SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Being an adult collector, it is precisely the DOTM line's simplicity that turns me off.
z-span wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Being an adult collector, it is precisely the DOTM line's simplicity that turns me off.
Wait, wait...not to pick a fight here, but um, take a look at nearly, I don't know, 95% of G1, G2 and Machine Wars. Talk about simplicity. A 2 year old could transform Prime.
I think it's great that they're taking a look at the complexity of some transformations. When I sit down and play with my son maybe now he doesn't have to ask me to transform all of his movie line toys. It's like alright, "Let's have a quick battle between Starscream, Bumblebee, Ironhide and Barricade!" "Wait son, I need 20 minutes to go through each one and make sure I turn each panel just right." By then he's bored and wants to move onto something else.
As a limited piece collector, I enjoy the complexity of some TF's. As a parent, I don't. Rock on, Hasbro! Rock on!
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:z-span wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Being an adult collector, it is precisely the DOTM line's simplicity that turns me off.
Wait, wait...not to pick a fight here, but um, take a look at nearly, I don't know, 95% of G1, G2 and Machine Wars. Talk about simplicity. A 2 year old could transform Prime.
I think it's great that they're taking a look at the complexity of some transformations. When I sit down and play with my son maybe now he doesn't have to ask me to transform all of his movie line toys. It's like alright, "Let's have a quick battle between Starscream, Bumblebee, Ironhide and Barricade!" "Wait son, I need 20 minutes to go through each one and make sure I turn each panel just right." By then he's bored and wants to move onto something else.
As a limited piece collector, I enjoy the complexity of some TF's. As a parent, I don't. Rock on, Hasbro! Rock on!
No worries, man; I'm not going to overreact and blow things out of proportion.
Maybe I should have been a little more precise here. When I said I'm an adult collector, I don't mean to say I'm a G1 collector or anything. Didn't occur to me that someone would peg an adult collector automatically as a G1 collector, which I'm not. It's been over two decades since my parents bought me my first TF as a child, and I've only started collecting TF's at the end of the Classics line. The majority of TF's I bought are from the more complex, post-Bayverse era.
I guess I've become so used to complex transformations and highly detailed figures, that the thought of G1 era simplicity is just alien to me.
In any case, I'm glad you and your son are going to enjoy your TF's more from the DOTM line. I do agree that some of the TF's in the ROTF line was overly complex for children, Leader class OP being a prime example [no pun intended.]
My only hope is that Takara will make a similar move like they did with Buster Prime and introduce their own retooled DOTM leader class OP with convertible trailer. Unlikely, though, given the planned release of the supreme class OP. Not my cup of tea, though, what with the overly simplified transformation that leaves his front wheels on his forearms.
TimothyR wrote:wait a second.. isn't the transformation supposed to be the main attraction for kids? i mean, it's supposed to be something that they're supposed to have fun trying to figure out. why do you think kids enjoy puzzles? that's basically what it is, except it's a toy and not a boring puzzle.
and.. that's why there are activators, legends class figures, and scout class figures. those are all fairly simple. there's no need to make the other classes more simple.
i highly doubt takara is going to redesign the supreme primes trailer.
however.. it is possible that they do something similar to the transformers united prime. i wouldn't mind getting a retooled voyager prime with a transformable trailer. plus, on one of those products lists we saw.. wasn't there a listing for a voyager prime with trailer?
it still baffles me how incredibly bad they handled the leader prime w/ trailer. the jetfire/prime combo was okay.. and there was a little leeway given because jetfire needed also needed a robot mode and an alt mode. .. but this trailer doesn't. it just needs to be a box with wheels and a tricked out jet pack.. that's it.
first off they should've just retooled the rotf leader prime. i just don't get what is so hard about turning a trailer into a jet pack. or hell.. they could've just used half of the trailer for the jet pack and used the other half as a gun or a base .. like city commander. those wings look nothing like the cg model, the legs look like detailed bricks, the arms look like they were stolen from a steel gorilla, which in turn makes primes head look tiny, and lastly.. the wings are just completely unforgivable. they're way too long, i mean, they couldn't have just had them fold up? or hell, at least have those wheels fold out of the way.
it's just another rotf devastator.. something that had the chance to be utterly epic.. yet just wreaks of laziness and the "oh they'll buy it, it's a huge prime" mentality. it's really just insulting. this is the "last" movie to the trilogy, they could've at least put their greed aside and given us the cherry on top.
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