The Energon Pub

[Randomhero]

But at the same time, don't forget that it was said that the 13 ores were planted on the planets where the 13 Primes supposedly went after they left Cybertron (and the enigma). I don't recall them ever saying that the ores were planted where the colony worlds were, just the final resting places of the 13.

They did. Alpha Trion mentions that shockwave did not launch them randomly. He chose those planets specially. 13 ores on 13 planets 13 primes. It was the issue where alpha Trion tells Optimus about galavtrons past during ancient syberyron when they visited the moon. Sadly shockwave took all his secrets to the grave. 2 years ago the one guy who apparently knew everything died and I'm starting to wonder if maybe, just maybe shockwave may be returning somehow someday because apparently he has all the answers to all the questions that are getting asked in Transformers

I just checked. He said the ores were planted on the resting places of the 13 primes, not colonies. And yes, Shockwave had lots of secrets that now many of us want and need to know.

Except we know that colonies were chosen because they the planets that the Prime's chose to go. Or the other way around. Technically cyclonus, nova dai atlas and Galvatron all existed during the era of the 13 and according to the annual for RID Metrotitans left way before their time so it's possible the 13 chose planets that Titans were already on. Confused? I sure as hell am as I write this. QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS! That should be the new subtitle after the removed RID from johns book!

Alpha Trion throws a huge wrench into much of the 13/13/13 stuff.

There are 13 Colony Titans, and Shockwave fired 13 Regenesis Ore Missiles, but A3 remained on Cybertron. We're not going to get a perfect pattern.

Additionally, Carcer, seemingly ID'd by Metroplex as a Colony Titan, is spaceborne - no planet to have a Regenisis Ore. Maaaaybe we'll get a reveal that Carcer isn't really a Colony Titan on account of its history w/ Tempo, or some other explanation, but the current data doesn't match the Primes lining up perfectly with the Ores or Titans.

Did Shockwave make a mistake? Did Alpha Trion take an interplanetary vacation when the ores were fired? Mysteries abound.

Actually he did. Alpha Trion has left cybertron multiple times. He comes and goes as he pleases.

Not only does alpha Trion muck it up but we saw Nexus Prime get blown to $@&+ by Galvatron. So just by that technically only 10 Primes left Cyberton, maybe 9. Megatronus's betrayl may have been him killing Solus.

[Randomhero]

And don't you dare...DONT YOU DARE ACCUSE SHOCKWAVE OF MAKING MISTAKES! Shockwave is logic! SHOCKWAVE IS ALL!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

It was noted that Nexus' enigma represented him and is the reason for an ore on Earth, so the enigma "fixes" that whole thing with Nexus, but yes, Alpha makes a mess of things, let alone the stories of the other primes

[RevTibe]

Memory's fuzzy, the quote about Shockwave matching the Ores to Primes was said by someone other than Shockwave, yes? Would make it an unreliable statement.

I thought the implication was that Earth was Nexus's "resting place" on account of Galvatron firing the Enigma there, so if Earth becomes a colony of the Arisen, then the planet's doubling down on Prime-ness.

Also, this is just a hunch, but I feel like the MTME footnote, Prion, might not be one of the proper 13 Colony Titans, but something more akin to the Circle of Light's Titan.

[Randomhero]

It was noted that Nexus' enigma represented him and is the reason for an ore on Earth, so the enigma "fixes" that whole thing with Nexus, but yes, Alpha makes a mess of things, let alone the stories of the other primes

Well we're not sure about that. The enigma was there because of Galvatron. It may have landed there because of ten titan it honed it on the closest thing that was Cybertonian. Again we need more answers not questions lol

[Randomhero]

Memory's fuzzy, the quote about Shockwave matching the Ores to Primes was said by someone other than Shockwave, yes? Would make it an unreliable statement.

I thought the implication was that Earth was Nexus's "resting place" on account of Galvatron firing the Enigma there, so if Earth becomes a colony of the Arisen, then the planet's doubling down on Prime-ness.

Also, this is just a hunch, but I feel like the MTME footnote, Prion, might not be one of the proper 13 Colony Titans, but something more akin to the Circle of Light's Titan.

It was alpha Trion. He's a pretty reliable source when he's not being a weird jack sparrow like troll to ironhide.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm also still waiting for Sideswipe to stand back up. I miss my guy.

[Va'al]

Memory's fuzzy, the quote about Shockwave matching the Ores to Primes was said by someone other than Shockwave, yes? Would make it an unreliable statement.

I thought the implication was that Earth was Nexus's "resting place" on account of Galvatron firing the Enigma there, so if Earth becomes a colony of the Arisen, then the planet's doubling down on Prime-ness.

Also, this is just a hunch, but I feel like the MTME footnote, Prion, might not be one of the proper 13 Colony Titans, but something more akin to the Circle of Light's Titan.

It was alpha Trion. He's a pretty reliable source when he's not being a weird jack sparrow like troll to ironhide.

(Come ON, 'Like' button.)

[Randomhero]

I'm still waiting for Wheelie and Garnak go show back up. I just realized last week that prime has his Skyroller back and last we knew wheelie and Garnak had in when prime and crew dived into the dead universe so where are they?!?!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm still waiting for Wheelie and Garnak go show back up. I just realized last week that prime has his Skyroller back and last we knew wheelie and Garnak had in when prime and crew dived into the dead universe so where are they?!?!

Another good question that I didn't think about. But with TR coming, I think wheelie can be counted back in shortly.

[Randomhero]

I'm still waiting for Wheelie and Garnak to show back up. I just realized last week that prime has his Skyroller back and last we knew wheelie and Garnak had it when prime and crew dived into the dead universe so where are they?!?!

Another good question that I didn't think about. But with TR coming, I think wheelie can be counted back in shortly.

What I want more than anything is TFCC subscription service Titans return wheelie with a stupid cape, poop-stained arm that can go in a Garnak pretender shell. MAKE THAT A THING!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm still waiting for Wheelie and Garnak to show back up. I just realized last week that prime has his Skyroller back and last we knew wheelie and Garnak had it when prime and crew dived into the dead universe so where are they?!?!

Another good question that I didn't think about. But with TR coming, I think wheelie can be counted back in shortly.

What I want more than anything is TFCC subscription service Titans return wheelie with a stupid cape, poop-stained arm that can go in a Garnak pretender shell. MAKE THAT A THING!

If I were in charge of the collectors club, that would certainly be a thing. This should be a thing. Why isn't this a thing?

who knows, maybe after combiners and headmasters, we'll get pretenders and color changers!

[Randomhero]

It does feel like pretenders will be next up. I don't mind gimmicks but I personally do like just generations just being modern figures. It kinda bums me out because that means the Takara legends black arachnia, night bird and slipstream won't happen because generations now has to tie into a gimmick. I own them all but I want them to be out for everyone

Sorry to get off topic

[Va'al]

Drop that (excellent) Wheelie idea here!

[Randomhero]

Copied and pasted! Thanks Doc! Lol

[RevTibe]

I suppose Alpha Trion being a complete troll could answer plenty of questions. "By the way Optimus, I spent a few millennia at a separate Colony, sipping on one of Shocker's Regenisis Ores. It was pretty great, the Titan's a cool guy."
"...why did you never mention this to me?"
"Why, you never asked, of course!"

[Randomhero]

I suppose Alpha Trion being a complete troll could answer plenty of questions. "By the way Optimus, I spent a few millennia at a separate Colony, sipping on one of Shocker's Regenisis Ores. It was pretty great, the Titan's a cool guy."
"...why did you never mention this to me?"
"Why, you never asked, of course!"

Exactly! He spent over 4 million years never mentioning he was a prime to anyone and we know he's bailed out of cybertron a few times

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I suppose Alpha Trion being a complete troll could answer plenty of questions. "By the way Optimus, I spent a few millennia at a separate Colony, sipping on one of Shocker's Regenisis Ores. It was pretty great, the Titan's a cool guy."
"...why did you never mention this to me?"
"Why, you never asked, of course!"

Worst part is is that this is completely true and plausible. This guy probably knows tricks and facts the we can't even imagine and is being a troll. This new TR toy? It is probably gonna be because he feels old and decides to triple change cause he mastered the ability to assume multiple modes! (that last part is kind of a joke)

[RevTibe]

I suppose Alpha Trion being a complete troll could answer plenty of questions. "By the way Optimus, I spent a few millennia at a separate Colony, sipping on one of Shocker's Regenisis Ores. It was pretty great, the Titan's a cool guy."
"...why did you never mention this to me?"
"Why, you never asked, of course!"

Worst part is is that this is completely true and plausible. This guy probably knows tricks and facts the we can't even imagine and is being a troll. This new TR toy? It is probably gonna be because he feels old and decides to triple change cause he mastered the ability to assume multiple modes! (that last part is kind of a joke)

It's funny you mention the toy - I was just thinking it could be "back in my daaaay" A3, when he was young tearaway with a fur jacket Still, a midlife crisis would fit into the current story better...

[Va'al]

I suppose Alpha Trion being a complete troll could answer plenty of questions. "By the way Optimus, I spent a few millennia at a separate Colony, sipping on one of Shocker's Regenisis Ores. It was pretty great, the Titan's a cool guy."
"...why did you never mention this to me?"
"Why, you never asked, of course!"

Exactly! He spent over 4 million years never mentioning he was a prime to anyone and we know he's bailed out of cybertron a few times

And he's convinced Camiens to do this job, Galvatron to fight his own siblings, supervised the newly minted Optimus Prime, in some future he just hangs out with Ironhide, being as chummy as he was condescending during the Ironhide mini, and he cosplays as the Bat Tumbler.

[Ironhidensh]

I suppose Alpha Trion being a complete troll could answer plenty of questions. "By the way Optimus, I spent a few millennia at a separate Colony, sipping on one of Shocker's Regenisis Ores. It was pretty great, the Titan's a cool guy."
"...why did you never mention this to me?"
"Why, you never asked, of course!"

Trion is Dumbledore.....

[Prowl4]

I'm just wondering why the fembots are so over powered and don't ever get injured or killed.

[RevTibe]

I'm just wondering why the fembots are so over powered and don't ever get injured or killed.

I'm just wondering if you actually read these comics;

don't ever get injured

don't ever get injured

[Prowl4]

I'm just wondering why the fembots are so over powered and don't ever get injured or killed.

I'm just wondering if you actually read these comics;

don't ever get injured

don't ever get injured

Serious injuries like comas etc. Any fembots die you seem to have left that part out aside froma few little dents and scratches.

[Va'al]

Let's not let a third thread devolve into the same discussion, please.