Mike for things that they should really be blasting Kurtzman, Orci, Kruger, and Spielberg for.

Exactly. Even Hasbro could shoulder some blame as they okayed everything still.

News Credits: 22 · Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:45 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:He's the director, and they have the final say, that's why the bay movies are all bays fault right? Not like the faults with the films actually fell on multiple people and weren't all on bay's shoulders...
Ugh. I am sooooo sick of people blaming Mike for things that they should really be blasting Kurtzman, Orci, Kruger, and Spielberg for.

Exactly. Even Hasbro could shoulder some blame as they okayed everything still.

Not only okayed them, but insisted on some of them, right?