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Postby Robinson » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:44 pm

I think next weeks raw will be fun
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Postby Venomous Prime » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:58 am

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Dr. Heavy B wrote:you know, there are times i think WWE cant surprise me, then they pull out the A.P.A. and that made my night


Even though they looked terrible in the ring..they were quite funny :lol:
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Postby Gutter Bunny » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:17 am

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Dr. Heavy B wrote:you know, there are times i think WWE cant surprise me, then they pull out the A.P.A. and that made my night


Even though they looked terrible in the ring..they were quite funny :lol:


agreed...but they were working with coachman, who really couldn't sell a hit to save his soul.

on a different note: Nope still hate jericho's facebuster.
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Postby Venomous Prime » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:17 pm

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At least he went for the Walls this week!

Except JR called it the Liontamer.

I about fainted!

Speaking of JR, it looks like he finally realized he has been calling the Whisper In The Wind the wrong name for months now :lol:
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Postby Gutter Bunny » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:08 pm

Original Sin wrote:At least he went for the Walls this week!

Except JR called it the Liontamer.

I about fainted!

Speaking of JR, it looks like he finally realized he has been calling the Whisper In The Wind the wrong name for months now :lol:


yeah i laughed when JR said "I actually know that move" about the whisper in the wind.

As for the walls...my mind is still all screwed up and thinks liontamer, so i consider it a forgivable offense.
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Postby Venomous Prime » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:12 pm

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Gutter Bunny wrote:
Original Sin wrote:At least he went for the Walls this week!

Except JR called it the Liontamer.

I about fainted!

Speaking of JR, it looks like he finally realized he has been calling the Whisper In The Wind the wrong name for months now :lol:


yeah i laughed when JR said "I actually know that move" about the whisper in the wind.

As for the walls...my mind is still all screwed up and thinks liontamer, so i consider it a forgivable offense.


To be truthful, there is a difference between the Walls and Liontamer.

The Walls of Jericho is an elevated boston crab

The Liontamer was a elevated boston crab with a knee to the back.

and I got to talk to one of my child hood heroes on his official myspace the other day.

Ultimo Dragon!!!

He is in the process of making a movie.

Its called UD:08

I have no clue what its about, but just him replying to me gave me a big thrill.
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Postby Gutter Bunny » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:15 pm

Original Sin wrote:
Gutter Bunny wrote:
Original Sin wrote:At least he went for the Walls this week!

Except JR called it the Liontamer.

I about fainted!

Speaking of JR, it looks like he finally realized he has been calling the Whisper In The Wind the wrong name for months now :lol:


yeah i laughed when JR said "I actually know that move" about the whisper in the wind.

As for the walls...my mind is still all screwed up and thinks liontamer, so i consider it a forgivable offense.


To be truthful, there is a difference between the Walls and Liontamer.

The Walls of Jericho is an elevated boston crab

The Liontamer was a elevated boston crab with a knee to the back.

and I got to talk to one of my child hood heroes on his official myspace the other day.

Ultimo Dragon!!!

He is in the process of making a movie.

Its called UD:08

I have no clue what its about, but just him replying to me gave me a big thrill.


you have to admit though, they are similar enouch that most people don't notice the difference(me for one...i see it now that you mention it)

what ever happened to UD being in wwe? He was there, i saw maybe 3 matches, rarely got to watch smackdown, then he's gone.
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Postby Venomous Prime » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:19 pm

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UD hated working in WWE, he only went there to fulfill two childhood dreams.

1) To wrestle at Madison Square Garden(which he did in his debut match that was extremely underhyped)

2) To wrestle at Wrestlemania. Which he got to do, but it was part of the Cruiserweight Invitational.

WWE has never treated their cruiserweights right.

I mean look at Paul London, he's not allowed to do half of his moves!

WWE is really stupid when they try to promote smackdown now that I think about it.

They claim its the only place to find the high flying and nonstop action of the cruiserweight division.

But where is the high flying and where is the action?
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Postby Gutter Bunny » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:28 pm

I've always hated that about the wwe
Hell, the high flyers are majority of the reason i watch prowrestling.

Only one of the big guys i truely enjoy watching is taker...and thats probably just leftover from childhood.

I can't say i'm well versed with london's career, what kind of moves do they not allow?
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Postby Venomous Prime » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:54 pm

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Any variation of the shooting star press.

That's probably why Kidman doesn't have a career there anymore :lol:

I wonder if the 450 is banned too?

I know the Vertebreaker is banned in WWE
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Postby Damolisher » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:00 pm

Yeah, at least TNA has a freakin' semblence to a Cruiserweight division. And at least those matches are fun to watch. And as for the 450, it's meant to be banned, but Jillian did a severely botched one the other week. And as for WWE's cruisers? There's no Cruiserweight division. With the exception on NOble's recent push, they're simply there as jobbers. And that's McMahon's problem. Rather than matching undercard guy against undercard guy, he'd rather use undercard guy as a jobbing tool, or keep 'em off TV altogther.
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Postby Gutter Bunny » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:37 pm

Original Sin wrote:Any variation of the shooting star press.

That's probably why Kidman doesn't have a career there anymore :lol:

I wonder if the 450 is banned too?


well that would explain why I never see anybody do those anymore...

gee i wonder if the ssp is banned because lesnar tried to kill himself. Checkmark another reason for me to hate the heavyweights.
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Postby Venomous Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:38 am

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The SSP is banned because Kidman botched it and hurt Chavo.

I was shocked when I saw RAW in Cleveland a few months ago, it was London/Kendrick and Jeff Hardy vs Cade Murdoch and I can't remember who else, maybe it was Shelton.

But London ran and jumped off the apron and did a Shooting Star Press onto whoever was standing on the out side..that was amazing.

I just wish we could see more of that instead of boring ass ****!
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Postby Heavy B » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:40 pm

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anyone eles see the report that trish stratus will no show the aniversery show and will be replaced by lita. affter her exit i didnt think lita would want to be on the show ever again
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Postby Venomous Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:48 pm

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Dinobot wrote:
Original Sin wrote:The SSP is banned because Kidman botched it and hurt Chavo.

I was shocked when I saw RAW in Cleveland a few months ago, it was London/Kendrick and Jeff Hardy vs Cade Murdoch and I can't remember who else, maybe it was Shelton.

But London ran and jumped off the apron and did a Shooting Star Press onto whoever was standing on the out side..that was amazing.

I just wish we could see more of that instead of boring ass ****!


Not to mention that it almost put the lights out for Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania XIX.

Personally, I like watching wrestlers pull of those high risky moves, but it shouldn't get to risky. I remember some "botchvideo" on YouTube were those SSP's go wrong pretty badly and that's in those Indy Feds where they hardly got any medical attention..

Out of topic btw, I love your nWo-style signature OS! :D


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Postby Heavy B » Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:12 pm

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i was watchin impact last night and i noticed somthing, the member of the latino nation had jugs. after some thought i came to the only logical conclusion. the hooded assailent is none other then originol sins wet dream shelly martinez
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Postby Agent 007 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:16 pm

Idk I've been rather bored with wrestling latley. What ever happened to harcore matches? I always enjoyed those. The story lines are just awful, the only reason I would get hyped for Smackdown is if Jeff Hardy was on. My rents are evil and don't have cabel, but I've seen RAW and I'm not too impresssed either. No TLC, no Hardcore wrestling sux now. :-x
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Maybe its time.................

Postby Mighty Scorponok » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:58 pm

To start watching TNA........... better lines. bettter matches.etc..,.
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Re: Maybe its time.................

Postby Robinson » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:52 pm

Mighty Scorponok wrote:To start watching TNA........... better lines. bettter matches.etc..,.


Not really. WcW lite is starting to unravel, hence samoa joes comments at the ppv. Im my opinion Hardcore matches are something that led to the decline in overall wrestling product. You had so many daredevils that came into the scene that didnt have the basic backgrounds and leapfrogged to the spotlight and now the only thing they can do is fly but not put on clinic matches like you used to see.

Here is something I read regarding the latest episode of Impact!.

Richard Reacts - TNA Creative Drops The Ball With Mistake Filled Episode Of iMPACT
Submitted by Richard Gray on December 7, 2007 - 2:16pm.


I can live with a lot of things. Wrestlers no-showing promised appearances, a match that does not live up to expectations, etc; however, one thing in professional wrestling that really gripes me is storylines not making logical sense. Last night’s edition of TNA iMPACT had so many flaws in the booking I felt the only way to clear my frustration was to write about it. The company made so many errors last night I wondered if anyone on the creative team or in upper management is following their own product. This is not intended to be a complete show review but is intended to highlight what I felt like were major mistakes made by TNA Wrestling during last night’s airing of iMPACT.

The show opened with the briefcase winners from the “Feast or Fired” match from Turning Point arriving at iMPACT with their cases. However, the cases ended up in the possession of Jim Cornette where he instructed Matt Morgan to “guard” them. When Morgan let the winners of the cases re-claim possession of them throughout the show, Cornette got pissed off and proclaimed that they are going to end up revealing the contents. First off all it would be nice if they would reveal the contents since I’ve already paid $30 to find out what is in the damn things, but if the wrestlers arrived at the arena with the cases that would mean they have been in possession of them for more three days. If they couldn’t open them earlier in the week, then why is Cornette upset about them having them at the show now? Why did I pay to see this match on PPV when I’ve had to wait until iMPACT and still don’t know what is them? Was Cornette not watching the show earlier when all of the winners arrived with the cases?

TNA actually held a ladder match between Black Machismo Jay Lethal and The Motor City Machine Guns vs. Johnny Devine and Team 3D to see who got possession of the X Division Title. What the %@$%? Jay Lethal is your X DIVISION CHAMPION! He does not have the belt because it was stolen from him. Why does he have to work a match to get a belt that is his back? This made no sense what-so-ever to me. If they wanted to have a ladder match for the X Division title, then have a ladder match for the X Division title. If they want to continue to play up the fact that Team 3D stole the belt, then play up the storyline. But to have a match to see who gets possession of the championship is ridiculous. There are not even words to describe how frustrated this makes me. How is TNA management going sanction a match to see who gets the possession of a stolen belt? Another storyline that makes no logical sense!

The company tried to play off an extremely good Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong match at Turning Point by booking Gail Kim against ODB on last night’s iMPACT. However, they booked it in a way that made no logical sense. TNA had ODB hit Gail Kim with her flask when the referee wasn’t looking, giving ODB the pinfall in the nontitle match. I understood that part but the trick came when Awesome Kong came out and started to beat up on Gail Kim. Kim was already knocked out so why was Kong sent out to further destroy her? Shouldn’t the company have booked their Knockouts Champion over ODB only to have Awesome Kong come out and destroy her while she was celebrating?

The last thing that TNA did on this week’s episode of iMPACT that really got on my nerves was the way that they aligned Samoa Joe, Kevin Nash, Kaz, Booker T, and Eric Young. This made for a good 10 man tag team main event, however, on Turning Point Nash got so mad at Joe that he didn’t even celebrate with him or Young and even refused to sell his spots. On this week’s edition of iMPACT they made it look like Kevin Nash and Samoa Joe were now boyfriends! None of what happened at Turning Point was explained and we were led on to believe that everything is fine between Joe and Nash. Samoa Joe cut such a dramatic promo that it cut the lackluster main event short at Turning Point and TNA did nothing what-so-ever to follow up on it. Why did they waste all of the PPV time with the promo if they weren’t going to play it up? Joe might have gotten carried away but the fact is that he said it and you must play that up! To forget about it makes me feel like I wasted my $30 to hear it in the first place! Talking on a PPV is generally a no-no but when it happens, it better be for a damn good explanation!

I don’t know who it is messing all of this up in TNA, but someone needs to show them the Turning Point pay-per-view and this week’s edition of iMPACT. There was no correlation, no fallout, and several storylines that did not make logical sense. I’m out $30 (as is anyone that ordered Turning Point) and not only did we get two significant no-shows at Turning Point but we still do not know who won the Feast or Fired bout. The company better get their act together because it is stuff like this that is going to chase loyal fans away. We as fans are not stupid and do not deserve to be treated like idiots. Last night’s show seemed like it was booked by someone that had never followed the TNA product.

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Postby Venomous Prime » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:41 am

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Dr. Heavy B wrote:i was watchin impact last night and i noticed somthing, the member of the latino nation had jugs. after some thought i came to the only logical conclusion. the hooded assailent is none other then originol sins wet dream shelly martinez


I've known about it being her for awhile :P
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Postby Heavy B » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:06 pm

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Original Sin wrote:
Dr. Heavy B wrote:i was watchin impact last night and i noticed somthing, the member of the latino nation had jugs. after some thought i came to the only logical conclusion. the hooded assailent is none other then originol sins wet dream shelly martinez


I've known about it being her for awhile :P


then humor me....
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Re: Maybe its time.................

Postby Agent 007 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:13 pm

[/quote]

Not really. WcW lite is starting to unravel, hence samoa joes comments at the ppv. Im my opinion Hardcore matches are something that led to the decline in overall wrestling product. You had so many daredevils that came into the scene that didnt have the basic backgrounds and leapfrogged to the spotlight and now the only thing they can do is fly but not put on clinic matches like you used to see.
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Hardcore matches mad wrestling more interesting, got kinda boreing just watching a bunch on single and tag matches :?
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Triple H Talking Behind Chris Jericho's Back

Postby God Optimus Prime » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:04 pm

Triple H Talking Behind Chris Jericho's Back

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-- At the 11/19 Raw show -- the night in which Chris Jericho returned -- Triple H was joking with a number of the younger wrestlers about how they should be really excited for the next round of house shows. When asked why, he said that there would be nothing but sellouts now that "the savior" has arrived. He also said something similar to Shawn Michaels, telling him that he should work house shows again because Chris Jericho "was back to save wrestling." Michaels didn't really respond to Triple H's comment as he didn't laugh about it nor respond to it negatively. Of course, Triple H was being sarcastic with his comments. He was telling people that Ric Flair's return will mean more money than Jericho's return. Internally, some people believe Triple H's comparison was counterproductive. It was also noted that he never does this sort of stuff at the arena to co-workers, but Jericho of all people got him to do it. If he does, it's only with the inner circle of WWE. On the other hand, Stephanie McMahon was giving the impression at television that she is very supportive of Chris Jericho.


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Postby Heavy B » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:28 am

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soooo. whats the big deal
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