The Energon Pub

[Saber Prime]

OK here's an obvious mistake, well actully 2 mistakes in one.

In the episode Rush Thundercracker is transforming but he shouts out "Starscream Transform" Not only is this a mistake but then the same sequence is imediatly played again and he again calls himself Starscream. This isn't like he Transforms then transforms back they literally play the same sequence one right after another. they literally play the same sequence one right after another.

[G1 Blaster]

That's because Cybertron was not very good at all. If they hadn't tried to make it tie into Armada/Energon and simply translated Galaxy Force, they could have spent more time not making ass mistakes like that.

[Saber Prime]

That's because Cybertron was not very good at all. If they hadn't tried to make it tie into Armada/Energon and simply translated Galaxy Force, they could have spent more time not making ass mistakes like that.

You mean they tried to tie it in with Armada/Energon?

I know Hasbro said it was ment to be a sequill but from what I've seen so far (the first 42 episodes) they don't try at all. For one thing no one in Transformers Cybertron seems to have any memory what so ever of any of the events that happen in the previous series.

Allso so far that's the only major mistake I've noticed compaired to all the mistakes made in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE of Armada and all the mistakes in Energon. (Energon wasn't as bad as Armada though, mostly animation errors.)

[Night Raid]

I never tried to make sense of it. I just took it in its own context. Armada, Cybertron and Energon have always been separate to me.

Folks call it The Unicron Trilogy. I call it The Unicron In Three Different Universes Trilogy.

[Bumbled]

That's because Cybertron was not very good at all. If they hadn't tried to make it tie into Armada/Energon and simply translated Galaxy Force, they could have spent more time not making ass mistakes like that.

Yeah I agree although the graphics were good, because of CG. There was nothing left else that was good.

[Night Raid]

Note to self: Cybertron's subtitled version is the way to go.

[G1 Blaster]

Well it's just best to try to accept as it's own universe. Or just get Galaxy Force DVDs with captions. That'd be the way to go.

Supposedly whatever happened at the end of Energon caused a giant memory wipe of every TF. Which is why no one has any memories of it and that some characters have different voices than they had in Armada/Energon.

[Night Raid]

That makes sense. ASTRO-NERD!!!

Black holes don't just suck absolutely EVERYTHING in. They emit radiation of all kinds, and lots of it. Now we all know that radiation is bad for you, right? Large amounts can be and often are fatal for a biological entity. Particularly if it's Gamma Rays. Gamma Rays are BAAAD. It's not going to turn you into the Hulk, it's going to KILL you.

One type of radiation of particular interest in this case comes in the form of the Electro-Magnetic Pulse, or EMP for short. EMPs screw up anything mechanical, and by anything I really do mean ANYTHING. So if your brain is a computer it may very well mess with your mind.

And meanwhile there's all sorts of other stuff going on. We don't know how black holes work, but what we DO know is that they have a distortion effect on Time and Space in their immediate area. And where do black holes lead? Where does the stuff they suck in GO? Nobody knows. It could be destroyed forever...

Astrophysicists such as Stephen Hawking (you get a golden energon cookie if you know about him) have postulated that there might be such a thing as a 'white hole'-- that is, the other side of the tunnel through reality. WORM HOLE!!! In other words, the stuff a black hole sucks in may be spewed out somewhere else. In another time, in another reality, anytime, anywhere. And if it's an EVIL black hole...

In short, the black hole may have erased their memories and dumped them in a parallel reality in which they haven't encountered humans yet.

If you've managed to understand ANY of this, congratulations.

PH34R T3H N3RD.

[G1 Blaster]

That makes sense. ASTRO-NERD!!!

Black holes don't just suck absolutely EVERYTHING in. They emit radiation of all kinds, and lots of it. Now we all know that radiation is bad for you, right? Large amounts can be and often are fatal for a biological entity. Particularly if it's Gamma Rays. Gamma Rays are BAAAD. It's not going to turn you into the Hulk, it's going to KILL you.

One type of radiation of particular interest in this case comes in the form of the Electro-Magnetic Pulse, or EMP for short. EMPs screw up anything mechanical, and by anything I really do mean ANYTHING. So if your brain is a computer it may very well mess with your mind.

And meanwhile there's all sorts of other stuff going on. We don't know how black holes work, but what we DO know is that they have a distortion effect on Time and Space in their immediate area. And where do black holes lead? Where does the stuff they suck in GO? Nobody knows. It could be destroyed forever...

Astrophysicists such as Stephen Hawking (you get a golden energon cookie if you know about him) have postulated that there might be such a thing as a 'white hole'-- that is, the other side of the tunnel through reality. WORM HOLE!!! In other words, the stuff a black hole sucks in may be spewed out somewhere else. In another time, in another reality, anytime, anywhere. And if it's an EVIL black hole...

In short, the black hole may have erased their memories and dumped them in a parallel reality in which they haven't encountered humans yet.

If you've managed to understand ANY of this, congratulations.

PH34R T3H N3RD.

.....Is any one else a little turned on after reading that?

[ThunderThruster]

a little, but i like my women to be smart!

[Uncrazzimatic]

If you've managed to understand ANY of this, congratulations.

*Pats self on back*

1) Can I have my cookie for knowing who Stephen Hawking is?

2) Great explanation, you filled up Hasbros plot hole for them!

[Damolisher]

Oh, bloody hell, Cybertron's the best series we've had in years. Yes, it does have translation problems, but comparing it to Energon and Armada is like comparing Ice Cream to crap. I mean, it's not the original Japanese series, but hell, it's better than nothing.

[i_amtrunks]

I agree with the Kiwi.

Galaxy Force was a bloody brilliant show, and the Cybertron dub didnt do too bad a job at all, there are very few name mistakes, a few changes made to try and match the mouth movements, but overall the story and characters remain intact (bar Override). It was a well written, both story wise and character wise. Sure it bogged a bit on Velocitron, but it did help develop characters such as Hot Shot and Red Alert, who would be altered later on.

The humans weren't annoying, and the 2d backgrounds with 3d characters really looked great, instead of kind of forced like it did in Energon.

Sure the Cybertron dub was dumbed down a tad from the galaxy Force version, but it wasn't made for lobotomy patients, and there was plenty enough in the show to keep adults somewhat entertained as well.

[Night Raid]

...Don't make me kill you, G1Blaster.

[Saber Prime]

Wait a blasted minut there... It's not a "Black Hole" they're trying to close in Transformers Cybertron. It's a giant "Plot Hole" that's going to destroy the universe. Yes it all makes perfect sence now.

Really though Armada Energon and Cybertron will allways be vied as SEPERATE series to me because they all do crap jobs of following eachother. No exsplination of their upgraded forms, no exsplination of characters haveing the same name as other characters. (Armada Inferno was a Mini-con and in Energon he's an Autobot. Armada Starscream and Thundercracker were the same character and in Cybertron they're different guys, ect.) There's no nothing that really ties any of these series togeather other than a verry few select characters that actully appear in all thee with the same names and simular looks. (Optimus, Hot Shot, Jetfire, ect.) But none of these characters actully seem to be the same characters, rather completly different characters with the same name that just happen to look like them. (Hence the bit about all Wing Saber's code violations in Cybertron that he never commeted in Energon)

There are some simularitys with each series but they're rather insignificant compaired to the vast amount of unexsplained character changes.

I just belive that Armada was crap and never even happened.

Energon was it's own universe and rather than exsplaining how they got "upgrades" I just figure that's how they've allways looked in this universe.

Cybertron is the same thing. Not a sequill to Energon, just a new universe alltogeather.

[GremlinGrimlock]

Every gen has there own.... . I'm not one to be negative,more
perplexed? Cybertron...planet keys one. There was an episode,
where there was a battle with megatron,plus... . Metro plex.was
with prime. Metro had this kendo/circular tip sword weapon,and
had difficulty picking it up and handling. Prime finished up.
Don't know? Metro,battle fortress specs..... . Only perplexion.

[Saber Prime]

So I just finished watching this series. Transformers Cybertron makes a great stand alone series as I said before but as a sequill to Armada and Energon it's crap. Then again all 3 series are better by themselfs. (except Armada, that's nothing but crap crap and more crap.)