The Energon Pub

[Galvatron628]

Would of used the search function but the last time I tried it game me "no results" regardless of what I typed.

Anyway I've heard many questions including:

1. what happened to barricade
2. Why couldn't Jazz be reparied?
3. Wasn't starscream one of the jets in the airstrick against megatron and blackout?
4. How did bumblebee get his voice back?

Those are all very good questions and the answers to all of them are out there. The chat between the 2 writers on the official movie site answered that, but now I have a new question, that I cannot BELIVE hasn't been asked yet:

How the hell did bumblebee get his legs back at the end of the movie? Did anyone else notice in the attack from starscream bumblebee's legs were blown off? Then after the battle's over bumblebee's walking fine again like nothing happened! So seriously how did he get his legs back?

if anything is driving me crazy its not the above 4 questions but that one!

[lodelco]

How the hell did bumblebee get his legs back at the end of the movie? Did anyone else notice in the attack from starscream bumblebee's legs were blown off? Then after the battle's over bumblebee's walking fine again like nothing happened! So seriously how did he get his legs back?

Ratchet probably repaired him and, according to the novel, some auto-body shop took care of the rest.

Quite a bit of time passed between the battle and the end actually.

[juushinkan]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

[lodelco]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

His mind was awake as opposed to his body being frozen. Could also explain why he said "I AM MEGATRON!" being called NBE-1 for so long. He's pretty vain about that and he'd be seriously pissed about it.

[juushinkan]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

His mind was awake as opposed to his body being frozen. Could also explain why he said "I AM MEGATRON!" being called NBE-1 for so long. He's pretty vain about that and he'd be seriously pissed about it.

Makes a good amount of sense, and makes that part of the movie less cheesy. I approve. Though, I still would have assumed him to be totally unconscious. Sitting there with an active mind for a few thousand years sounds terribly dull.

[Galvatron628]

Well I could be wrong but I mean immediatly after the end battle with the autobots and humans basically in a huddle, bumblebee appears to be 100% healed from his battle injury

EDIT: I have a bootleg on my computer, and It appears I was wrong. I didn't realize Megan fox had to drive him to the huddle on the back of the tow truck. That kind of defeats the whole purpose of my topic.

[Justicity]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

1- Listening to everyone speaking English around him.
2- Downloaded English-module from another Decepticon via Bluetooth.
3- A humorous inclusion, without an introduction, of the Bable fish...

I like three, but I think it's more likely one the others.
As for Bumbles getting fixed, yea, Ratchet, along with some of the humans, repaired him. Jazz couldn't be saved from pretty much the same damage because Meg's had ripped out his spark, which is kinda vital to a transformer...

[lodelco]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

His mind was awake as opposed to his body being frozen. Could also explain why he said "I AM MEGATRON!" being called NBE-1 for so long. He's pretty vain about that and he'd be seriously pissed about it.

Makes a good amount of sense, and makes that part of the movie less cheesy. I approve. Though, I still would have assumed him to be totally unconscious. Sitting there with an active mind for a few thousand years sounds terribly dull.

Yes. Being trapped by organisms who, compared to him, are the size of insects. Also suffering the indignity of being experimented on and being called NBE-1.

If he just wanted to destroy the Earth before you can bet he'd want to grind humanity into the dust after that. Scary thought isn't it?

[Burn]

4. How did bumblebee get his voice back?

Some say Ratchet did it, some say the AllSpark did it, yet even after both instances of his voice box being repaired he continued to still not talk.

He only spoke AFTER Megatron had been defeated. Have a read of the prequel comics, Megatron crushed his vocal circuits, Bumblebee blamed himself for the loss of the AllSpark, it all adds to psychological trauma to me, trauma which he overcame when Megatron was defeated.

[Nightracer GT]

Don't forget my personal favorite:

Why the HELL did they go into the city????!!!!!


Oh and, bootleg? What's that my good sir? If it's something illegal, we don't do that sort of thing around here.

[lodelco]

Don't forget my personal favorite:

Why the HELL did they go into the city????!!!!!


Oh and, bootleg? What's that my good sir? If it's something illegal, we don't do that sort of thing around here.

They were originally supposed to go to the airbase on the OTHER side of the city. I don't know why the hell it ended up being in the city though.

Why would you want to watch a bootleg version? Aside from being illegal, they are of bad quality and you'd still want the extras the DVD comes with.

[PRiMESDESTiNY]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

1- Listening to everyone speaking English around him.
2- Downloaded English-module from another Decepticon via Bluetooth.
3- A humorous inclusion, without an introduction, of the Bable fish...

I like three, but I think it's more likely one the others.
As for Bumbles getting fixed, yea, Ratchet, along with some of the humans, repaired him. Jazz couldn't be saved from pretty much the same damage because Meg's had ripped out his spark, which is kinda vital to a transformer...

dont take this the wrong way but....what r u talking about?? have u seen the movie?

humans helped fixed BB's voice?? BB's voice was fixed because of Ratchets treatment, the treatment finally took effect at the end of the movie. and Megs did NOT rip out Jazz's spark, he ripped him in half. BIG DIFFERENCE. and Megs knew english because his body was frozen but his mind was not. remember they were tampering with him and finding out how to make new mechanics etc. so it would only be the logical for Megs to figure out our language etc.

[Robinson]

Don't forget my personal favorite:

Why the HELL did they go into the city????!!!!!


Oh and, bootleg? What's that my good sir? If it's something illegal, we don't do that sort of thing around here.

They had to buy walkie talkies in order to coordinate the attack.

[ultra tron]

3. Wasn't starscream one of the jets in the airstrick against megatron and blackout?

starsream did shoot at megatron, but a diferent wave of f-22s killed Blackout.

[Justicity]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

1- Listening to everyone speaking English around him.
2- Downloaded English-module from another Decepticon via Bluetooth.
3- A humorous inclusion, without an introduction, of the Bable fish...

I like three, but I think it's more likely one the others.
As for Bumbles getting fixed, yea, Ratchet, along with some of the humans, repaired him. Jazz couldn't be saved from pretty much the same damage because Meg's had ripped out his spark, which is kinda vital to a transformer...

dont take this the wrong way but....what r u talking about?? have u seen the movie?

humans helped fixed BB's voice?? BB's voice was fixed because of Ratchets treatment, the treatment finally took effect at the end of the movie. and Megs did NOT rip out Jazz's spark, he ripped him in half. BIG DIFFERENCE. and Megs knew english because his body was frozen but his mind was not. remember they were tampering with him and finding out how to make new mechanics etc. so it would only be the logical for Megs to figure out our language etc.

Not his damn voice! The fact that his lower body got shot to pieces!

Yes, I know about Megatron, i was using what is commenly known as comedy...
(And if you look at the first possible reason I gave for it I actually said exactly the same as you just said, in less words... read properly next time.)

As for Jazz, yes, he did get ripped in half... And what says thats all that happened? The comics & books say his spark got ripped out by Megs, yes there are differences between the comics & the film but it is believed by quite a few that ripping him in half wasn't all Megatron did. Besides, as BB got practically the same damage it can be ASSUMED that something must have happened to kill Jazz, such as having his spark, the thing keeping him alive, destroyed...

Yes I have seen the film, you just didn't notice that Cornmaster had asked a second question, "How the hell did bumblebee get his legs back at the end of the movie?", and attacked my response, which was quite vaguely explained I admit, to that question in an inappropriate manner.

[Leonardo]

BB's voice was fixed because of Ratchets treatment, the treatment finally took effect at the end of the movie.

It never stated that in the movie, though. It was just another thing the movie didn't explain.

[Robinson]

3. Wasn't starscream one of the jets in the airstrick against megatron and blackout?

starsream did shoot at megatron, but a diferent wave of f-22s killed Blackout.

And you know this for a fact how?

[PRiMESDESTiNY]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

1- Listening to everyone speaking English around him.
2- Downloaded English-module from another Decepticon via Bluetooth.
3- A humorous inclusion, without an introduction, of the Bable fish...

I like three, but I think it's more likely one the others.
As for Bumbles getting fixed, yea, Ratchet, along with some of the humans, repaired him. Jazz couldn't be saved from pretty much the same damage because Meg's had ripped out his spark, which is kinda vital to a transformer...

dont take this the wrong way but....what r u talking about?? have u seen the movie?

humans helped fixed BB's voice?? BB's voice was fixed because of Ratchets treatment, the treatment finally took effect at the end of the movie. and Megs did NOT rip out Jazz's spark, he ripped him in half. BIG DIFFERENCE. and Megs knew english because his body was frozen but his mind was not. remember they were tampering with him and finding out how to make new mechanics etc. so it would only be the logical for Megs to figure out our language etc.

Not his damn voice! The fact that his lower body got shot to pieces!

Yes, I know about Megatron, i was using what is commenly known as comedy...
(And if you look at the first possible reason I gave for it I actually said exactly the same as you just said, in less words... read properly next time.)

As for Jazz, yes, he did get ripped in half... And what says thats all that happened? The comics & books say his spark got ripped out by Megs, yes there are differences between the comics & the film but it is believed by quite a few that ripping him in half wasn't all Megatron did. Besides, as BB got practically the same damage it can be ASSUMED that something must have happened to kill Jazz, such as having his spark, the thing keeping him alive, destroyed...

Yes I have seen the film, you just didn't notice that Cornmaster had asked a second question, "How the hell did bumblebee get his legs back at the end of the movie?", and attacked my response, which was quite vaguely explained I admit, to that question in an inappropriate manner.

and if u would have read what i said properly, i clearly stated and i quote " dont take this the wrong way but..." so that way you would understand that no harm or insult was intended, before i started asking you questions....so anyway, i thank you for clariflying what you meant with ur response.


as far as jazz getting ripped in half and saying that there is a possibility that is not all that happened, the movie shows that to be all that happened between him and megs. u see him get tossed up by megs on the building and megs standing on jazz, u see him shoot megs when megs pulls him from up under his feet and has him hanging upside down and then u see megs rip him in half, starting in the stomach area i might add, not below the thighs like bb, which is why bb survived. end of story.

so saying "some folks believe that is not all that happened and we dont know for sure what all really happened" is IMO a pointless argument or statement.

and for the record people bumblebee was NOT walking around at the end of the movie. he was still stuck on that tow truck when he started talking, legs shot to hell and all. the only time u see him 100% is when u see sam and mikaela having a make out session on top of him in car mode @ the very end.

[PRiMESDESTiNY]

BB's voice was fixed because of Ratchets treatment, the treatment finally took effect at the end of the movie.

It never stated that in the movie, though. It was just another thing the movie didn't explain.

no the movie did not, that is true. but robert orci, one of the writers did answer that question on this forum and from what i know from others, on other forums as well, and clarified that it was not the allspark that fixed his voice but in fact ratchet's treatment.


thats the one thing i dislike about the movie, it didnt cover enough of the little things which left alot to be explained or questioned.

[Justicity]

and for the record people bumblebee was NOT walking around at the end of the movie. he was still stuck on that tow truck when he started talking, legs shot to hell and all. the only time u see him 100% is when u see sam and mikaela having a make out session on top of him in car mode @ the very end.

Ok, I can't be bothered with the Jazz argument because to be honest, we can't be sure until we see the deleted scenes on the DVD.

But as for BB, I never said he was fixed when he spoke... The end of the movie I meant was, funnily enough, the END of the movie, when Prime was sending the message. "Bumblebee was NOT walking around at the end of the movie". Well of course he wasn't, he wasn't in robot mode.

[ultra tron]

3. Wasn't starscream one of the jets in the airstrick against megatron and blackout?

starsream did shoot at megatron, but a diferent wave of f-22s killed Blackout.

And you know this for a fact how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrar1zQ-Wqc

Hope it works, and watch starscream carefully....

[Nico]

As stated above, he was fixed in the time gap between the end of the battle and the humans getting friendly enough to make out on Bumblebee's hood.

A question I haven't seen would be- How did Megatron know English if he was frozen for a few thousand years?

His mind was awake as opposed to his body being frozen. Could also explain why he said "I AM MEGATRON!" being called NBE-1 for so long. He's pretty vain about that and he'd be seriously pissed about it.

Maybe its like beign a paralysed after an accident.

lets see, you are an evil warlord whose name is fearned through the galaxy and puny flesh creatue call you NBE-1. It must really suck! Its like "DAMMIT! MY NAME IS MEGATRON NOT NBE-1, DUMBASS!!!"

[Robinson]

3. Wasn't starscream one of the jets in the airstrick against megatron and blackout?

starsream did shoot at megatron, but a diferent wave of f-22s killed Blackout.

And you know this for a fact how?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrar1zQ-Wqc

Hope it works, and watch starscream carefully....

I've seen the movie and the scene in particular, there is no conctrete proof that ss fired on megs, there are at least 8 jets at the start of the fights and we only see ss take out 3-4 of them. No real shot of ss firing on meg's.

[Galvatron628]

Yes I have seen the film, you just didn't notice that Cornmaster had asked a second question, "How the hell did bumblebee get his legs back at the end of the movie?", and attacked my response, which was quite vaguely explained I admit, to that question in an inappropriate manner.

I don't remember attacking your response. Anyway I watched the end again, and I was wrong. Bumblebee was not fixed at the end of the battle. So it defeats the purpose of this thread anyway.

BTW the name is COR-Master, not Corn master. COR for Cory.

[Burn]

BB's voice was fixed because of Ratchets treatment, the treatment finally took effect at the end of the movie.

It never stated that in the movie, though. It was just another thing the movie didn't explain.

no the movie did not, that is true. but robert orci, one of the writers did answer that question on this forum and from what i know from others, on other forums as well, and clarified that it was not the allspark that fixed his voice but in fact ratchet's treatment.

Yes but because it's NOT in the movie you can't say it's fact either.

Sure, the writer said that that's what happened, but we didn't see it.

If a tree falls in the forest and no one's there to hear it fall, did it still make a sound?

I still like my theory of psychological trauma. It gives depth to things plus even after Ratchet flashed his laser thing-a-me-jig at BB, BB still didn't speak until after the final battle was over.