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The biggest germany Movie-News-Website has postet the german Title for Transformers 2 - Reveng eof the Fallen.

It's called:

Transformers - Die Rückkehr (engl. transl. Transformers - The Return)!

With this news implies that "The Fallen" isn't in the 2nd Movie, cause noone must return we didn't saw right in he first Film right now, right?

News was found by the german Transformer-Board NTF-Archive.de!

Source: [url="http://www.ntf-archive.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=47"]www.ntf-archive.de[/url] and [url="http://www.filmstarts.de/kritiken/90903-Transformers-Die-R%FCckkehr.html"]www.filmstarts.de[/url]

[First Gen]

Seibertron.com member LimeWire-NTF-Archive has informed us that NTF-Archive.de, the biggest German Transformers Movie news website, has posted the official German title for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen:

Transformers - Die Rückkehr or Transformers The Return.

According to the German website, this news implies that the character "The Fallen" will not appear in the sequel and that it most likely means a character will return from the original film. This information comes courtesy of Filmstarts.de, which is stated to be the most reliable movie news source in Europe.

Film writers for ROTF have already stated that "The Fallen" may not be in the film, but no confirmed reports have been released to date. This new information could add fuel to the rumor that it is actually Megatron who will make his return for the second film.

Seibertron.com will continue to bring you the latest information available on Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

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[Savage]

Yet another reason so much fan confusion could have been saved if they'd just entitled it "TransFormers: Rise/Revenge of the Decepticons"

[TankedThomas]

Damn it! I knew it was too good to be true. Oh well. This better be a good movie or their whole disinformation scheme will have been a waste (and us, the fans, will riot, then eat Michael Bay. That's Baytastic).

[ultra_magus]

Well, now we know. and knowing is half the battle.

[DMSL]

I never understood why people assumed they were referring to The Fallen character with the title. It just defies logic when you look at the first movie. I think we will see the return of all Decepticons from the first movie brought back to life with help of the Constructicons (that includes Bonecrusher), possibly with an AllSpark fragment.

[Megatron Wolf]

No matter who the main villain is the films still gonna suck.

[CJH]

Surely it was obvious from the outset that this was part of the misinformation scheme?
Why would they so blatantly call out an obscure villain for the sequel who has no bearing on the first film?
It was such a deliberate ploy to rouse the fanbase... given only diehard fans even knew The Fallen was a character; I certainly didn't.

To me this is a good thing.

[First-Aid]

No matter who the main villain is the films still gonna suck.

Love your optimism...

[cheesesteak]

I don't think the German title determines the presence or lack of presence of the Fallen. "Transformers: The Return" could, and I'd say more likely, implies that "The Transformers" are back. Sometimes, foreign language titles just go with something like "Return of" or just "2" when the original language title actually contains more meaning, etc.

So the news is only "Transformers: The Return" is the translation of the German title. The analysis proclaiming that this denies the existence of "The Fallen" in the T2 is just speculation.

Quick survey of my German dictionaries (I don't speak, just have a weak reading knowledge) says in addition to "The Return" Die Rückkehr can also mean something akin to "comeback" and maybe someone else can confirm whether "resurrection" is an apt synonym too. Anyway, it seems the word may imply a recovery from a fallen position. Yes, that could be Megs, it could be The Fallen, or it could be the Transformers themselves. I mean, a race of beings who can no longer reproduce or rebuild their world, etc., due to the loss of the Allspark, could pretty much be thought of as a fallen position.

Something strikes back. It's a sequel, that's pretty much a given. But really, we're all still just speculating. I mean if it turns out the Japanese title translates into "Transformers: GO AGAIN GO!" are we going to infer the Go-Bots are the main adversary? ne?

[Rocketeer]

Speculation or not... do you ever feel like the filmmakers haven't made up their minds?
Sometimes it seems like they've shot all the human-based film, and they'll make up the story during the CGI process.

I know, I know... that's not the case, but it just feels like it is sometimes.

[Point]

Come on, anyone that thinks The Fallen is gonna be in this movie is out of their mind and the WORST kind of fanboy (not bashing fanboys cause I'm one and so are you). It just AIN'T gonna happen. Plus, the movie could still change names at the last minute could it not?

[SJ21]

I just assumed the term "The Fallen" was being used as an adjective. I didn't think for a second that they were referring to the character "The Fallen".

[cheesesteak]

Come on, anyone that thinks The Fallen is gonna be in this movie is out of their mind and the WORST kind of fanboy (not bashing fanboys cause I'm one and so are you). It just AIN'T gonna happen. Plus, the movie could still change names at the last minute could it not?

I suppose this an argument that "The Fallen" is more obscure than the "mainstream" Transformers mythology? Right, didn't the last movie ultimately revolve around The Allspark?* Not exactly something in the broad public radar re: Transformers. Again, I'm not saying The Fallen's a definite in, nor am I saying he's a definite out. I'm just saying that taking a foreign language title as definitive proof one way or the other is just speculation.

*And as someone who had his interest renewed in TF with the announcment of the original film (though that landed me reading mostly IDW's G1 stuff and not paying much attention to the film 'verse books), I can say that I had never heard of any of the 'Cons in the first film besides Megs, S'scream and Scorpinok. So creating some sort of major big and bad guy won't harm the movie franchise any more than the damage Bay's handling has already done we fanboys.

[leader magnus prime]

i pretty much knew it

[YRQRM0]

Good. I was a fraid everyone including myself would be confused if THE Fallen was in it,it would take hal the movie to tell his history and who he was anyways, and I like Megatron better. Hopefully he'll battle Jet convoy, or whatever the combo of Prime and Jetfire is. Or maybe we'll be lucky enough to hear him say "Constructicons, merge for the kill!"

[Dead Metal]

Seriously don't take that as the official no to the Fallen why? Because German film or movie titles sometimes suck big time, I mean the British cop comedy Hot Fuzz was called "Hot Fuzz Two wanked off professionals" German Film titles for translated movies are really mostly just really out there and misleading best best example Pirates of the Caribbean was called "Course of the Caribbean".

Just to inform you.