The Energon Pub

[Sledge]

Dude, just highlight what's in the address bar, copy it, then paste it here.

[Liege Evilmus]

Dude, I've tried everything that you offered and thensome. I've seen alot of pairs of bots be sold together, but no 2 pack

Now I wanna believe this because I can remember seeing this long ago, but concerning bots, I've seen lots of things and sometimes the memory skips.

So cut and paste the adressbar(next to the back and forward icons) paste it in the message body, and give us all a treat.

I'm only making an issue of this for your sake cause like my buddy the klingon guy said, there are alot of KO dinobots out there and if your gonna spend the cash, you mine as well do it right.

I just don't wanna see ANYONE get taken for a ride!

[Ironhider]

Does this look genuine because I want to bid on it:

[Ironhider]

Here are some more pics of potential items :

[Ironhider]

And snarl: (sorry I haven't figured how to do multiple pics

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

No I mean there is a two pack on e-bay. Thanks for the picks.

You seem to be new at G1 transformers [if I'm wrong I'm sorry] I just thought you should be warned.......there were no G1 Dinobot two packs ever released by Hasbro.

Now if you ment that a seller is selling two figures you should also take care.....there have been a hudge grouth in the amount of Knock off G1 Dinobot Transformers as of late.Chances are they may not be the real deal.

Swoop is the rarest of all 5 of the Dinobots and I have seen some auctions for a offical one go as high as $300. usd.
The reason is because Swoop's beak was very week and would offthen break from little presher.

If you have friends that know a lot about collecting Transformers you should get their opinion before buying any of them....if you dont post a link to the auctions in question....most of the guys here know how to spot a fake so we could all lend a helping hand.

True on all ot that but the main reason for Swoop being the rarest is that he was never realsed in the UK and maybe the rest of Europe!

I didnt know he wasnt released in the U.K. but I would say that even if he were....there would still be a rareity issue with Swoop becaus he breaks so eazly.There would just be that many more broken onesd out there.

I never played with mine when I was younger and when trew 2 of him in just poseing and fall downs.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

They all look like they may be real one's but without knowing how much the seller is asking and where he's from I cant tell you much more about them.Swoop looks too good in my opinion....I would be carefull with him.

[Ironhider]

There going for about 15 dollars each. I really want sludge

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

There going for about 15 dollars each. I really want sludge

Is that 15 U.S. dollars each?????????Because thats way to low for a real G1 Swoop.Also is that what the seller is asking for them or just what the auction price is right now????
Most ebay sellers star asking for a low price hoping that the result will be a bidding war....driving up the price of the figure at the last few seconds of the auctions time limit.

A near complete opened G1 Swoop that looks as good as that one does should go for no less then $150.00 u.s. dollars.As for the others I wouldnt expact to see them go for less then $35. each.

Iff you can find a way to post the auctions them selfs so that we could better advise you on the auctions....or maybe the sellers user name so we could check the auctions out and his feedback rating.

[Liege Evilmus]

Swoop may be a KO, Sludge looks legit but he's incomplete.

[Ironhider]

I give up. I cant get a link to work

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Ok buddy I think I found the auctions your talking about based on the photes you posted and the prices.

Tell me if these are them

http://cgi.ebay.com/G1-DINOBOT-SLUDGE-T ... dZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/G1-DINOBOT-SNARL-TR ... dZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Transforme ... dZViewItem

Now to give you my opinion...

The Sludge and Snarl auctions may be legit.......it looks to me like the seller started the bid low hoping for a bid war twards the end of the time limit.
But at the same time I'm a bit worried because the seller [who is also selling Grimlock and Slag] has only sold 8 other items [not including these] on ebay.

To me this suggest's that he is ether a new seller or one of so many scam artist that use photo's of G1 figures and sell Knock offs,these guys have been kicked off ebay but find there way back from time to time.

But ether way I never buy G1 Transformers from a ebay seller that has that low a sale's record.

Now on to Swoop.......I dont think this is an offical one.To begin with the seller made a very hard effert to make a point of the fact that the Swoop had a stamp date on the figure that says Hasbro 1984.

Now what many here may or may not know is that the First Dinobots that were boxed in Hasbro Transformers brand box'es were taken from the back stock of the Diaclone toy line from Takara from Japan

The Diaclone toyline from Takara were what the Transformers were based on.The first 3 waves of TF figures were taken from Takara backstock and placed in U.S Hasbor Transformers box'es.All the figures from those waves had a date stamp of Takara 1980/1982 not Hasbro 1984.

There was a wave of Dinobots figurse released with a Hasbro/Takara 1984 stasmp on the back of the figures but the seller didnt mention the Takara name and I cant see why he wouldnt if he were really looking at the figure when he was posting its describtion on the auction.

Also most [if not all] of the Hasbro/Takara 1984 stamped dinobots didnt have a rubsign autobot sticker on them.......Mine from the 80's didnt and the 2 I owen now dont and their from the Hasbro/Takara 1984 stamped wave.

I also have 2 friends that are also collecters and the ones thay have are like mine.

Also this seller is also new to ebay...he/she has only sold 13 other items on ebay and I wouldnt buy a G1 from such a new seller that seems to have not placed all the information in the auction's describtion.

[Ironhider]

Thanks for everything I'm gonna hit the phone book and search for shops. Would a collectors shop or a comic store be more reliable(and reasonable on a price scale.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Thanks for everything I'm gonna hit the phone book and search for shops. Would a collectors shop or a comic store be more reliable(and reasonable on a price scale.

More reliable..........most likly because a buyer can return and cause problems.

Reasonable on price ........nope,most comic store and collecter shops are knowen for over priceing.But it should be safer.Just last week I saw a G1 Swoop at a collecter's shop for $350... bucks and he didnt even have his missiles launchers.

I'm not sure where your from so I cant suggest to you where you can start looking.

With Ebay you need to just becarefull of some of the newer sellers.