The Energon Pub

[Soundgrave]

Power vs strategy... who wins
I think time and location change who wins
say, City (downtown area) Ironhide
Grasslands/highway: Blackout

[Combat Zero]

Ironhide, he’s much durable than most movieformers.

[snavej]

Ironhide is tough on the outside but frail on the inside (ref. his tech specs). Blackout can beat him fairly easy by slamming him repeatedly into a hard surface. I's innards would be scrambled and he'd be helpless. After a while, his brain chip would snap and he'd die.

B could fly the deactivated I to a deep part of the ocean and drop him in, to be crushed by the water pressure. [Oh, I do think such fun thoughts! ]