The Energon Pub

News Credits: 3 · by **Manterax Prime** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:03 pm

FE Optimus and BH Optimus are the only ones I want out of the Prime line. I also want the Dark Energon version but that's the only version of the Powerizer OP I actually like.

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:05 pm

Here's a more GEEWUN version hueswapped by Destron-D69 of Allspark.com:

Personally, I think it looks too Geewun.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:19 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Here's a more GEEWUN version hueswapped by Destron-D69 of Allspark.com:

Personally, I think it looks too Geewun.

Can anyone digi-color him into Guiltor?

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:23 pm

Yeah, I would count on getting the blue windows version from Takara. (I'm sure we can count on that.)

But yeah, not as many problems with this guy... more with the spikey other characters, and the generally more young aesthetic.

I am indeed going to pick this guy up.

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpsGhost** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:30 pm

Only just noticed that the Commander class Prime is mis-transformed as well. He's feet are not flipped out.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:39 pm

Yeah, it's really funny how often we get mistransformed bots in photos, instruction manuals, etc. Gotta laugh at it.

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpsGhost** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:57 pm

It's kinda becoming a running joke with Hasbros press shots that they are 90% of the time mis-transformed. Whoever is in charge of taking pics needs a good talking to lol

by **RAcast** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:20 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Here's a more GEEWUN version hueswapped by Destron-D69 of Allspark.com:

Personally, I think it looks too Geewun.

Can anyone digi-color him into Guiltor?

That does look pretty good. Even if Takara does that, I'll stick with the toxic green windowed version, I like it specifically for being different.

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:25 pm

SkyWarpsGhost wrote:It's kinda becoming a running joke with Hasbros press shots that they are 90% of the time mis-transformed. Whoever is in charge of taking pics needs a good talking to lol

Plenty of key examples here.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:56 pm

Hotrodimust wrote:
That Bot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad
A children's toyline actually looking appropriate for children? THE HORROR!

Damn it, I was going to say something like that! I mean god forbid a toy for kids looks like *gasp* a TOY for KIDS!

Even my 6 year old soon says it looks like its from the rescue bot line and when I say kiddy I mean play school fisher price kiddy and there are tons of people on this topic saying this toy sucks and looks kiddy so go troll someone else.

It's well-established that the Transformers fandom is (ironically) resistant to change, and they're very whiny and vocal about it. Honestly I think we've just been spoiled by the high-detail Movieverse and some Generations figures, this doesn't look any worse than an Armada toy. And for everybody complaining about how awful it looks, I've seen just as many people say they like it and want to get it. If you don't like it, I'm sorry. We're not the target for Transformers toys like this anyway. I can look at this through my inner kid's eyes and see the appeal of it, and that's good enough for me.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:48 pm

I think my biggest problem is the shift MIDWAY through a toy line.. and tv show. (ie. Tranformers Prime) Comparing the first edition toys with these, there's a big design change. It looks like a different toy line. I think that's a shame. I wish Hasbro could hold the course to the end of a show or toy line.

And yeah, I agree the fan base is reluctant to change. (ironic, right?) But I was actually excited and welcoming to see a good number of new lines... Animated didn't bother me, because it was stylized. Classics/Generations was great. Prime launching was fantastic. Machine Wars, Armada, Energon, and Cybertron all had some really great bots... and had me excited as well. Even the side lines of Titanium, PowerCore, FOC, WFC all got positive response from me.

On the flip side — it's funny the movie stuff bothered me, in spite of being very detailed — because it deviated from G1 so much. AND this line bothers me because it jumped the track from fairly realistic to child-like midway. If it were a new show, instead of a continuation, I think I'd have LOTS less problems with it.

All that said, I suppose we should ALL watch the show... see what they do with the aesthetics and characters, then see if we want to buy the matching toys. Eh?

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:55 pm

gothsaurus wrote:I think my biggest problem is the shift MIDWAY through a toy line.. and tv show. (ie. Tranformers Prime) Comparing the first edition toys with these, there's a big design change. It looks like a different toy line.

I'm probably one of the few that enjoys a shift in the feel of a toyline or show.

All that said, I suppose we should ALL watch the show... see what they do with the aesthetics and characters, then see if we want to buy the matching toys. Eh?

I'm going to buy any in-show character's toy regardless.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:03 pm

Well, I agree SOME kinda shift is good... like adding new characters or beasts or a new location or a power up or a color change.

And yeah, agreed. I'll be picking up Prime and Bee regardless. But the show will certainly have some bearing on if I get more. Looking forward to the next season!

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:04 pm

gothsaurus wrote:I think my biggest problem is the shift MIDWAY through a toy line.. and tv show. (ie. Tranformers Prime)

What about the shift from organic-looking beasts to Transmetals and Fuzors, and from those to Transmetal 2's, in Beast Wars? This is highly evocative of that very kind of shift. You could even call these "Transmetal 2 vehicles" (only with a lack of chrome).

Another example would be the shift from realistic to sci-fi styled vehicles and back and forth again in G1.

gothsaurus wrote:Comparing the first edition toys with these, there's a big design change. It looks like a different toy line. I think that's a shame. I wish Hasbro could hold the course to the end of a show or toy line.

It IS a different toyline. Transformers: Prime Beast Hunters will be the third (fourth if you include the Dark Energon line) toyline under the Prime franchise banner. TF: Prime is a rare case in that it's had more than one consecutive toyline running under its label.

gothsaurus wrote:AND this line bothers me because it jumped the track from fairly realistic to child-like midway.

Mad Max had a child-like look?

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:14 pm

okay, maybe I should say a change from realistic (in the original TFPrime) to, well, not very realistic. If I saw the new prime driving down the street, I'd say it looked like a toy. The first one, though, had a lot of detail... down to the rivets, pistons, corrugated panels, vents...

But yeah, I get what you are all saying about a new look.

I think the real test is the girlfriend test. My GF is gonna roll her eyes if I try to buy any toys from this line... same look she does when I try to watch Rescue Bots.

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:23 pm

Doesn't really matter to me, one way or the other. Even if I'm done with the TF Prime line, I'll still be enjoying the show. Fortunately, Generations is still decent enough for adult collectors and MP's going strong.

In any case, that BH voyager OP could turn out to be a nice "adult-worthy" figure, in the hands of a good customizer.

by **Hotrodimust** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:57 pm

RAcast wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:
This is even worse than I thought this figures weapon shoots discs lol that's way worse than mech tech. The prime line is totally kiddy now so sad

As far as accessories go, nothing is worse than MechTechs [that don't lock].

I disagree big goofy looking weapons that shoot stupid projectiles are IMO. That's the type of weapons that come with crappy 4" Spider-Man figures or gi joe movie figures. But everyone likes what they like and I like my figures a little more serious than kiddy.

Okay. That's your opinion, but almost every Transformers line has included these "kiddy" firing projectiles up until DOTM, so this is nothing new. Many of us, myself included, have longed the return of firing projectiles. Beast Hunters is bringing me what I want with that.

I have to agree. I'd much rather have firing projectiles than...the mechtech stuff. I mean, the mechtech idea COULD have been done really well, but it wasn't. I feel it wouldn't get better if it had continued, so better to just get rid of it. Also, projectiles are far more amusing than they should be...

I don't want either but I think big flying disc are worse than mech tech. At least some mech tech weapons looked like normal weapons and that's all I want. A cool looking gun or sword no giant goofy rocket launcher where the missile sticks half way out the barrel. Also I'm not totally against projectiles like the one that comes on generations warpath shoulder that's a good sized one but over sized goofy weapons I just don't like. I just like my figure to have a little more realistic look I guess and I guess that's why I enjoy more 3rd party figures more than hasbro these days. And most of the lines I collected didn't come with goofy projectiles and I collected a few lines.

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:18 pm

Hotrodimust wrote:I don't want either but I think big flying disc are worse than mech tech.

It's not a disc. It's a capturing ring, as in a hunting tool.

At least some mech tech weapons looked like normal weapons and that's all I want.

Because it was a live-action movie toyline. >:oP

by **Ultra Markus** » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:03 am

if anything he looks more like animated Optimus Prime
I like it

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:49 am

im surprised no one else has seen this or stated it yet. we have already seen this version of optimus prime, in the cartoon. from the Orion Pax episode trilogy. when optimus finds a fake image of Optimus Prime. theres some minor diffrences in the chest, and of course the image had 2 hands, but everything else is the same.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:56 am

Immortal Starscream wrote:im surprised no one else has seen this or stated it yet. we have already seen this version of optimus prime, in the cartoon. from the Orion Pax episode trilogy. when optimus finds a fake image of Optimus Prime. theres some minor diffrences in the chest, and of course the image had 2 hands, but everything else is the same.

I thought that was Ultra Magnus. :-?

News Credits: 1 · by **Autobot Joe** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:35 am

I think that is Ultra Magnus, not Optimus...

by **toddstarz** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:48 am

dont jinx it guys.. with a rumored weaponizer beast hunter ultra magnus otw i sure hope he is not a straight repaint of that op...

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:17 pm

Immortal Starscream wrote:im surprised no one else has seen this or stated it yet. we have already seen this version of optimus prime, in the cartoon. from the Orion Pax episode trilogy. when optimus finds a fake image of Optimus Prime. theres some minor diffrences in the chest, and of course the image had 2 hands, but everything else is the same.

I've mentioned that on the Official TFP thread months ago. It's even on the wiki. It's supposed to be Optimus, but my theory is that Soundwave encrypted Optimus' picture with Ultra Magnus.