dx 48 wrote:Id say the Federations screwed unless they somehow replicate the Matrix of leadership
Evolution Prime wrote:It would be interesting to see if the Genesis Project would even work on Unicron. If so, they might have a chance to defeat Unicron.
Thanatos Prime wrote:I agree, and there is no way they can copy the divine power of Primus so they are screwed to no end.
Jacoiros wrote:Thanatos Prime wrote:I agree, and there is no way they can copy the divine power of Primus so they are screwed to no end.
Unicron's been stopped in multiple continuities before without the Matrix.
In the Unicron trilogy he was stopped by a massive Decepticon/Autobot assault that culminated in the alliance against him with the help of the MInicons. Then, he was plunged into a sun. And then imprisoned in a black hole.
In Devil's Due GI JOE/Transformers v4, he was stopped by organic rust spores that consumed his brain and left him a floating derelict (I am /NOT/ making this up).
In Beast Wars Neo he possessed Galvatron II (BW char, not Marvel US, dragon) and was blasted by the combined attack of Magmatron and.. Big or Lio Convoy, I froget who.
Jacoiros wrote:And then in BW v2: The Gathering (IDW) he was stopped by the destruction of his intended avatar form and the disruption of his Matrix, Shokaract.
Thanatos Prime wrote:dx 48 wrote:Id say the Federations screwed unless they somehow replicate the Matrix of leadership
I agree, and there is no way they can copy the divine power of Primus so they are screwed to no end.
Senor Hugo wrote:Divine Power of Primus = Cosmic Flashlight
You know, Q is omnipotent, he'd have no trouble taking out Unicron himself. And if anything he could pop over to the TF universe, as Prime how to stop Unicron, then duplicate the power of the Cosmic Flashlight known as the MAtrix, and boom. No more Unicron.
Senor Hugo wrote:You know, Q is omnipotent
Jacoiros wrote:If one goes by levels of omniscience and omnipotence, the Q are at the low end of the spectrum, not at the peak.
Jacoiros wrote:Actually, compared ot chars like Galactus or Mxyplkth, Q's haven't displayed /that/ much omnipotence. Among his abilities are creating realistic illusions/bringing life out of thin air, transporting the Enterprise halfway across the galaxy, and tormenting Picard with some sort fo temporal illusoin when his heart died and then creating an alternate pocket reality around him.
The effects of the Q civil war were stated to be 'disruptive to the fabric of space time' - by such things as stars randomly going nova and black holes forming.
Multiple characters in comics have displayed the ability to destroy galaxies or even the etnire universe as a casual air. If you're going by 'Gods' then Washu is infinitely more powerful than Q as she has better feats under her name than all of the Metaphysical characters in Star Trek combined.
Unicron is an Elder, ENtropic Anthropomorphic representation of Chaos that is said to exist solely to consume all of reality to bring it collapsing down on itself in total destruction. Ergo his age is potetnially tens, hundreds of billions or even TRILLIONS of years old. While we don't know the origins o f the Q, nothing I've ever read remotely implies that they're older than the current reality that they exist in.
The Power of Primus is in essence the power of a contained Big Bang, which when released could potentially restart the fabric of reality after Unicron obliterated it.
The highest end metaphysical feats we see in Star Trek are either that of the Bajoran Prophets, who casually obliterated the entire Dominion Fleet in DS9, or a character I forget the name of in TNG that wiped an entire galactic-spanning Empire out in the blink of an eye as if they never even existed. Both of which are power feats that are greater than /ANYTHING/ the Q, any member of the continuum or it's etnirety, have ever displayed.
If one goes by levels of omniscience and omnipotence, the Q are at the low end of the spectrum, not at the peak.
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OptimusN1701 wrote:The emergence of Unicron into the Star Trek universe would undoubtably pique the interest of the Borg that were not destroyed in Endgame. The Borg would deem Unicron a threat and consider allying with the Federation to stop Unicron (on the basis that they allied with Voyager to stop Species 8472, who was decimating the Collective) Borg nanoprobes would probably wreak havoc on Unicron's systems, although they may attempt to assimilate his body which would open up a whole other can of worms for the Feddies.
Chaoslock wrote:OptimusN1701 wrote:The emergence of Unicron into the Star Trek universe would undoubtably pique the interest of the Borg that were not destroyed in Endgame. The Borg would deem Unicron a threat and consider allying with the Federation to stop Unicron (on the basis that they allied with Voyager to stop Species 8472, who was decimating the Collective) Borg nanoprobes would probably wreak havoc on Unicron's systems, although they may attempt to assimilate his body which would open up a whole other can of worms for the Feddies.
I think that the Borg could bow to the Chaosbringer, and emerge to a new level of Horsemen....
That said, Unicron wins.
But if the Federation shovels up the records of Stan Bush...
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