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SW's SilverHammer wrote:I've said this for years, the club's focus are the hardcore fans who were there for '95, '05, and who will attend in 2015; because lets face it if you're a fan who can go every year; you will. and those are guaranteed checks for the club. Now that's not bad, just stagnant; the club won't change; if there's no need to.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:I've said this for years, the club's focus are the hardcore fans who were there for '95, '05, and who will attend in 2015; because lets face it if you're a fan who can go every year; you will. and those are guaranteed checks for the club. Now that's ot bad, just stagnant; the club won't change; if there's no need to.
Which is sad, because there are definitely mid-tier folks like me who can sign up for the subscription service, but can't justify going to a convention every year. Chicago makes it easier, but it's still a challenge. Some innovation might get some folks off the fence.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:megatronus wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:I've said this for years, the club's focus are the hardcore fans who were there for '95, '05, and who will attend in 2015; because lets face it if you're a fan who can go every year; you will. and those are guaranteed checks for the club. Now that's ot bad, just stagnant; the club won't change; if there's no need to.
Which is sad, because there are definitely mid-tier folks like me who can sign up for the subscription service, but can't justify going to a convention every year. Chicago makes it easier, but it's still a challenge. Some innovation might get some folks off the fence.
Yeah but that's risky, because if it's to new it will alienate hardcore fans,but if it's the same old same old, the fans who are willing to go every year are still a guaranteed check, and as long as it's a steady guarantee and they break even at least, the club won't change, because it's secure.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:megatronus wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:I've said this for years, the club's focus are the hardcore fans who were there for '95, '05, and who will attend in 2015; because lets face it if you're a fan who can go every year; you will. and those are guaranteed checks for the club. Now that's ot bad, just stagnant; the club won't change; if there's no need to.
Which is sad, because there are definitely mid-tier folks like me who can sign up for the subscription service, but can't justify going to a convention every year. Chicago makes it easier, but it's still a challenge. Some innovation might get some folks off the fence.
Yeah but that's risky, because if it's to new it will alienate hardcore fans,but if it's the same old same old, the fans who are willing to go every year are still a guaranteed check, and as long as it's a steady guarantee and they break even at least, the club won't change, because it's secure.
I'm not sure it would be so risky. Like you say, the guaranteed checks are guaranteed checks. The people who go every year tend to emphasize the social benefits and "experience of being at Botcon" rather than the product itself, or the advertising strategies that market that product.
But folks like us? I think if they want to broaden their base of attendees, they really need to implement at least some incremental change and experimentation.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:However I think there need to be a Botcon East, and Botcon West. because people like me on the coast, specifically the west coast, there's absolutely no convention for us this side of SDCC.
Va'al wrote:
How can you not love him.
He's so majestic.
He's so selfless.
He's so stylish.
And a great team worker.
ScottyP wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:However I think there need to be a Botcon East, and Botcon West. because people like me on the coast, specifically the west coast, there's absolutely no convention for us this side of SDCC.
A thousand times this. Have your California show, heck do Pasadena every year if you want to, it seems to make them money. Then rotate it around the East Coast and Midwest; see what works and what doesn't.
Maybe TF Con running two shows a year now will kick them in the pants a bit to do the same. Maybe.
Flux Convoy wrote:but if they work and they're profiting, why bother changing?
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:but if they work and they're profiting, why bother changing?
...because everyone knows the Transformers brand is about not changing.
Flux Convoy wrote:megatronus wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:but if they work and they're profiting, why bother changing?
...because everyone knows the Transformers brand is about not changing.
Sarcasm aside, I understand what you're saying. Capitalism doesn't adhere to any rule other than trying to make a profit though. Obviously this works for them. They're clearly not changing the strategy. We've all had ten years to get over it. I'm gonna go to Botcon and have a great time with great people even if I hate every last figure this year. I'm gonna be a club member and hope they produce stuff I like. If not, I'll live. They're only toys. It's a gamble, take it or leave it. Even better/cheaper, make friends with folks who attend. Have them grab stuff you want. I'd offer but my hands are already full. I lost my point. It's a hobby about toys. Shouldn't that be a fun thing?
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Flux Convoy wrote:I'd definitely argue that they're producing more. The sub and the additional figures. They're producing twenty plus figures per year now.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:megatronus wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:but if they work and they're profiting, why bother changing?
...because everyone knows the Transformers brand is about not changing.
Sarcasm aside, I understand what you're saying. Capitalism doesn't adhere to any rule other than trying to make a profit though. Obviously this works for them. They're clearly not changing the strategy. We've all had ten years to get over it. I'm gonna go to Botcon and have a great time with great people even if I hate every last figure this year. I'm gonna be a club member and hope they produce stuff I like. If not, I'll live. They're only toys. It's a gamble, take it or leave it. Even better/cheaper, make friends with folks who attend. Have them grab stuff you want. I'd offer but my hands are already full. I lost my point. It's a hobby about toys. Shouldn't that be a fun thing?
I'm glad you understood it was sarcasm in jest![]()
Thing is, you're going to go anyway. You're a guaranteed revenue stream to the Club. The question isn't about how to keep attendance the same, it's about how to grow the convention so the Club can make more money, put out more figures, and generally keep this whole thing going for longer. Keeping everything the same isn't the way to do that, necessarily.
Va'al wrote:Imma let you finish, but I need to share this reminder about Alpha Bravo.Va'al wrote:
How can you not love him.
He's so majestic.
He's so selfless.
He's so stylish.
And a great team worker.
Counterpunch wrote:Alpha Bravo for President.
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