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News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:14 am

In the gallery, Blackout appears to be holding one of his main blades as a club. Are they detachable? I don't want to snap one off so I'm afraid of trying it and the instructions don't mention it.

Also, how is his blade backpack supposed to sit on his shoulder? the shoulder peg slots through one of the holes the cage goes through, but the only one that fits with the backpack able to line up means the thing hangs off his shoulder and falls off, instead of resting on his shoulder like the instructions say. And it doesn't line up with his hand.

The gallery doesn't feature him holding his weapon like this at all (surprisingly for such normally detailed galleries) so any help would be greatly appreciated.

News Credits: 23 · by **ZenPrime** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:28 am

The instructions didn't mention using his blades as swords, but like you I saw the Blackout gallery here so I thought that was cool having my Blackout holding double blades. The blades do come off if you pull it from the socket, altho I haven't tried putting them back in. The blades are a little tricky to wedge into Blackout's hands, which led me to believe the blades are not design to be weapons....

As for the propeller pack, I have not tried to seat that on his shoulders...

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:29 am

His blades are deliberately detachable, and he can hold them, but he doesn't hold them very well. I'm not 100% certain he is supposed to hold them, as they don't really have handles and rest very loosely in his grip.

I'm not sure what you mean about the backpack. What are you referring to when you say "the shoulder peg slots through one of the holes the cage goes through"? The cage doesn't really go through any holes, it just revolves onto the top of the tail.

by **Greed** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:38 am

Yeah, the blade backpack doesn't work well at all. It hangs off the side way too much and throws him off balance and unless you get him to hold it, it'll just fall off.

Best to just leave the pack on his back and just have him stand there.

(take the pack off if you actually plan to pose him.

News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:53 pm

yea, that gimmick on the tip of the tail makes standing him with the backpack a pain in the ass. and i was curious too about the blades as weapons, overall, i feel this figure is next to impossible to do anything more than a stading pose with all equipment attached

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:46 am

I've managed to balance him well in some funky poses with his backpack attatched. He doesn't even need to rest on it.

I don't think I'll try to remove the blades though, they look tricky and knowing me, I'll snap it off if I try.

Leonardo wrote:I'm not sure what you mean about the backpack. What are you referring to when you say "the shoulder peg slots through one of the holes the cage goes through"? The cage doesn't really go through any holes, it just revolves onto the top of the tail.

The hole I was referring to is one of the two the cage slots into when it is on the underside, not the top. There is a black peg on the front centre of the cage and a peg coloured liek the main body on each side of the cage set about half way down. The hole is the one the body coloured pegs clip into to secure the cage in place. Because it's on the edge, the backpack overhangs way too much.

Guess Blackout will just use his shoulder rockets and Scorpinok as his weapons.

Thanks for your input.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:48 am

Greed wrote:Yeah, the blade backpack doesn't work well at all. It hangs off the side way too much and throws him off balance and unless you get him to hold it, it'll just fall off.

Best to just leave the pack on his back and just have him stand there.

(take the pack off if you actually plan to pose him.

Actully I've managed to pull off some rather good poses with the backpack on, even managed a 'running' pose where the pack wasnt touching the table. I dunno why, but from the front he looks nowhere near as good without the pack on.

by **Nujevad** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:54 am

I seem to recall in the previews, he used his helicopter rotor as a kind of spinning blade weapon. I don't think the toy can do that.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:58 am

Nujevad wrote:I seem to recall in the previews, he used his helicopter rotor as a kind of spinning blade weapon. I don't think the toy can do that.

WRONG!

It can, the whole 'backpack' comes off and attaches to his shoulder and has a peg that locates in his hand.

It's not the worst weapon of all time, but it does look a little silly and lopsided.

by **Nujevad** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:05 am

Hey, I said I don't think, I didn't say I'm sure he doesn't. I don't have the figure and I don't see a picture of him holding it that way in the gallery so that's where I based my assumption.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:21 am

Nujevad wrote:Hey, I said I don't think, I didn't say I'm sure he doesn't. I don't have the figure and I don't see a picture of him holding it that way in the gallery so that's where I based my assumption.

Eh, no worries.

by **Koloth** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:51 am

You don't see a pic because I'm sure Seibs couldn't get Blackout to stand upright with the thing on his shoulder any better than the rest of us. Basically he is like a guy trying to lift his own body weight up onto his shoulder and balance on one foot. It isn't going to happen in any pose that looks good. Unless you glued him to the table first.

by **Nujevad** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:00 am

...and I thought Classics Jetfire was top heavy...

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:02 am

Yeah, Ryan missed that one apparently. I'll have a few pics up shortly though. :grin:

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:14 am

Okay, here we go! :grin:

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:15 am

More

News Credits: 349 · by **Bed Bugs** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:16 am

Lastly, you can get poses out of him with it on.

by **Greed** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:16 am

Redimus wrote:Actully I've managed to pull off some rather good poses with the backpack on, even managed a 'running' pose where the pack wasn't touching the table. I dunno why, but from the front he looks nowhere near as good without the pack on.

I can pose him too but not without having him hunched over.

News Credits: 23 · by **ZenPrime** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:26 pm

My Blackout holding double blades...

by **Koloth** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:33 pm

How stiff are the joints on yours Fender Bender? Because if i splayed the legs out like that on mine he would end up in the splits. He is fine without the backpack but with it no way.

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:43 am

Aah, so he can hold it if his arm angles outward. Thanks FB.

News Credits: 7 · by **Omega Charge** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:58 pm

I think his weapon is cool, it just takes up too much plastic, making the robot short. And about his blades, they some off quite easily. I'm always losing them all over the place. Right now one's missing and I'm pissed off. I get that way everytime a lose a missile or something, and spend hours angrily searching.

by **Wheelimus Prime** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:15 pm

Omega Charge wrote:I think his weapon is cool, it just takes up too much plastic, making the robot short. And about his blades, they some off quite easily. I'm always losing them all over the place. Right now one's missing and I'm pissed off. I get that way everytime a lose a missile or something, and spend hours angrily searching.

same with me just make it a 4 bladed copter until u find the other blade