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Liege Evilmus wrote:Autobot420 wrote:idiot45 wrote:Seriously, they keep adding lame super villians.
Whats next.
The easter bunny of doom, fairy tooth taker?!
Come on.
They may suck but they're necessary that way when the Decepticons do show up they will actually seem like a credible threat instead of looking like pansies like in all the recent series.
So let me get this straight...
You need a daisy tossing 5yr old on a flying My Little Pony, to let you know Decepticons are bad!?!
I can't believe I'm saying this, but lay off that toy in your sig!
I can understand them wanting to add human villans, but thats no reason why they can't make them good!
And don't pull that line that you did with Nekoman here. I've spent alot of money on Transformers in my life. I will watch it because I'm a fan of the franchise and feel it's both my right and resposibilty to both point out the flaws and encourge the pros in hopes of things getting better.
shortround wrote:To bad if you didn't see sound and fury today because they won't be repeating it tomorrow unstead they will be running an all day pokemon diamond and Pearl marathon leading up to latest t.v. movie. Which total sucks because I was looking forward to seeing this episode again.
Cannabis Prime wrote:I didn't know a super-sonic jet could park on the grass like that!
Caboose wrote:Time is not made out of lines! Time is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round!
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Moonbase2 wrote:I just watched this. I had some interuption (Wiggles playing right next to me to keep the babies happy) but overall I liked it. Soundwave is a favorite so I was looking forward to it. Only problem is, once they introduce a new character who knows if we'll ever see them again. Starscream? Dinobots? Now Soundwave? I haven't looked at all the episode synopses but I really hope they will go back to these characters, all fan favorites, that they bothered to introduce.
That said, who doesn't like Soundwave? He was his usual awesome self, even if he started out as kind of a lame-o at first. As for the Pretty Princess, I ain't going there. It was stupid, but pretty forgettable.
Blurrz wrote:Down_Shift is a god...
Meverix wrote:I didn't like this episode so much... I'm not sure exactly why but...
The Princess thing at the beginning threw me off. I wondered if I'd missed an episode. It was totally... 'why?'
And Soundwave... Okay, so I know I'm one of those "ITS NOT G1" guys, but I'm starting to see the appeal. I'm used to Soundwave being Megatron's lapdog, at his heel, obedient and silent and deadly and calculating... This Soundwave? Talked to much, and his voice was too high for me. I'd have loved a deep, booming voice under that flange. It's also hard for me to stomach that he's not a Cybertronian. Same with the Dinobots, I don't really like that half the cast are being made on earth. It kinda kills the Alien concept. I mean yes, its using Megatron's technology but thats not the same, is it? I just like it when bots come in with history, and Soundwave is cold and calculating enough that the Autobots would have enough to respect and fear.
As for him turning all Pied Piper on the machines... What? I know he's not much of a fighter himself, despite his shoulder rocket, but that just kinda... And his position as a 'freedom fighter' for the other robots kinda misaligns his character in the series. This position, to me, was too new and uncessecary. Not that it didn't make sense or was 'silly' in any way. Sci-Fi would make that plausable. But still...
Ah, someone make me like this episode, I feel like I should
Autobot420 wrote:Meverix wrote:I didn't like this episode so much... I'm not sure exactly why but...
The Princess thing at the beginning threw me off. I wondered if I'd missed an episode. It was totally... 'why?'
And Soundwave... Okay, so I know I'm one of those "ITS NOT G1" guys, but I'm starting to see the appeal. I'm used to Soundwave being Megatron's lapdog, at his heel, obedient and silent and deadly and calculating... This Soundwave? Talked to much, and his voice was too high for me. I'd have loved a deep, booming voice under that flange. It's also hard for me to stomach that he's not a Cybertronian. Same with the Dinobots, I don't really like that half the cast are being made on earth. It kinda kills the Alien concept. I mean yes, its using Megatron's technology but thats not the same, is it? I just like it when bots come in with history, and Soundwave is cold and calculating enough that the Autobots would have enough to respect and fear.
As for him turning all Pied Piper on the machines... What? I know he's not much of a fighter himself, despite his shoulder rocket, but that just kinda... And his position as a 'freedom fighter' for the other robots kinda misaligns his character in the series. This position, to me, was too new and uncessecary. Not that it didn't make sense or was 'silly' in any way. Sci-Fi would make that plausable. But still...
Ah, someone make me like this episode, I feel like I should
Well Meverix don't feel bad about not liking the episode, no one said you had to. If you don't like it, you don't like it. No one should make you like any episode. I love TF:A however I haven't liked every episode. So don't sweat not liking this I'm sure another one will come along that you will like. Also if you remember in the G1 show the Dinobots were created on earth just like in animated.
Meverix wrote:Damn, how did I forget about the Dinobots?
Black Bumblebee wrote:The bit with the Professor Princess makes sense when you take the episode theme as a whole: toys.
The whole episode, while it served as an introduction to Soundwave, was also commentary on toys from start to finish.
First, you have Sari and Bulkhead looking in a toy shop, talking about birthday presents. Then you get the girl on a pony attacking them, as she puts it, to "save them from violent toys."
Hello? Social commentary anyone? You betcha. Boys toys have often been criticized for being too violent. Remember how when Beast Machines was bought by Fox, they insisted that the heroes not be allowed to use guns, as "it might send the wrong message." Bleh.
However, the cartoon obviously doesn't agree with this line of thinking. What they are saying, through the use of this character, is that if you take the "violence" aspect from toys, what you end up with is sickingly stupid toddler riding a My Little Pony.
Next, we get to Sari's birthday party, where, we find out that she has no friends. Notice that this point is NOT resolved. Why? Because she pays them no attention. She doesn't want them there, they don't want to be there.
Sparkplug, her last present, is also brought up. He is a toy that has been abandoned.
And then we move on to her big birthday present, "Soundwave," who, let's face it, is presented as a child's toy.
Barney, the purple dinosaur, is shown, and the writers have Sari attacking it.
Sari enjoys her new toy alot, but, just like her human friends, she begins to pay more attention to it rather than her real friends. Like, for example, how some kids will pay more attention to playing video games, or similar things, than their real life friends.
Sari then uses something which is NOT a toy for an improper purpose: upgrading her toy to do more. This shows that she really can't distinguish between things that are toys and things which are not (possible commentary on children not being able to distinguish between toys and guns?). Even when reminded and warned, she still uses the key and all hell breaks loose.
Soundwave could very well have become an Autobot when he became self aware, but Sari's treatment of machines (even though she is friends with sentient ones) is more than likely a key factor as to the development of Soundwave's personality--something, you must remember, that Megatron was NOT responsible for.
This episode is a fun one, not only for its G1 nods and humor, but for the amount of analysis that one can do on the actual writing.
Moonbase2 wrote:That said, who doesn't like Soundwave? He was his usual awesome self, even if he started out as kind of a lame-o at first.
Duke of Luns wrote:Wow. I could easily say that your reading too much into a children's TV show or something like that, but like any good nerd, looking for a deeper meaning to things is always fun. Also, your points are well thought out and quite valid, good job.
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