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Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:15 am

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Heya everyone.

As some may know, I work for Greek Archaeology during the dry season (it's illegal to excavate during the wet season in Greece).Well, a Toyshop has been built on top of an older gig of mine.I work elsewhere now (can't discuss while it's happening to avoid theft) but I want to share the beauty of this specific excavation, which now has been wiped off the face of the Earth in order to sell Transformers (and other toys).
(The Graveyard excavation section is down the bottom if ya wanna skip to that)
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DISCLAIMER:
Look up Molossia, and you'll find references to a small nation in America.Some guy made his backyard an independant nation and gave it that name.Keep looking and you'll find references to an Ancient Hellenic Kingdom.I'm referring to the Ancient Hellenic Kingdom,not to the American back yard.
Also, in this post, all references to 'Macedon' and 'Macedonia' refers diresctly to the Ancient Hellenic Kingdom of Macedonia.There is confusion over the identity today.The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia,according to their foreign ministry, are "descended of Slavic peoples who in turn are descended from Bulgarian Ancestor-tribes who migrated to the Balkans in the 5th and 6th centuries A.D."Their region was named 'Greater Macedonia' by the Romans and Byzantines, but was known in Yugoslavia as Vardaskar and in Ancient Greece as the City states Paeonia and Pelagonia, which were an enemies of Macedon (search: Archaeological excavations,Hellenic pottery Workshops, University of Texas, Republic of Macedonia,2010,2011).The Bulgarian Province of Macedonia is a Bulgarian trophy of the Balkan Wars.
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Overview:
Molossia means "Lake-land" or "Realm of Lake-sides/shores".In it's day,it was a labyrinth of lakes,Forest and Mountains.The original recorded natives were the Pelasgians, a Group of Proto-Ancient Greek (Mycenean) speakers and a satellite Migration of the Thesprotians and later,early Macedonians and Late Trojans.The Pelasgians established the first ever Oracle,Dodonaia, which is 3 oddkm from the excavation we found in a straight line,or 13km in a straight line from the city center of Ioannina,in Southern Epirus bordering Albania (Ancient Northern Epirus and Illyria).Dodonaia is the oracle that delivered the name 'Hellas' and 'Hellene' to the Ancient Mycenean Diaspora/Proto-Greek world.The most famous King was Pyrrhus, cousin to Alexander the Great of Macedon,of the "Pyrrhic victory".

According to the Anciant Greek historian Strabon, more Ancient Macedonian tribes,dislocated after warring with other groups in the Macedon hearthlands,migrated to and settled in Pelasgia.After the Trojan war, Trojan refugees settled there (Troy,again, was not a Hittite Kingdom as hinted at in the film, but Hellenic-there are records of Trojan refugees migrating to almost every city-state after the sack of Troy).Elements of the Trojan royal family settled into and interbred with the Molossians (one of the 14 major Pelasgo-Macedon descendant tribes)(A.K.A Elukki or Selukki).The Molossians became the dominant force after this.Later, Pyrrhus united all of the surrounding Kingdoms into the Epirot League,now known as Epirus.
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WHAT WE FOUND:
We found an Agroikia(a Wilderness settlement) consisting of several one story buildings, a two story building and a Prehistoric (Pelasgian) Longhouse around,rather than upon which a Molossian Longhouse had been built.(These Longhouses had only 3 walls and a roof.The fourth, facing the sun, was open during Summer and walled with hide during Winter).There were multiple stables, one of which was a semi buried type with a tiled roof that the Archaeologists said was of Norweigan template (?!?)
The settlement existed to provide food for four Acropoli (Military Citadel-Keeps) which existed in the immediate region.The 2 story-building was pretty large,both floors collapsed onto each other.There was a Kiln out the back and a Shop out the front,with scales,some coins and weights for the scales still there.Inside there were some elegant glass perfume bottles (creepy& saddening to find,because we found more in the Graveyard and knew who they belonged to [Daphne]),knives, a sword,limitless amounts of gorgeus pottery,often shattered by the collapsed roof and upper floor and a row of Amphoras taller than a man (they were actually dug halfway into the ground level in order to be accessible!).Under the floor level there were neolithic period stone tools and blades-Pelasgian artefacts from the original longhouse.The Elukki/Selukki (the group between the Pelasgians and Molossians) who had begun building the larger rock walls (The middle Pelasgians used tree beams anchored by rock) had sacrificed Goats and Shep and buried them under almost every cornerstone in the rock walls,sometimes together with the knives and Dakryodochoi (tear-holders): Religion stated that a soul travelling to Hades would get thirsty: A wellspring existed for the soul to drink from, but it was a trap, and if the soul drank, it would go to Limbo, rather than arrive to Cerberus in Hades.The Mourners would trap their tears in Jars, (originally Clay,then Glass) for the thirsty soul to drink.Cerberus would then judge the final destination of the Soul: The Asphodel Meadows,The Elysium Fields or the Pit of Tartarus.
A seriously damaged Clay tablet,in a Hieroglyphic-style sketch,showed a Beautiful young girl being sacrificed. (Some Molossian Kings were married to Ptolemaic Egyptian Princesses-Ptolemy was a General of Alexander the Great who inherited Macedonian Egypt and set up a Greek Dynasty there, of whom Cleopatra was the last (I think).
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The Graveyard:
The original Graveyard was a Pelasgian settlement (we found it underneath).They buried their dead under their homes, but the Selukki and Molossians began to distance themselves from the dead, moving their homes further away and designating official graveyards.
The graveyard/Prehistoric settlement was on the very crest of a long hill surrounded on 2 sides by lake,1 by swamp and a fourth by 2 Sinkholes which drained the valley of water.(considered gateways to Hades then).Directly over the Graveyard, in a straight line, there is another sinkhole on a mountainside.Everything is enclosed by views of mountains.
The graveyard ran from the hill crest down one side to the 2 sinkholes, whislt the settlement ran from just under the crest down the other side facing the fish rich lake and the mountain with the sinkhole on it.The longhouse therefore had its left side facing the graveyard,its back to the swamp and its front and right faces looking at lake.The very right of the longhouse faced the mountain with the Sinkhole on it.The front face of the longhouse had a view of a gap in the mountains where there was the next valley-the valley of the capital of Molossia-Passarona.

On the Crest at the very top of the Graveyard was a Prehistoric power place which had later been converted to an Ancient Greek temple and later still, a Byzantine Church. It had been looted at least 3 times: Once by Romans (who were the ones who had destroyed the Agrikoia circa 160 B.C),By Ottomans around 1400-1500 A.D (we even found spherical ammo here and there in the upper soil from the Greek resistance war), and in the 1960s,by propably Greek teasure hunters who had dug a pit in the ruin with a bulldozer-excavator looking for gold. They destroyed the main building,which had been built from rocks salvaged from the Molossian ruins still peeking above ground) and demolished all the Ancient pottery statues lying under the Christian site (the first statue piece I found was a penis,about 12 metres from the pit, and never found the rest of the body!).All that was left were some decorative Christian walls, built directly on top of some Molossian graves.

The Molossian graves originally located directly under the shadow of the Ancient temple had been dug up and replaced by Early Christian graves (Christians had a prerequisite for being buried inside the holy ground of the Church yard,hence the walls marking the Churchyard out). These people had tin-like metal jewellery.The Ancients who had been dug up had been reburied in one of 3 mass graves (one other was from plague and the third was maybe from a war, and potentially the Roman attack on the settlement.

Directly under the Christian walls were some well preserved Molossian graves.One fellow had a Helmet.
Immediately outside the walls, I was priveleged to find a Sacrificed Bull (Symbol of the royal house of Molossos).This thind was a beast! Curled up where it fell, the priests then burnt the poor guy.His horns were intact and his ribs were so thick there was almost no decay even after 2500 years!!!The bull might have marked a corner of the original Graveyard.

On the very opposite upper corner of the Graveyard, I (yes,Me!!) found an Altar of sacrifice.On it was a BIG knife and a large glass bowl.The Altar faced the Bull and the Glass bowl propably contained his blood, most likely intended to either seal the dead into the hallowed ground or keep hunter spirits away from the spirits of the dead.

The first,upper row of graves were of two types.One was of Molossian family graves, filled with multiple members going back into prehistory (others were totally decayed and either undetectable apart from fertile soil coloring or composing of tiny,fragile bone fragments and nothing more-each time it was opened, the bones of a descendant were collected into a corner to make room for the new arrival).The very, very first had seven members still findable.It was my first ever grave opening,but these folks are my Ancestors so its' a labor of love and discovery.The uppermost,lying down stretched out inhabitant was in a wied position, like his arms were tied behind his back.5 members were around him and our Museum head came out to help us.The dig happened in an Elactrical storm going into the night (it's illegal to leave a discovered grave unfinished & go home due to theft) and we invented a joke about Zeus testing our mettle and character.(Lots of wierd things happened in the graveyard and to the teams in it: One guy found a grave only to have a whilwind appear out of nowhere (yes,REALLY) and knock him over with all his gear.Another guy went to get coffee and had his car slammed into by a lorry and get rolled off the road into the lake).
Anyway, carrying on: So we dig out the grave in the electrical storm, put all the bones and artefacts into transport readiness, leaving a little corner full of Earth.The Museum head tells me "Just clean up the corner and let's get somewhere safe" (cuz we are the highest point on a hilltop in an electrical storm) and I get into the grave and quickly clear away the dirt in the corner, which I assume is too little to hold a mass of old bones.
I'ts dusk.
I dig feverishly,on my knees INSIDE an artefact free grave, waiting at any second to gt killed by ferocious Molossian lighting.
A ball of something rolls onto my lap.
I look.
Lightning flashes.
It's a Human Jawbone and teeth in a ball of soggy dirt.
My great great great great great great great great Grandmas' Jaw.
"Did he just scream like a girl?"Heheh.

There was another 'floor' under the grave as well,and in the ones surrounding it.

Interspersed with these were some proto-Christian/Proto Byzantine/Late Roman period graves.

Moving further down the slope, we come to couples, Lone old timers and lone young adults.Some were young men killed in combat.One, nicknamed 'Tilemachus' (he who battles from afar), had his head next to his knee, with the coin to pay the styx ferryman in his mouth.
Next to him was a teenage girl-named Angelique by us,and beside her,the first non Christian grave to be found out of row, was her mum, nicknamed 'Daphne' (short for "Den Aphino to paidei mu" ["I won't leave my child"]}.Daph had 'pretty',pointy Jawbone ,a pretty necklace and matching bracelet.This Beautiful womans' teeth had been greened out by the copper coin in her mouth.
Her daughter,Angie, was the first grave I was allowed to supervise.She was around 15 or so,killed by illness.There were more than 12 tear holders in her grave, 11 were glass and 1 was clay (even the poorest family had cried for this child and left their tears to guide her).She had 2 glass rings on her fingers, a 'Phenecian' glass amulet with a spiral on it to trap evil spirits, pottery, and a gargantuan coin in her mouth from Athens,depicting Zeus and an Eagle.The coin was already 200 years old-a family heirloom, before she had died.

Just beyond Angie and Daph were two lovers-Malaperdas (A handsome tall man) and Sophie-Helena (a stocky,pretty Tween and possibly an Apothecary/Healer), after whom was the mass plague grave.This had People,pottery,furniture,horses,mules,Dogs (search:Molossian Hunting & War hound) in a big,burnt jumble.The underlayers of Earth were Yellow clay and then red clay, and the grave was deep and wide.Impossible to sort out.The clay would not relinquish its' charges:Sudden summer rains had given over to the 2007 Heatwave, baking the clay.Our tools would snap, so we used knives. Thus, we made up another joke: Hades will not relinquish the dead back to their living descendants without one final knife strike.

In the dead center of the graveyard was another, deluxe altar of sacrifice.My team didn't find this one, but found every grave I mentioned so far and the first Altar.
This Altar had the leg of either a Pig,Boar or goat on it (I never heard the result from the labs).Next to it, a Knife, and with them a Tear holder.Yes,the Priestess (we nicknamed her "Arete") had wept for the sacrifice to find its way to Hades.
Speculation on the meaning of the sacrifice was mind blowing: the leg was meant to walk first on the underworld journey, to step in the traps meant for the Human souls.
It was underneath all of this that the Prehistoric homes were found.These were simple pits covered with branches in an igloo shape.In one side was dug out a fireplace and the other a storage hole.The floors were littered with ancient stone blades and other tools,one-use but still extremely sharp even today!

After this altar began the Childrens section: there were,like 2 dead to every 3 born.
The bigger kids were further up the slope and the infants at the very bottom.The Infant graves were beyond counting,and barely 2 handspans across at times.
The last two graves I watched opened in the 2007 season were those of two siblings, "Haritomeni" (The cheerful one) a girl about 8 years old, and "Bubu" ("Junior/Little guy") about 4 or 5, and almost not there at all except for dust.

In 2008 the weather turned bad and we covered up the graveyard for the settlement,finding several cottages and a wierd LONG rock wall that ran from the lake to the Ancient temple for no discernible reason.A hastily built fortification agaist the Romans, built too late and left incomplete?

In 2009, we returned to the temple to excavate around it.My team dug out the walls and the graves under them in that year.At the end of 2009 I had to depart to do my Conscription in the Greek army (another awesome adventure!) and the Archeological Museum of Ioqannina was opened, featuring stuff Ipulled out of the grave, primarily from Angies grave, but also Daphs' perfume bottles,Sophie-Helenas assumed cure flasks and Hecates' (assumably Aretes' old school Shamaness Grandmum) Bull-blood bowl.See how the womenfolk get all the attention?Heheh.(Weaponry and armor is on display from other sites which were more protected from the elements.There are also more than 200 metalfoil and gold foil tablets on display from the Dodonaia oracle with questions etched on one side by pilgrims and answers on the other by the Priests of the Oracle.There's also a whole section regarding prehistoric tools and another on Ancient coins.

During 2009/2010, whilst I was in the army,an IKEA and a Jumbo (greek version of Toys R us) have been built in the perimetry of the Ancient settlement.The settlement itself is covered by a joint parking.
The Ancient Pelasgian hill has been dug out about 15 metres down in the developed section.Gouged out and heartbreaking to see, since the Battle of Byzani was fought partly on the hill later in Greek history..The graveyard and half the Pelasgian igloo-settlement are gone forever (but all the dead are in storage in the Museum and at a nearby army base).The Church/Temple is still there (illegal to remove) on a crest at the top of the dugout, and the buildings have been covered up with eco-material,filled in and covered with prefabricated tin roofs.Their locations are recorded by GPS co-ordinates.There was supposed to be a Multiplex built on the sight but the Greek govt.outlawed anything other than a parking lot built over the Agrikia for accessibility reasons of this heritage sight.

I used to dig 2 to 3 metres into the Earth to extract my Ancestors, promising each one, as I removed them from their graves a bone at a time, that I was loyal, that they would go to a good home,that I would be what they expect of me.
Now, I journey 15 metres under the original location of their graves,together with my wife,whom I met during that particular excavation, to buy my Transformers.
Is it a gift from, my Ancestors?
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby Didicos » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:42 am

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This is a really interesting story. I guess that your findings must be of a great archaeological value. I'm just wondering how the construction company took the necessary licenses to build in a place full of archaeological findings. :???:

Mektek Smoketreader wrote:I used to dig 2 to 3 metres into the Earth to extract my Ancestors, promising each one, as I removed them from their graves a bone at a time, that I was loyal, that they would go to a good home,that I would be what they expect of me.
Now, I journey 15 metres under the original location of their graves,together with my wife,whom I met during that particular excavation, to buy my Transformers.
Is it a gift from, my Ancestors?


Don't forget that, according to Super-God Masterforce, TF:Cybertron, TF:Prime etc, our ancestors were at least aware of TransFormers..! ;)
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:49 am

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Didicos wrote:This is a really interesting story. I guess that your findings must be of a great archaeological value. I'm just wondering how the construction company took the necessary licenses to build in a place full of archaeological findings. :???:

Don't forget that, according to Super-God Masterforce, TF:Cybertron, TF:Prime etc, our ancestors were at least aware of TransFormers..! ;)


Hahaha.Quite true!
Well, I'll tell you this: when you dig these people out of the ground, you know it's a sacred experience.When you do it every day, in the silence of nature,interacting only with them, you begin to dream of them, and even just *know* some things about them when you are awake.When you see the facial similarities between them and your family,and just strangers in the street,it becomes 200 times as sacred.You know these are Ancestors.I have no reason to assume that they couldn't see or dream of us as well, considering these people are the extended DNA tree of the first Oracle in the world during a time when it wasn't a sin to excercise the minds' eye.If they could see me in my home, then they could see the Transformers on my shelf.They wouldn't know they were toys, but would defenitely know they were 'statues' of some type,and represented a group (like a Pantheon) of which I would need all present to establish their concept of my version of Feng Shui.


As for the developers getting the licence:They paid for the excavation!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Luckily, the backers are Saudi ;) (No joke, they actually are!!)

There's always an Archaeologist present at building sites,especially on the big roads.(there are 14 excavations on the roadside of the New Athens -to-Patra highway going only from Corinth to Patra on one side.I counted them on the bus!.If the find is Minor, it just gets collected,photographed and built on.If it's minor with a major find,the construction can still happen but the Major find must remain on display,usually visible through a fibreglass wall or floor (you'll see it in restaurants a lot).If the find is Major,it becomes an Archaeological 'Reservartion': (Basically, it gets confiscated by the government and converted into a public display, and listed as heritage so touching it is the equivalent of a War Crime).The option for the landowner to fund the dig is always presented.

The best way to get something back from a major find is to pay for the excavation privately,which Ikea and Jumbo did for 4 years in total (the rest dropped out),paying for 4 Archaeologists,2 Anthopologists,1 Sketch Artist,2 Topographers, 1 'representative' to bring us tools and equipment that we ordered and 40 workers! (The Army donated the toolshed,which was a meat-fridge container :-$ ).(Also note there are about 12 govt. paid staff at a local Army base (donated space) and about 50 more Museum laboratory staff working on the finds as well as endless lines of Uni Student volunteers.
By myself,I wore out 8 Pickaxes (I kept the last one,whom I have named Spinthiras because he spits sparks everywhere.He's a family heirloom now, but used him one last time the day before my wedding to plant Roses in the Village Churchyard with my Sister & her Hubby),about 24 Skarpela (Don't know to translate) 1 Incredible Hulk Toothbrush (for brushing dry clay off bones), 5 Brooms (used to sweep sand off sand :roll: , a Sculpting kit (for picking away at fine detail)and 2 Hoes.I also flattened the tyres of 3 Wheelbarrows.Heheh.

Funny Joke:
I was digging out Hecates grave and the Museum head had given orders that due to the Heatwave we all worked under beach Umbrellas.The Umbrella I had was pissing me off because it was rubbish from Jumbo and kept falling over,so I moved it away.2 Guys on my team were sitting around under it talking about "300" (in front of 2 pretty Archaeology volunteer students from the University) and refusing to work in the sun (because the girls were hanging with us in the umbrella shade too!).We (the guys) were taking turns insulting each other in front of the girls (as guys will:each of us was single then).
I was telling them "You're babies-you should be ashamed of your Pubic hair if you're afraid of sunlight and sweat-what would the Spartans say if they saw you now, hiding from sunlight in front of two women?".(I was the team boss).
One guy says "At least we can fight the Sunlight from under the shade (a reference to the Famous Spartan Quote about the Clouds of Persian arrows blocking out the sun)".
I march over, throw the Umbrella away and say "Shade is for Spartans!"
(Heh heh heh Mrph heh!)


Originally, it was going to be 2 towers (1 with Jumbo & a MegaKotsovolos & 1 with an Ikea and a Carrefour) linked by a bridge with 50 specialty shops,and crowned with a niteclub,Cinema and revolving Restaurant.Now it's a giant parking lot with a (Gargantuan) shop at each corner.

The beauty of it all is that it's directly opposite Vrellis' Wax Museum.(The Museum is built on the side of the mountain with the sinkhole in it).Unfortunately, but intriguingly,Pavlos Vrellis died about the same week that the Ikea & Jumbo opened.
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby Godzillabot Primal » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:38 am

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Are you sure it wasn’t a Quintesson grave? Did you see any multi-faced statues? The figures could’ve been prototypes of there creations! And they are actually real Transformers!
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:44 pm

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godzillabot wrote:Are you sure it wasn’t a Quintesson grave? Did you see any multi-faced statues? The figures could’ve been prototypes of there creations! And they are actually real Transformers!


I didn't find any multi-faced statues, but the remains in the mass graves were all mashed together and could have contained a quintesson.

On the other hand, whenever the cooks in the army served meat (or stuff that looked like meat) and I asked what it was, they uniformly replied "Godzilla". Needless to say I became a salad lover.
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby Godzillabot Primal » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:14 am

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Mektek Smoketreader wrote:
godzillabot wrote:Are you sure it wasn’t a Quintesson grave? Did you see any multi-faced statues? The figures could’ve been prototypes of there creations! And they are actually real Transformers!


I didn't find any multi-faced statues, but the remains in the mass graves were all mashed together and could have contained a quintesson.

On the other hand, whenever the cooks in the army served meat (or stuff that looked like meat) and I asked what it was, they uniformly replied "Godzilla". Needless to say I became a salad lover.


Meat in the army is called Godzilla? Anyway this is both horrifying and interesting, horrifying as in these ruins being destroyed for a toy shop, and interesting in the fact that the sheer irony that a toy shop that contains TF’s has been built on top of another great civilizations building!


And yes I’m a veg-man to!
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:41 am

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godzillabot wrote:
Mektek Smoketreader wrote:
godzillabot wrote:Are you sure it wasn’t a Quintesson grave? Did you see any multi-faced statues? The figures could’ve been prototypes of there creations! And they are actually real Transformers!


I didn't find any multi-faced statues, but the remains in the mass graves were all mashed together and could have contained a quintesson.

On the other hand, whenever the cooks in the army served meat (or stuff that looked like meat) and I asked what it was, they uniformly replied "Godzilla". Needless to say I became a salad lover.


Meat in the army is called Godzilla? Anyway this is both horrifying and interesting, horrifying as in these ruins being destroyed for a toy shop, and interesting in the fact that the sheer irony that a toy shop that contains TF’s has been built on top of another great civilizations building!

And yes I’m a veg-man to!


Yup, military meat goes by that name,'cuz it's REALLY old and inexhaustable.We get Tetanus shots on day 1.*LOL*

The below text is typed up at length intentionally for sake of point.Please consider reading all.I know my texts are long already:

As for the sadness of it all, ruins (in the Middle East,Central & North Africa and Europe-I won't speak for other continents) have consistently been destroyed to make way for 'the next egotism' as we say here.Heaps of cartouches in Egypt alone were universally destroyed by successor kings attempting to erase previous Kingdoms or Dynasties.
In Europe,it's extremely difficult to find a Christian Church (Catholic or Orthodox,won't speak for others) which wasn't built on top of a Pagan temple,which in turn wasn't built on top of a Prehistoric Power-place.

There's a bright-side way to see it all: The Pelasgians succeeded on this Hilltop long enough to yield successful Elukki/Selukki,then Molossian (there was another tribe in between,'cuz the Elukki yielded 14 major Clan groups.I think they were the Paroraoi (pAr-ur-Eii) in the Byzani region but must doublecheck),then Byzantine (Byzani)and now Epirot descendants.It's what they would have wanted (survivable descendants).The 'Rhea/Gaia' religion hill which originally welcomed and preserved the Mycenean ancestors of the Pelasgians long enough to yield us,today, is totally obliterated after everything it contributed to the arrival of my generation,but consider this:

During the Athens Olympic games,the official Mascot was a tooned-up version of a childrens toy found at an excavation:This was considered,internationally,to be a dumb & 'ugly' mascot,but it is in fact the oldest doll found (intact) in Greece.

Bearing in mind that in Olympianism (the religion,based on the mountain structure) one must climb perpetually,in a world where all others are also climbing[*1],but cannot succeed unless he pauses 'to plataeu',(then climb again in order to 'plataeu' again,and continue until he becomes a God or falls to his mortal death) then the Toy Doll is the first way for a young Olympian (religious/lifestyle version) to learn the conceptuality of how his body must be understood of to deliver him to the final plataeu. Because whatever body he has,it's all he's got to work with.Every other instrument that can help must be fetched or created by his body.Beyond that,he comes in alone and he goes in alone.

Today,the Gaia/Rhea 'Manna' religion is ignored by people unless it's a Uni fad or a mid-life crisis refuge,but it does get remembered and studied when the body is ready to pay attention,which might be better than just brushing over it in school and then forgetting about it.

Toys & games,however,are vital for Human development today (no life form ever stops playing,not adult predators,nor adult prey.Even creatures that hibernate half their lives still play in their dreams),and Jumbo advertises 10,000 toys from all around the world.This is a worthwhile gift,even if it's one that the Pelasgians may never have considered to leave behind (and there is a trap-field to navigate even when shopping for toys just like in any other 'jungle',thereby excercising the mind of the parent before excercising that of the child).Toy Companies are a different story to what a child does with a toy,and toy Marketers and annual sales structurers are not the same as toy Builders or designers).

Next door,the Ikea helps young couples furnish their homes in preparation for raising families (even tho miles of forest must be wiped out for this to happen,but maybe every generation needs a situation to confront for the seed to stay viable-today,we are working together at the clumsy,childish Jusassic level of globalization, and I like to hope our descendants will get a feelgood chuckle out of it rather than detest us).

[*1]There is no 'edge'-everyone is consistently improving.Instead.there are 12 major options and hundreds of minor options as to selecting a dominant aspect/attitude to go with (The Gods & Nature-spirits).Each one attitude was considered a channelable force of nature,like the Mystical elements today (Earth,fire,wind,water,spirit,void) and each was a trap because it had a naturally 'immune' opposite.Hotswapping was fine,but by doing so there was the permanent risk of offending the governing lorekeeper (God)of the previous adopted attitude.
(Kind of reminds me of a game of Yugioh,actually...)
"Everyone has a hobby.Even people who say they don't still have one under another name.If we're sick,injured, we still go to it and get down to see how it is.If it needs something, we bring it,make sure the attention is perfect.It exercises our care and protection and gives us back philosophies.It's a living thing to us,and is the most perfect way to teach a young person how to be towards a living thing. It's something that should never be taken away."
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby Godzillabot Primal » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:42 am

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Mektek Smoketreader wrote:
godzillabot wrote:
Mektek Smoketreader wrote:
godzillabot wrote:Are you sure it wasn’t a Quintesson grave? Did you see any multi-faced statues? The figures could’ve been prototypes of there creations! And they are actually real Transformers!


I didn't find any multi-faced statues, but the remains in the mass graves were all mashed together and could have contained a quintesson.

On the other hand, whenever the cooks in the army served meat (or stuff that looked like meat) and I asked what it was, they uniformly replied "Godzilla". Needless to say I became a salad lover.


Meat in the army is called Godzilla? Anyway this is both horrifying and interesting, horrifying as in these ruins being destroyed for a toy shop, and interesting in the fact that the sheer irony that a toy shop that contains TF’s has been built on top of another great civilizations building!

And yes I’m a veg-man to!


Yup, military meat goes by that name,'cuz it's REALLY old and inexhaustable.We get Tetanus shots on day 1.*LOL*

The below text is typed up at length intentionally for sake of point.Please consider reading all.I know my texts are long already:

As for the sadness of it all, ruins (in the Middle East,Central & North Africa and Europe-I won't speak for other continents) have consistently been destroyed to make way for 'the next egotism' as we say here.Heaps of cartouches in Egypt alone were universally destroyed by successor kings attempting to erase previous Kingdoms or Dynasties.
In Europe,it's extremely difficult to find a Christian Church (Catholic or Orthodox,won't speak for others) which wasn't built on top of a Pagan temple,which in turn wasn't built on top of a Prehistoric Power-place.

There's a bright-side way to see it all: The Pelasgians succeeded on this Hilltop long enough to yield successful Elukki/Selukki,then Molossian (there was another tribe in between,'cuz the Elukki yielded 14 major Clan groups.I think they were the Paroraoi (pAr-ur-Eii) in the Byzani region but must doublecheck),then Byzantine (Byzani)and now Epirot descendants.It's what they would have wanted (survivable descendants).The 'Rhea/Gaia' religion hill which originally welcomed and preserved the Mycenean ancestors of the Pelasgians long enough to yield us,today, is totally obliterated after everything it contributed to the arrival of my generation,but consider this:

During the Athens Olympic games,the official Mascot was a tooned-up version of a childrens toy found at an excavation:This was considered,internationally,to be a dumb & 'ugly' mascot,but it is in fact the oldest doll found (intact) in Greece.

Bearing in mind that in Olympianism (the religion,based on the mountain structure) one must climb perpetually,in a world where all others are also climbing[*1],but cannot succeed unless he pauses 'to plataeu',(then climb again in order to 'plataeu' again,and continue until he becomes a God or falls to his mortal death) then the Toy Doll is the first way for a young Olympian (religious/lifestyle version) to learn the conceptuality of how his body must be understood of to deliver him to the final plataeu. Because whatever body he has,it's all he's got to work with.Every other instrument that can help must be fetched or created by his body.Beyond that,he comes in alone and he goes in alone.

Today,the Gaia/Rhea 'Manna' religion is ignored by people unless it's a Uni fad or a mid-life crisis refuge,but it does get remembered and studied when the body is ready to pay attention,which might be better than just brushing over it in school and then forgetting about it.

Toys & games,however,are vital for Human development today (no life form ever stops playing,not adult predators,nor adult prey.Even creatures that hibernate half their lives still play in their dreams),and Jumbo advertises 10,000 toys from all around the world.This is a worthwhile gift,even if it's one that the Pelasgians may never have considered to leave behind (and there is a trap-field to navigate even when shopping for toys just like in any other 'jungle',thereby excercising the mind of the parent before excercising that of the child).Toy Companies are a different story to what a child does with a toy,and toy Marketers and annual sales structurers are not the same as toy Builders or designers).

Next door,the Ikea helps young couples furnish their homes in preparation for raising families (even tho miles of forest must be wiped out for this to happen,but maybe every generation needs a situation to confront for the seed to stay viable-today,we are working together at the clumsy,childish Jusassic level of globalization, and I like to hope our descendants will get a feelgood chuckle out of it rather than detest us).

[*1]There is no 'edge'-everyone is consistently improving.Instead.there are 12 major options and hundreds of minor options as to selecting a dominant aspect/attitude to go with (The Gods & Nature-spirits).Each one attitude was considered a channelable force of nature,like the Mystical elements today (Earth,fire,wind,water,spirit,void) and each was a trap because it had a naturally 'immune' opposite.Hotswapping was fine,but by doing so there was the permanent risk of offending the governing lorekeeper (God)of the previous adopted attitude.
(Kind of reminds me of a game of Yugioh,actually...)


Yes you do have a point MS, thanks for posting this!
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby G1 Smoketreader » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:33 pm

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Another joke from the dig:

A person with glasses is a primitive Cyborg.
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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby Godzillabot Primal » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:35 pm

Motto: "Roll out!"
Mektek Smoketreader wrote:Another joke from the dig:

A person with glasses is a primitive Cyborg.


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Re: Transformers for sale on Ancient Molossian graveyard.(Article,Field report,True story,Long read).

Postby Godzillabot Primal » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:35 pm

Motto: "Roll out!"
Mektek Smoketreader wrote:Another joke from the dig:

A person with glasses is a primitive Cyborg.


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