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VioMeTriX wrote:
where was sunstreaker anywhere in the topic? and you ask a question that has been beat to death... but again, where do you see sunstreaker mentioned in any way in ths topic?
Seibertron wrote:And to answer Mike's question ... Bulkhead.
ScottyP wrote:Seibertron wrote:And to answer Mike's question ... Bulkhead.
But we need to know why
burning_sirius wrote:Everyone in Podcast hates on the G1 cartoon.
Then they say Prowl is awesome because 'it is like he walked off the cartoon'.
I can agree with this, but I find that Animated Bulkhead's dumbness is part of his charm. Yes, he's dumb mostly for comedic purposes at first, but at the same time, he isn't Patrick Star levels of dumb (despite most perceptions of Bulkhead that stem from his being voiced by Patrick's actor) and comes to show his own breed of smarts. It's later even revealed that he's not only a technical genius, but Cybertron's most profound technician in space bridge construction. An unexpected revelation that really worked in the guy's favor.Seibertron wrote:ScottyP wrote:Seibertron wrote:And to answer Mike's question ... Bulkhead.
But we need to know why
Because I've really grown to like him over the past 5 years since his introduction to the fandom. I didn't really care much for Bulkhead at first (he was just a big dumb oaf) but because my wife liked him after being introduced to him in Animated way back in 2008 and at BotCon 2008, I gave him a second chance. I really started to like him by the end of Animated. Once Prime came around though and he was no longer the "dumb" guy, my liking of the Bulkhead character grew greatly. It's been a long time since Ironhide has had any spotlight in the main characters. I like Ironhide, he's one of my favorite all-time characters, but as far as characterization goes, Bulkhead wins for the moment.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I can agree with this, but I find that Animated Bulkhead's dumbness is part of his charm. Yes, he's dumb mostly for comedic purposes at first, but at the same time, he isn't Patrick Star levels of dumb (despite most perceptions of Bulkhead that stem from his being voiced by Patrick's actor) and comes to show his own breed of smarts. It's later even revealed that he's not only a technical genius, but Cybertron's most profound technician in space bridge construction. An unexpected revelation that really worked in the guy's favor.Seibertron wrote:ScottyP wrote:Seibertron wrote:And to answer Mike's question ... Bulkhead.
But we need to know why
Because I've really grown to like him over the past 5 years since his introduction to the fandom. I didn't really care much for Bulkhead at first (he was just a big dumb oaf) but because my wife liked him after being introduced to him in Animated way back in 2008 and at BotCon 2008, I gave him a second chance. I really started to like him by the end of Animated. Once Prime came around though and he was no longer the "dumb" guy, my liking of the Bulkhead character grew greatly. It's been a long time since Ironhide has had any spotlight in the main characters. I like Ironhide, he's one of my favorite all-time characters, but as far as characterization goes, Bulkhead wins for the moment.![]()
Now, I honestly do wish I could give the same praise to Prime Bulkhead, but I just... can't. I know many were relieved to see that Prime Bulkhead didn't have the more simple mind of his Animated counterpart, but for that felt like a letdown, as I felt that was part of the original character's charm and appeal. Without it, though, he felt a bit more generic and less interesting. The most he had going for him now was his having once been a Wrecker, but that was only lightly touched upon and usually only in Wheeljack's presence. Most of the time, his fighting style didn't seem to differ between his Team Prime style and his Wrecker style. He was just "the big guy" now instead of "the lovable oaf w/ hidden geniusness". The latter just feels more interesting while the latter has been done many times over.
mooncake623 wrote:Seibertron wrote:
Hey Ryan! El Rio Grande is an awesome bar! Those Frozen margaritas are deadly. They're have one too many and you'll blackout. Great place for happy hour in the summer
Seibertron wrote:mooncake623 wrote:Seibertron wrote:
Hey Ryan! El Rio Grande is an awesome bar! Those Frozen margaritas are deadly. They're have one too many and you'll blackout. Great place for happy hour in the summer
No kidding! Man did those knock me unexpectedly on my ass that night. I knew it was coming too and drank a ton of water to no avail. Scary stuff how strong those are.
I have to stick up for myself a little after listening to the hard time the Podcast crew was giving me. I could hardly understand what they were saying to me on Skype on my phone because of all of the noise on the street. It's a miracle I was able to hear anything. There was a garbage truck literally right in front of me in front of Japas 38 on 38th. I kept think I'd duck around the corner to go in an alley like in Chicago but there's no escape from the noise on the streets in New York City. Cars going by, people talking, garbage trucks at all hours. I should have excused myself from the call but I wanted to spout off about AOE Optimus Prime, NYC, Matthew Reinhart's popup book and all of the other cool stuff that was happening in NYC.
I'm sure the margaritas at El Rio Grande didn't help much with the noise and doing a Skype podcast, but thanks for bearing with me everyone!
@mooncake623 ... do you live in NYC? Maybe I should plan a Seibertron.com bar outting at Toy Fair or next year when I'm back for NYC.
mooncake623 wrote:Seibertron wrote:@mooncake623 ... do you live in NYC? Maybe I should plan a Seibertron.com bar outting at Toy Fair or next year when I'm back for NYC.
Hahaha it was all very entertaining! I live in Brooklyn but work around midtown. Seibertron.com bar outing @ toy fair sounds like a great idea! I'am definitely down for that.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Seibertron wrote:I love the G1 cartoon. I know these guys do as well. But we do not just blindly love it. G1 has a TON of flaws. But I love it, flaws and all, and I imagine just about everyone on the podcast feels the same way. The flaws are part of its enduring and entertaining value to this day.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
There are plenty of folks on this site who did grow up with the G1 cartoon but don't hold it to the same standard now as they once did as children. There are many aspects of the show that have simply not aged well, such as the lack of character development, the obvious commercialism of the plots, and the numerous animation errors.Ultra Markus wrote:im getting that those who dont like the G1 has never grew up with it as a kid and therefore has no appreciation and cant understand what the show ment to us that did watch it at the ages of 5-12
There's no such thing as a "True Transformers Fan".Ultra Markus wrote:so i say to all the G1 haters they are not really true Transformers fans if they cant accept all the Transformers eras have a special place of there own to be appreciated,
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Razorclaw0000 wrote:I don't hate G1 so much as I won't choose G1 if another alternative is available. It, like many early to mid 80's cartoons, is plagued with NAKED COMMERCIALISM and an infuriating amount of continuity errors. It's hard to watch because it grates on my sense of correctness. I loved it when younger but as an old man, G1 has not aged well for me.
Ryan, I never said I was a fan of the Unicron Trilogy fiction, just a fan of most of Armada. The current IDW fiction and Furman's -ion and Spotlight stuff is my favorite by leagues. I seek epic, interconnected stories and great character evolution. That stuff has it in spades.
burning_sirius wrote:Anyway, I just take them as self contained episodes with a loose continuity. It was definitely one of the firsts shows to try to advance the plot (the TF Movie) and came up with nearly every essential part of Transformers lore... AND if that doesn't wet your beak, just pick up the comic and say that you were a G1 comic guy and not a cartoon guy. G1 has something for everyone to like. We are all inclusive.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
But... but season 2 was the one with the most commercialism in it.burning_sirius wrote:I don't see it that much honestly, especially in season 2 when they had more episodes to work with different characters.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think the problem with giving definitive endings to cartoons is that it might kill the sales of any toys coming out since kids will think the story is over. Leaving things ambiguous, like in "Predacons Rising," allows the thought that things are still "happening."
Sabrblade wrote:But... but season 2 was the one with the most commercialism in it.burning_sirius wrote:I don't see it that much honestly, especially in season 2 when they had more episodes to work with different characters.
"Autobot Spike" - focused on Autobot X, who had no toy
"Changing Gears" - advertised Gears
"City of Steel" - advertised the Constructicons
"Attack of the Autobots" - advertised Optimus
"Traitor" - advertised Mirage and the Insecticons
"The Immobilizer" - advertised Ironhide
"The Autobot Run" - advertised the toys' transforming gimmick in general
"Atlantis, Arise!" - advertised the Dinobots
"Day of the Machines" - advertised Optimus
"Enter the Nightbird" - focused on Nightbird, who had no toy
"A Prime Problem" - advertised Optimus
"The Core" - advertised the Constructicons
"The Insecticon Syndrome" - advertised the Insecticons
"Dinobot Island, Part 1" - advertised the Dinobots and all the new 1985 toys in general
"Dinobot Island, Part 2" - advertised the Dinobots and all the new 1985 toys in general
"The Master Builders" - advertised Grapple and Hoist
"Auto Berserk" - advertised Red Alert and Inferno
"Microbots" - advertised Perceptor
"Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1" - advertised the 1984-1985 Decepticon toys
"Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2" - advertised the 1984-1985 Decepticons toys
"Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1" - advertised the Dinobots
"Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2" - advertised the Dinobots
"Blaster Blues" - advertised Blaster and Cosmos
"A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court" - focused on just the sheer fun of the episode
"The Golden Lagoon" - advertised Beachcomber
"The God Gambit" - advertised Astrotrain, Cosmos, and Omega Supreme
"Make Tracks" - advertised Tracks
"Child's Play" - advertised the toyline itself
"Quest for Survival" - advertised the Insecticons
"The Secret of Omega Supreme" - advertised Omega Supreme and the Constructicons
"The Gambler" - advertised Smokescreen
"Kremzeek!" - focused on Kremzeek, who had no toy at the time
"Sea Change" - advertised Seaspray
"Triple Takeover" - advertised Blitzwing and Astrotrain
"Prime Target" - advertised Optimus
"Auto-Bop" - advertised Tracks, Blaster, Soundwave, and the cassettes
"The Search for Alpha Trion" - focused on the female Autobots and Alpha Trion, who had no toys back then
"The Girl Who Loved Powerglide" - advertised Powerglide
"Hoist Goes Hollywood" - advertised Hoist
"The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1" - advertised the Stunticons
"The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2" - advertised the Stunticons and Aerialbots
"Aerial Assault" - advertised the Aerialbots and Combaticons
"War Dawn" - advertised the Aerialbots
"Trans-Europe Express" - advertised the Stunticons
"Cosmic Rust" - advertised Perceptor, the Aerialbots, and the Stunticons
"Starscream's Brigade" - advertised the Combaticons
"The Revenge of Bruticus" - advertised the Combaticons
"Masquerade" - advertised the Stunticons
"B.O.T." - advertised the Protectobots and the Combaticons
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