The Energon Pub

[dinogeist]

lately the recolors are extremely horrible,even the store exclusives colors are awful.

the worst offender to bad recolors in the TF movie verse toy lines.

sadly the store exclusives are also getting horrible colors. TRU MP Rodimus looks so inferior in colors+decals to takara's MP-09 Rodimus convoy toy.

[Erailea]

You seem to complain more about Transformers than you talk about liking them...

[fenrir72]

I have to agree with both of you.

On TRU Rodimus, his colors does suck! As for Tidalwavex, he probably has a bad day but I'd grant him that he really loves his TFs.

[NTESHFT]

Sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with my TRU .....

You know, I think it's kind of funny and weird that there are "fans" on the site who seem to down just about every TF (from Hastak to 3rd party) that comes out.

[fenrir72]

To each his tastes but seriously, compare the color scheme of MP Rodimus and the TRU version.........And fyi, I don't pile on 3rd party stuff, only extremely expensive that could be sold cheaper like Crazydevy scalpers inc! FP on the other hand, well , they are the standard to beat among 3rd party makers.

[Kibble]

Whether you're a fan or not, at least there's a point to TRU MP Rodimus' deco...well, minus his deep tan anyhow. The movie repaints are just typically bad and rarely have any basis to them. But whatev...they're easy enough to just not buy.

[zodconvoy]

Considering as how the TRU Rodimus doesn't come with a trailer but does come with a Targetmaster, I'd say it's supposed to be MP Hot Rod. The general coloration and painted detail on the legs (plus the sticker options for the arms) make it G1 toy accurate. When Hasbro and Takara both make the same figure, one usually goes for show or comic accuracy while the other goes for G1 toy accuracy. They got screen, we got toy. And as for complaining about the repaints, Darkmount & Skullgrin? Terradive & Space Case? Drift & Blurr? Movieverse and store exclusives deluxe Starscream into Thundercracker? The Lunar Optimus and Comettor?

Seriously, if you don't like it, don't buy it. If you don't buy it, there's no reason to complain about it. No one's making you do it.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'll have to partially agree with the OP, even then only a very small part. And it's limited to the Movie line.

What I'm really not a fan of is the fact that the more famous a certain character is, the greater the chance is of a repaint using the same (base) colors as the original toy. Optimus Prime is the greatest offender in that area, followed by *groan* Bumblebee, who often only differs in deco patterns. I understand the necessity of maintaining the recognition of a character to increase sales, but this is overdoing it!

[Noideaforaname]

I'd much rather have a terrible but distinct redeco than a slightly different repaint.

[Burn]

So don't buy them. End of discussion.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So don't buy them. End of discussion.

Did I mention I don't like those redecoes being sold with full-fledged repaints? The Toys 'R Us Streetside Bot Brawl set comes to mind. I just wanted the Shockwave, but didn't want the Prime and Bumblebee. And no, I'm not the selling type.

[DISCHARGE]

So don't buy them. End of discussion.

Sheesh some people just don't get it. It's far more constructive to complain about the smallest things. I mean who really wants options on their action figures, or dolls as we all call them.

Who wants a redeco of the Bumblebee so he would fit in with the other Wreckers

or a multitude of variants for people who like those things in their collections

I am though stumped by all the pointless Prime repaints, he's such a shelfwarmer and is the farthest thing from being the most recognizable face in the Transformers line.

Yup, for a toy line that has built a tradition of collecting built around it, repaints/decos seem really odd. I mean the least they could do is try to please everyone all the time. Would that be too hard of a concept? I think not.
(Sorry, I am strife with sarcasm today)

[Burn]

So don't buy them. End of discussion.

Did I mention I don't like those redecoes being sold with full-fledged repaints? The Toys 'R Us Streetside Bot Brawl set comes to mind. I just wanted the Shockwave, but didn't want the Prime and Bumblebee. And no, I'm not the selling type.

Did I mention what I said wasn't aimed at you? I didn't. Apologies for that.

Sheesh some people just don't get it. It's far more constructive to complain about the smallest things. I mean who really wants options on their action figures, or dolls as we all call them.

*shrugs shoulders* It's plain and simple really. You can complain until you're blue in the face, but that's not going to change things.

But people act like it's their god given right to demand things from Hasbro. Like Hasbro should bend over backwards to please them. If Hasbro make something I don't like, I don't buy it. They make plenty of other stuff I like though so I buy that instead.

Yup, for a toy line that has built a tradition of collecting built around it, repaints/decos seem really odd. I mean the least they could do is try to please everyone all the time. Would that be too hard of a concept? I think not.
(Sorry, I am strife with sarcasm today)

Hasbro's biggest mistake when it comes to repaints (especially in the case of Bumblebee and Prime) is either calling them the same characters (or slapping a "Powerlink" in front of the name) or creating new characters that receive next to no characterisation.

I find it funny that a lot of people complain about modern day repaints, but look over the fact we have six seekers from G1, three of which are the same mold, and three which are based on the same mold, a couple of Datsuns, two Van boxes and so on and so on, but no one complains about them. Why?

Because they got characterised.

And that's where Hasbro fails with their modern repaints and why I don't bother buying them.

[DISCHARGE]

So, what you are saying Burn, is that if it doesn't do anything for you then you don't have to buy it? Huh, I never looked at it that way.

On a serious note, I do get your point on character. It just seems that Hasbro picks poor sellers most of the time to repaint as a new character or the repaint is so similar to the original it seems pointless.
I honestly don't think it's so much of the lazy repaints for the movie as it is people being burnt out on the same figures they feel (at times) compelled to buy to have the newest version. Giving a repaint a drastic new color scheme and a great character to match seems harder for Hasbro to commit too for some reason. I've seen some really good fan repaints that should be in production and will never see the light of day.

Personally I collect the Legends\Legion class size and want them in all their repaint goodness. The Crankcase from the Battle in the Moonlight set is UGGO, but I'm not disappointed in it, I love these things and am happy I'm given options. I've missed out on some of them and regret it. I couldn't imagine the cost for those that collect only larger figures.

The way you have to look at it is if there is at least one version of the toy and it appeals to you, don't sweat the repaints, you don't need it.

[Burn]

So, what you are saying Burn, is that if it doesn't do anything for you then you don't have to buy it? Huh, I never looked at it that way.

Bingo. At one point I was buying everything, including repaints. But space and money quickly became an issue.

The way you have to look at it is if there is at least one version of the toy and it appeals to you, don't sweat the repaints, you don't need it.

Once space and money became an issue my habits changed from "gotta catch 'em all" to just making sure I get one of each mold, preferably the initial release.

I'll still grab a repaint from time to time if the colours/character catches my interest, for example, Cybertron Cannonball. Colours were awesome and it was a whole new character.

I'd also like to say I snap up all seekers, but I drew the line with the movie guys because i've never liked any of the Starscream molds, regardless of what colour they're in.

[DISCHARGE]

I passed on the regular release of ROTF Starscream, he looked bland, but I love Nebular Starscream, and I liked the bio on the package. Often the bio will be a selling point for me.


While people complain about his hands sticking out the rear, I just turn them over so the thrusters are visible and the hands are the cable catcher, it's not a bad toy.
I had absolutely no desire for the 2007 movie seeker repaints and picked up none of them.
The best repaints for the first movie came as the Wal-mart exclusives, Fracture has a great scheme.

They are moving into the Prime toys and I see Hasbro wanting to move away from the movie toys(yes I know there will be a movie trilogies line). I think that is why we are not seeing as many new molds\repaints\characters.Slower sales due to a weak global economy doesn't really help spur new ventures either. If they move back to the Premium line though, I think that would make people happy.

[dinogeist]

This thread isn't about a fan/tidalwavex complaining about repaints & how he's forced to buy them all because he's a completist. I'm not a completist. I only buy under 10 new mold TF toys per year.

This thread was suspose to be about judging/commenting on all the horrible movie verse repaints & store exclusive colors.

[dinogeist]

Considering as how the TRU Rodimus doesn't come with a trailer but does come with a Targetmaster, I'd say it's supposed to be MP Hot Rod. The general coloration and painted detail on the legs (plus the sticker options for the arms) make it G1 toy accurate. When Hasbro and Takara both make the same figure, one usually goes for show or comic accuracy while the other goes for G1 toy accuracy. They got screen,

Sadly the TRU MP Rodimus was even accurate to any media nor toy versions of 1986 Hotrod. 1986 Hotrod's toy/media had a pearl white face+hands. the TRU MP Rodimus had this weird galvanized dull grey inner face+hands.

Putting the hotrod decals on the lower legs of the Hasbro TRU MP Rodimus made ZERO sense. because this is unique to hotrod not rodimus prime. Hasbro clearly labeled the TRU Exclusive Rodimus prime & even reveals the rodimus prime robot mode instructions in the instruction booklet & box art. having the hotrod lower legs decals is a real buzz kill & just ruins the extended robot mode for rodimus prime. It's hard to visualize the extended robot mode is Rodimus Prime when their is clearly hotrod lower legs decals visible.

Their was no valid reason why we got such a ugly weird flame decal pattern on the TRU MP Rodimus toy. last I checked the 1986 hotrod flame decal didn't have a ugly design pattern.

Hasbro didn't use the Takara colors pattern for TRU MP Rodimus BECAUSE IT COST TOO MUCH. Hasbro opted for their unique colors patternt BECAUSE IT COST LESS MONEY.

[DISCHARGE]

This thread isn't about a fan/tidalwavex complaining about repaints & how he's forced to buy them all because he's a completist. I'm not a completist. I only buy under 10 new mold TF toys per year.

This thread was suspose to be about judging/commenting on all the horrible movie verse repaints & store exclusive colors.

Well you did only give one example(TRU MP Rod). Nobody implied that you were a completist, but obviously you wish there were options more to your liking, elaborate. I take repaints at face value for what they are. I'm not so nit-picky about a particular color choice. I like the Wal-mart Sideswipe, he homages G2 Go-bots sideswipe, toys that at the moment I am in to.
I like the Target exclusives Voy Starscream and Jazz. It's more about a particular mold for me than any given color scheme.
I think that most things I've touched upon as well as any other poster has addressed the very (vague and poorly structured) topic you started:

lately the recolors are extremely horrible,even the store exclusives colors are awful.

the worst offender to bad recolors in the TF movie verse toy lines.

sadly the store exclusives are also getting horrible colors. TRU MP Rodimus looks so inferior in colors+decals to takara's MP-09 Rodimus convoy toy.

You can't start a topic and assume that everyone is going to agree with your point of view, I'm sorry. By premising that the repaints are so horrible would draw only one conclusion\solution- don't buy them.

There are winners and there are losers. Loser in this category:
Target exclusive Ratchet and TRU scan series Ratchet, but that's because I can stand his movieverse character, not because he has a horrible color scheme. Try to be happy with what you have or change it. I wanted a black Cyberverse Prime, but have they made one yet? No. So I made my own. End the toy hate( there is no such thing as perfection), you'll be happier.

[Rushie]

I find it funny that a lot of people complain about modern day repaints, but look over the fact we have six seekers from G1, three of which are the same mold, and three which are based on the same mold, a couple of Datsuns, two Van boxes and so on and so on, but no one complains about them. Why?

Because they got characterised.

This.

People actually rejoice whenever any Starscream gets repainted into another Seeker, even if said Starscream doesn't really resemble the typical Seeker bodytype at all. I'm predicting at least Thundercracker and Skywarp repaints of either the Deluxe or Voyager mold of Prime Starscream.

Universe Prowl got two repaints and the Sunstreaker mold was used over five times in two years.

Funny how these things go.

[zodconvoy]

Considering as how the TRU Rodimus doesn't come with a trailer but does come with a Targetmaster, I'd say it's supposed to be MP Hot Rod. The general coloration and painted detail on the legs (plus the sticker options for the arms) make it G1 toy accurate. When Hasbro and Takara both make the same figure, one usually goes for show or comic accuracy while the other goes for G1 toy accuracy. They got screen,

Sadly the TRU MP Rodimus was even accurate to any media nor toy versions of 1986 Hotrod. 1986 Hotrod's toy/media had a pearl white face+hands. the TRU MP Rodimus had this weird galvanized dull grey inner face+hands.

Putting the hotrod decals on the lower legs of the Hasbro TRU MP Rodimus made ZERO sense. because this is unique to hotrod not rodimus prime. Hasbro clearly labeled the TRU Exclusive Rodimus prime & even reveals the rodimus prime robot mode instructions in the instruction booklet & box art. having the hotrod lower legs decals is a real buzz kill & just ruins the extended robot mode for rodimus prime. It's hard to visualize the extended robot mode is Rodimus Prime when their is clearly hotrod lower legs decals visible.

Their was no valid reason why we got such a ugly weird flame decal pattern on the TRU MP Rodimus toy. last I checked the 1986 hotrod flame decal didn't have a ugly design pattern.

Hasbro didn't use the Takara colors pattern for TRU MP Rodimus BECAUSE IT COST TOO MUCH. Hasbro opted for their unique colors patternt BECAUSE IT COST LESS MONEY.

The reason they called it Rodimus and not Hot Rod is they no longer have the rights to it. Period. Also, they couldn't remove the Rodimus older face anymore then they could not have gotten rid of the hip extending or the back crest changing positions. It's supposed to be an update of the G1 Targetmaster toy. The face is the same gray plastic as the shoulder pieces, rims, hands, and under the chromed parts. I just love the fact that it not not only comes with a brand new Targetmaster but also the brand new opening Matrix in addition to the tiny one that goes it his chest. The only thing that I don't understand about it is why it came with a con sticker option. And losing a simple black outline around a slightly different flame deco on the hood/chest does not mean an inferior paint job and is not a make or break cost prohibition. It just means they went with a different design.

[Screamfleet]

You seem to complain more about Transformers than you talk about liking them...

I sometimes feel like, and this is not exclusive to transformers at all, people are fans of something, it means they just like to complain about every facet and detail of that thing.

[sharkdude5]

lunarfire optimus and cyberfire bumblebee seem a bit over the top...

[RhA]

This thread isn't about a fan/tidalwavex complaining about repaints & how he's forced to buy them all because he's a completist. I'm not a completist. I only buy under 10 new mold TF toys per year.

This thread was suspose to be about judging/commenting on all the horrible movie verse repaints & store exclusive colors.

And you ended up to be the one who is judged. Derp.

Personally, whenever I see a 'anyone else whjo is willing to agree with me call something or other terrible or horrible'-thread, I put my money on you as the starter. You hardly seem to like modern TF's and so badly want a flock of people to agree with you... I imagine it to be very exhausting for you.

I don't agree with you. I like recolors, they sometimes surpass the original (BLACK CONVOY AHOY!) and keep the Hasbromachine going.

[fenrir72]

I hope this thread won't end up in the same fate others..........