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Why did the Protoforms Crash?

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Why did the Protoforms Crash?

Postby Optimist Prime » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:08 pm

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Did I miss something? Why do Transformers crash land as protoforms? Did they run out of money to buy spaceships? :???:
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Postby Scatterlung » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:17 pm

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I know this is a Real World answer to an In-Fiction question, but the reason they use those Protoforms is because Bay and Co decided it didn't make sense for them to use Space Ships when they might as well just turn into one themselves.

The reason they have to crash is fairly simple. They're disguising themselves as meteors that no one will be interested in.
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Postby nexisconvoy » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:33 pm

Also G forces pulled them down and they had a crash landing
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Postby Blackstreak » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:31 pm

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Perhaps a lack of steering :???: Or perhaps they were in disguise as meteorites to not attract attention as an alien life form. Wait a minute, Meverix said that already.
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Postby ***Galvatron*** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:43 pm

Meverix wrote:I know this is a Real World answer to an In-Fiction question, but the reason they use those Protoforms is because Bay and Co decided it didn't make sense for them to use Space Ships when they might as well just turn into one themselves.

The reason they have to crash is fairly simple. They're disguising themselves as meteors that no one will be interested in.


I heard that a ship was planned to be used for their arrival in the first movie but it was removed for budgetary reasons.

If trying to disguise themselves as meteors then that had the opposite effect as it attracted people and the news crews.
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Re: Why did the Protoforms Crash?

Postby Wheelimus Prime » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:47 pm

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~Windcharger~ wrote:Did I miss something? Why do Transformers crash land as protoforms? Did they run out of money to buy spaceships? :???:


*sips coffee "sighs" hands prequel novel*
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Re: Why did the Protoforms Crash?

Postby Optimist Prime » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:47 pm

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Primacron12 wrote:
~Windcharger~ wrote:Did I miss something? Why do Transformers crash land as protoforms? Did they run out of money to buy spaceships? :???:


*sips coffee "sighs" hands prequel novel*


*takes book starts to read it, then stops and looks up*

Wouldn't it be faster if you just summarized for me?
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Re: Why did the Protoforms Crash?

Postby Bonecrusher27 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:10 am

~Windcharger~ wrote:
Primacron12 wrote:*sips coffee "sighs" hands prequel novel*


*takes book starts to read it, then stops and looks up*

Wouldn't it be faster if you just summarized for me?


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Postby AlienQuiksilver » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:22 am

Somebody needs motivation to read a book you say?

Go to youtube and search "read a book." It should be the 1st video.

If that doesn't motivate you ... nothing will. I would provide a link, but I cannot get onto that site from my work computer.
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Postby Insurgent » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:20 am

Perhaps he doesn't have the prequal novel, and can't get it/isn't interested in it.

I was just thinking they wanted to get rid of a headache, and they heard dropping from orbit and landing on your head cures it.

But if there is an instory explaination for the crashing, please, enlighten us.
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Postby Sonray » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:24 am

Heres the best answer:

DRAMATIC EFFECT FOR TEH MOVIE FILM!

Simple.
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:27 am

Yeah, I'm gonna back the meteor disquise.

As for that plan backfiring, world aint perfect.

And just my oppinion, it looked cool.
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Postby Scatterlung » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:40 am

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Sonray wrote:Heres the best answer:

DRAMATIC EFFECT FOR TEH MOVIE FILM!

Simple.
You don't think a giant alien spaceship landing would be dramatic? If not a little cliche.

The reason, as was given by the makers themselves, was that if these robots can transform into virtually anything, they can transform into space-fairing vehicles, even temporarily, rendering the whole space-ship notion redundant.

It would possbily have cost a lot too, as has been suggested.

The Prequel Novel (which contradicts the prequel comics) has them arrive in our solar system in The Ark (I believe), and then they travel the rest of the way by protoform. The reason they have an Ark here when the makers were like "NOWAI" about it, is because obviously the novel has actually nothing to do with the film. Its just merchandise.
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Postby Wheelimus Prime » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:29 pm

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Insurgent wrote:Perhaps he doesn't have the prequal novel, and can't get it/isn't interested in it.

I was just thinking they wanted to get rid of a headache, and they heard dropping from orbit and landing on your head cures it.

But if there is an instory explaination for the crashing, please, enlighten us.


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[quote=wind charger]Primacron12 wrote:
~Windcharger~ wrote:
Did I miss something? Why do Transformers crash land as protoforms? Did they run out of money to buy spaceships?


*sips coffee "sighs" hands prequel novel* [/quote]


*takes book starts to read it, then stops and looks up*

Wouldn't it be faster if you just summarized for me? [/quote]




they are in space in the ark about to battle the :CON: wen an earth ship that resembals megs warps into the seen (note they had there proto forms)

see there was a ship just not in the movie
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Postby Sonray » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:58 pm

Meverix wrote:
Sonray wrote:Heres the best answer:

DRAMATIC EFFECT FOR TEH MOVIE FILM!

Simple.
You don't think a giant alien spaceship landing would be dramatic? If not a little cliche.

The reason, as was given by the makers themselves, was that if these robots can transform into virtually anything, they can transform into space-fairing vehicles, even temporarily, rendering the whole space-ship notion redundant.

It would possbily have cost a lot too, as has been suggested.

The Prequel Novel (which contradicts the prequel comics) has them arrive in our solar system in The Ark (I believe), and then they travel the rest of the way by protoform. The reason they have an Ark here when the makers were like "NOWAI" about it, is because obviously the novel has actually nothing to do with the film. Its just merchandise.


Yes it would be very cliche, not to mention expensive and impractical. Where would they park the sucker where it wouldn't get discovered for a start? Not to mention that would make one helluva big blip on the human radar. After all they are trying to hide and not draw attention to themselves and whilst crashing down to earth with a bang made a lot of noise, no one found out what they were.

I agree with the film makers that they dont need space ships. Humans only need them because we cant survive or travel through space unaided. The idea of the bots not needing space ships to do that just further puts the idea accross how awesome and advanced they are compared to us.

And, like i already said, the crash landings looked cool and dramatic and you gotta remember its Micheal Bay as well, he has a penchant for meteors blowing stuff up. :P
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Postby Saberwing » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:54 pm

They take disguises - but dont see any problem crashing into a stadium?!? - what if people had been in that stadium??? How many would have been killed - how many people would have seen them?

Doesnt make much sense....god bless Michael Bay
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Postby Scatterlung » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:29 pm

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Night Raid wrote:Atmospheric reentry is NEVER a gentle thing.
This would probably be Bay's explanation too. Makes sense.

Having the Transformers be at the mercy to the forces of nature really gives them a much greater mortality too.
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