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News Credits: 6 · by **City Commander** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:44 am

New preorders are now available at The Robot Kingdom!

Takara Transformers Encore Reissue #13 Trailbreaker

Takara Transformers Encore Reissue #14 Hoist

Takara Henkei Classics C-12 Cheetor

Takara Henkei Classics C-13 Hound

All four of these new products will be available from December 2008.

by **Prowl1529** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:17 am

So Cheetor is really going to be C-12, this means Ratchet will be one possible future realese. Now my Henkei collection is going jump from Henkei C-11 to C-13.

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:21 am

Prowl1529 wrote:So Cheetor is really going to be C-12, this means Ratchet will be one possible future realese. Now my Henkei collection is going jump from Henkei C-11 to C-13.

Didn't you say the exact same thing in another post?

by **Prowl1529** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:29 am

Maybe but i'm still in shock, whit so many good realeses to pick up they had to choose Chettor. If they wanted and Autobot them why not Smokescrean, or Red Alert whit the same mold has Sideswipe (they like this using te same mold for several Transformers) and what about Cliffjumper whit a new head mold or even Ultra Maguns, another repaint. So many options and one bad decision. The boys on Fansproject i'm very sure that they are upset whit a NO realese of Ultra Magnus, because if Takara realeses him them more trailers they will sell.

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:32 am

Prowl1529 wrote:Maybe but i'm still in shock, whit so many good realeses to pick up they had to choose Chettor. If they wanted and Autobot them why not Smokescrean, or Red Alert whit the same mold has Sideswipe (they like this using te same mold for several Transformers) and what about Cliffjumper whit a new head mold or even Ultra Maguns, another repaint. So many options and one bad decision. The boys on Fansproject i'm very sure that they are upset whit a NO realese of Ultra Magnus, because if Takara realeses him them more trailers they will sell.

Sorry, didn't quite catch that.

by **Gutter Bunny** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:56 am

Prowl1529 wrote:Maybe but i'm still in shock, whit so many good realeses to pick up they had to choose Chettor. If they wanted and Autobot them why not Smokescrean, or Red Alert whit the same mold has Sideswipe (they like this using te same mold for several Transformers) and what about Cliffjumper whit a new head mold or even Ultra Maguns, another repaint. So many options and one bad decision. The boys on Fansproject i'm very sure that they are upset whit a NO realese of Ultra Magnus, because if Takara realeses him them more trailers they will sell.

Diem wrote:Sorry, didn't quite catch that.

allow me to translate:

Not a beastwars fan wrote: There are plenty of molds that takara could have chosen to repaint for the henkei line besides the cheetah-bot. I believe it would have been a better decision to release cliffjumper, ultra magnus, red alert, or smokescreen.

Having said that, I disagree. I think it is better if they keep up to date with current releases. There will be ample time for them to catch up on releases that they already missed.

On topic: I have made it well known that i am a huge supporter of Robotkingdom, but for our newer posters it is only fair that they are warned that the company is based out of HK. With that noted, bear in mind that shipping can be quite pricey.

News Credits: 10 · by **HighPrime** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:50 am

Prowl1529 wrote:Maybe but i'm still in shock, whit so many good realeses to pick up they had to choose Chettor. If they wanted and Autobot them why not Smokescrean, or Red Alert whit the same mold has Sideswipe (they like this using te same mold for several Transformers) and what about Cliffjumper whit a new head mold or even Ultra Maguns, another repaint. So many options and one bad decision. The boys on Fansproject i'm very sure that they are upset whit a NO realese of Ultra Magnus, because if Takara realeses him them more trailers they will sell.

Takara probably didn't release Ultra Magnus because Hasbro largely handled his release with the 2-pack of Magnus and Prime in the Asia region. There's still stock remaining at many online shops and on eBay, so business wise, probably a smart move. If Fansproject's stuff isn't selling out now, it never will regardless of how many Magnus repaints are released. Of course, we all know Takara doesn't manage their business based on the products of another company, let alone one releasing unlicensed gear.

Regarding Ratchet, have you seen Takara one up Hasbro with ANY Henkei release yet? Every Henkei release has been selectively released only after Hasbro has released them. Makes sense to me why Ratchet got pushed back. :grin:

If anything, Tomy-Takara seems to have settled into releasing "nitch" transformers products aimed at the collector, while Hasbro handles the broader strategy. That's my take, at least.

Regarding Cheetor, a new mold over a repaint? Well, to each his/her own. I for one really like the new Cheetor mold. The fandom reaction is in the same state it's usually in when something new comes out, disgust and denial followed by acceptance, love, and then the declaration that this line/mold is the mold of the year"

Not trying to start anything, It's just a pattern I've noticed particularly with the movie and animated. :mrgreen:

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:53 am

HighPrime wrote:Regarding Ratchet, have you seen Takara one up Hasbro with ANY Henkei release yet? Every Henkei release has been selectively released only after Hasbro has released them. Makes sense to me why Ratchet got pushed back. If anything, Tomy-Takara seems to have settled into releasing "nitch" transformers products aimed at the collector, while Hasbro handles the broader strategy. That's my take, at least.

While they haven't released anything before Hasbro yet, they have had these designs for at least a year to a year and a half now.

If they wanted to they could have blow Hasbro out of the water like they did with GF.

I bet come first qrt of next year Takara will have mroe new product out then Hasbro for Henkei.

News Credits: 10 · by **HighPrime** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:02 pm

Down_Shift wrote:
HighPrime wrote:Regarding Ratchet, have you seen Takara one up Hasbro with ANY Henkei release yet? Every Henkei release has been selectively released only after Hasbro has released them. Makes sense to me why Ratchet got pushed back. If anything, Tomy-Takara seems to have settled into releasing "nitch" transformers products aimed at the collector, while Hasbro handles the broader strategy. That's my take, at least.

While they haven't released anything before Hasbro yet, they have had these designs for at least a year to a year and a half now.

If they wanted to they could have blow Hasbro out of the water like they did with GF.

I bet come first qrt of next year Takara will have mroe new product out then Hasbro for Henkei.

That's certainly true. Takara and Hasbro work together on much of the TF designs. Takara wasn't part of Tomy (hadn't finished the integration) when GF came out. I don't see Takara operating like that anymore now that they are part of Tomy. They'll continue to let Hasbro run the general releases while they focus on other markets/lines. Like Alternity, for example.

It's acutally kind of nice that Takara and Hasbro only have limited overlapping products at the moment. Gives us more choice