The Energon Pub

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:36 pm

I've had an idea for an inclusion of Actionmasters into the game and the possible use of some ofthe robotmode icons.

Why not make a tactic class called Actionmaster? Right now if you want a Actionmaster, you are very badly penalised for it, as there are no tactics. This tactic class, instead of having 2 (or 3 if it gets implimented) tactics, it'd have one stat that dose the same as the robot mode did (ie .5 extra of the chosen stat per point in that tactic) plus it would have a 'weapon tactic' (which would represent the transformable weapons the Actionmasters had) which would have a weakened version of one of the existing tactic.

The precise robot mode chosen would reflect the stat and tactic used (ie one can have improved str and ramming weapon, another can have int and a medical weapon, etc).

As far as I see it, all the conde needed either exists or has been used recently, so surly it cannot take too much to impliment, and it finally stops Actionmasters (which were suposed to be more powerful) being the weak link of the game.

Well that's my idea, does anybody think it merits further thought?

by **slip** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:47 pm

As long as you mean as a point to giving a tacticless alt tactics through the robot mode function we use to have. As long as it keeps the balance of the stsat ie not over ten.
That's cool.

by **Tammuz** » Thu May 29, 2008 8:55 pm

i've never seen actionmasters as the weak link in the chain, if it wasn't for stun or strafes stupid double effectiveness, they'd be quite good, if you put all the upgrades you have in tactics elsewhere you end up being quite a tough bot for your level, granted its a lot more expensive, and a lot slower at gaining levels.

and yeah stats>10=bad

News Credits: 1 · by **Jeep?** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:04 am

No, stats over ten are bad, mmkay.

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Fri May 30, 2008 1:52 pm

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing robot modes as nothing more than
something to customize out team members look. They don't have to even
do anything but look good.

News Credits: 1 · by **Jeep?** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:24 pm

That's what I've been saying since they were first conceived, they just need to be an extra little aesthetic element.

by **Black Eyes** » Fri May 30, 2008 4:25 pm

I'm with JP and Discharge. At least put them back in for aesthetic reasons ;;)

But what would be even better is if instead of boosting stats they offered some sort of ressistances like reducing stun effects or strafe damage.

by **Tammuz** » Fri May 30, 2008 7:08 pm

or we could just nerf stun and strafe like we need to, and still get aesthetic robot modes

by **Black Eyes** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:16 pm

Tammuz wrote:or we could just nerf stun and strafe like we need to, and still get aesthetic robot modes

Yeah but thats no fun

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Fri May 30, 2008 9:06 pm

Tammuz wrote:or we could just nerf stun and strafe like we need to, and still get aesthetic robot modes

I think a special weapon must be implemented for Tammuz: Nerf Guns

by **Tammuz** » Fri May 30, 2008 11:50 pm

nerf this!
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... on_id=3936

Look at the bottom 3 cons there, barely any xp. each one got rammed and then didn't make a further contribution to the mission at all, they may aswell have been Iron botting or OHKed for the good they did you, the cons should have that, they had equal levels, and a number advantage over the preds who had no strafers

News Credits: 6 · by **City Commander** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:36 am

I wish I'd thought of it before!

Requested nerf guns.
Lower end stats, cos I really want one now :lol:

As for masters in hmw; I'm always up for them. I'd love to have the option to make one of my cons an actionmaster, or targetmaster, or headmaster etc etc....

News Credits: 1 · by **Jeep?** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:56 am

You already do have the option to make actionmasters.

by **Tammuz** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:04 am

just don't give them an alt mode

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:46 am

Jeep! wrote:You already do have the option to make actionmasters.

Yeah, but as they stand, they suck harder than the origanal AM toys.

By the time you have *FINALLY* got a build that is consistent and high scoring for it's level, you could have a build with tactics that is 1 or 2 levels higher and reguarly scoreing a LOT more xp.

by **Tammuz** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:05 am

Redimus wrote:
Jeep! wrote:You already do have the option to make actionmasters.

Yeah, but as they stand, they suck harder than the origanal AM toys.

By the time you have *FINALLY* got a build that is consistent and high scoring for it's level, you could have a build with tactics that is 1 or 2 levels higher and reguarly scoreing a LOT more xp.

this is true

but red you(and me) are both of the beleif that we need to ge to the next level ASAP, we're both quite competent when it comes to making our teams energon profitable and both high-level (and why we have alot of medics), at lower levels AM's are deadly as sustain and solarcat will tell you, as energon generators they're pretty damn good as they will pump out alot more damage and sustain alot less damage,

and when the tactics get nerfed, and the stats get made better, AM's will gain a lot of power.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:19 am

Tammuz wrote:nerf this!
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... on_id=3936

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... on_id=6023

Backlash is possible with ram (8 str. vs 10 str. ram)

by **Tammuz** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:32 am

right chaoslock try to get it into your head that the problem with ram is stun.

when you don't stun ram is ok

so thank you you've proved my point that ram needs nerfing

:APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 2 · by **-Soundwave-** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:26 pm

Action masters Rock! and I'd still have one if it weren't got those meddling kids.. .

well really at level 5. things get really expensive, and Omega's XP limit so we don't have level bullies, at 10 mil XP it forces you to level 6, and even with UNneeded up grades like INT, you don't have the XP to get to level 6. That hurts, so I picked an alt so I could at least have the proper number of upgrades at that level

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:05 pm

Tammuz wrote:
Redimus wrote:
Jeep! wrote:You already do have the option to make actionmasters.

Yeah, but as they stand, they suck harder than the origanal AM toys.

By the time you have *FINALLY* got a build that is consistent and high scoring for it's level, you could have a build with tactics that is 1 or 2 levels higher and reguarly scoreing a LOT more xp.

this is true

but red you(and me) are both of the beleif that we need to ge to the next level ASAP, we're both quite competent when it comes to making our teams energon profitable and both high-level (and why we have alot of medics), at lower levels AM's are deadly as sustain and solarcat will tell you, as energon generators they're pretty damn good as they will pump out alot more damage and sustain alot less damage,

and when the tactics get nerfed, and the stats get made better, AM's will gain a lot of power.

To be honest, Im not convinced. Yes she used to score **** loads more than I did, but she also used to be around a level above me, even as an actionmaster. She could have had those actionmasters at a higher level still, and I believe would have scored a lot more xp overall as a result.