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[Bumblebee21]

great now burn is going to brag

[Kurona]

I may have missed this, but in these pics we see Triggerhappy and Hot Rod as new Titanmaster Deluxes:



What's behind these guys? There should be two more right?

Adding Hot Rod to my wanted list! Another bot to even out the team if I ever find Wolfwire.

I can only make out a couple Chromedomes behind these guys, but the other two deluxes in Wave 3 are Breakaway (aka Getaway; this new toy being a redeco of Chromedome with a new head) and Twinferno (aka Doublecross).

[Bumblebee21]

Who is that in the rid warrior toys.
Highbrow or getaway/doublecross

[Sjeng]

Just googled wave 3.

Certainly wanna get Hot Rod. Maybe Doublecross/Twinferno.
Cetainly wave 2 Wolfwire. Maybe Chromedome.

Not to keen on that white Getaway CD repaint honestly...
Triggerhappy looks boring. I'd rather have Brainstorm if he will be available in the EU.
Highbrow and Mindwipe are okay, not sure about them.

So that means 1 bot and 1 con from each wave
A Belgian store is now selling Wave 1 for €19,99 each, a month after I bought them from the SAME store for about €24 each

I'll keep an eye on them though. I hope they'll get wave 2 and 3 soon too.

[Bumblebee21]

watch a review on triggerhappy that might change your mind about him because he is an impressive figure

mindwipe is great. highbrow is good if you get a tight head

[NovamusPrime3]

Who is that in the rid warrior toys.
Highbrow or getaway/doublecross

what I can see I do believe it is getaway because doublecross/twinferno has red shoulders where as the package we see has white shoulders hence I do believe that it is getaway

[Bumblebee21]

Who is that in the rid warrior toys.
Highbrow or getaway/doublecross

what I can see I do believe it is getaway because doublecross/twinferno has red shoulders where as the package we see has white shoulders hence I do believe that it is getaway

it could also be highbrow

[Hero Alpha]

Got my Doublecross(Twinferno)in the mail yesterday from BBTS and he is awesome. He has moved up to my fav TR figure spot, tied with Chromedome. All his joints feel the best and are tight, transformation is fun too. Just everything about him is great. He even has some gear molding on his chest in alt mode that mimics his old spark gimmick. Took a few pics.



Talk to the hand


Spark gear molding on his chest


Cool storage for his guns and headmaster

[Sjeng]

watch a review on triggerhappy that might change your mind about him because he is an impressive figure

mindwipe is great. highbrow is good if you get a tight head

Heh. You're right! xD

Well, if I add him to the list, that means I need another autobot... Might mean I need to really find Brainstorm now.

[Kurona]

watch a review on triggerhappy that might change your mind about him because he is an impressive figure

mindwipe is great. highbrow is good if you get a tight head

Heh. You're right! xD

Well, if I add him to the list, that means I need another autobot... Might mean I need to really find Brainstorm now.

Well, there's still three waves of deluxes to go after the Triggerhappy/Hot Rod one. So you've got a lot of choice.
In particular, one Wave 4 deluxe has already been revealed.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

great now burn is going to brag

In actuality, he has so many toys at this point that I'd expect him not to brag about mere deluxes.

...actually no. He has all the right to brag about THESE guys!

[Deadput]

So they are not in the USA yet I take it?


I'm going over to Helena for Black Friday shopping with family and I was hoping to find at least one of them.

[william-james88]

So they are not in the USA yet I take it?


I'm going over to Helena for Black Friday shopping with family and I was hoping to find at least one of them.

These have not been found at US retail yet.

[Deadput]

These have not been found at US retail yet.

So Christmas?

Think they will be around on boxing day

[Bumblebee21]

watch a review on triggerhappy that might change your mind about him because he is an impressive figure

mindwipe is great. highbrow is good if you get a tight head

Heh. You're right! xD

Well, if I add him to the list, that means I need another autobot... Might mean I need to really find Brainstorm now.

You could get all 4 of the deluxe headmasters.
scourge and blurr
triggerhappy and hot rod /doublecross
galvatron and alpha trion
astrotrain and broadside
megatron and optimus
soundwave and blaster
sixshot and pmop
black shadow and ??
metroplex and trypticon
fort max and scorp
omega and devy

[WreckerJack]

Images have surfaced of Titans Return Legends Wave three at Australian retailers. They were first seen at Toys'R'Us by members of the OTCA boards, more should show up at other retailers as the holiday shopping season progresses. This wave contains Gnaw the Sharkticon, Kickback and Bumblebee (not pictured). Have you spotted any other new toys in your area? Make sure to flag them up in our Sightings database and board section to help out other collectors!

[Bumblebee21]

hopefully US sightings will show up soon.

[Sjeng]

As the Netherlands and Belgium are still in wave 1-4 of Combiner Wars, and not even the whole waves available, and in wave 1 of Titans Return, also very sparingly, this won't happen very soon I'm afraid... :'(
I've spotted ONE shop that has Wheelie, Stripes and the tank legend (Frenzie? Rumble?), Galvatron, and another shop has Blaster and Soundwave and the four wave 1 Deluxes.
And they asked €15,99 for Wheelie... Chrissakes... Online you may have more luck, but those sell out fast.


Question though: Bombshell was a C.W. Legend. Kickback is a T.R. Legend. What's Shrapnel going to be?
And why did they make Chop Shop into a C.W. Legend, but not the other 3 (formerly Deluxe) G1 insecticons?

In both series, the Legends don't seem to really be "part" of the gimmick:
- in C.W. they didn't all combine, with the exception of the Blackjack/Rodimus mold, the Groove Legend mold, and the three guns (Shockwave, Bombshell, umm the red airplane?) and I really think only Shockwave was a good gun option.
The rest was just a seperate robot (Warpath, Chop Shop, the seeker guy (skywarp?), some cars/trucks etc)
- in T.R. they aren't headmasters.

So most of these seem to be a seperate line of robots, which makes me wonder why they chose to put some in the CW line and others in the TR line. Especially splitting up groups like the insecticons.
In the end it might not matter at all, since they seem to be seperate like I said, and they are all the same size, it's just a bit weird.

[Bumblebee21]

shrapnel is already out he came out in foc
we could use an updated one tho

[Kurona]

As the Netherlands and Belgium are still in wave 1-4 of Combiner Wars, and not even the whole waves available, and in wave 1 of Titans Return, also very sparingly, this won't happen very soon I'm afraid... :'(
I've spotted ONE shop that has Wheelie, Stripes and the tank legend (Frenzie? Rumble?), Galvatron, and another shop has Blaster and Soundwave and the four wave 1 Deluxes.
And they asked €15,99 for Wheelie... Chrissakes... Online you may have more luck, but those sell out fast.


Question though: Bombshell was a C.W. Legend. Kickback is a T.R. Legend. What's Shrapnel going to be?
And why did they make Chop Shop into a C.W. Legend, but not the other 3 (formerly Deluxe) G1 insecticons?

In both series, the Legends don't seem to really be "part" of the gimmick:
- in C.W. they didn't all combine, with the exception of the Blackjack/Rodimus mold, the Groove Legend mold, and the three guns (Shockwave, Bombshell, umm the red airplane?) and I really think only Shockwave was a good gun option.
The rest was just a seperate robot (Warpath, Chop Shop, the seeker guy (skywarp?), some cars/trucks etc)
- in T.R. they aren't headmasters.

So most of these seem to be a seperate line of robots, which makes me wonder why they chose to put some in the CW line and others in the TR line. Especially splitting up groups like the insecticons.
In the end it might not matter at all, since they seem to be seperate like I said, and they are all the same size, it's just a bit weird.

Shrapnel was actually a Legends class in the line before Combiner Wars; Thrilling 30.



Chop Shop's a new head redeco of him, hence why Chop Shop gets a toy and his comrades don't.

Every legend in TR actually interacts with the gimmick - the headmasters can sit in their vehicle modes or have some other form of interaction. Kickback in particular has the Titan Master stand in his cockpit in beast mode.

[Sabrblade]

shrapnel is already out he came out in foc

No, that was Kickback. Shrapnel, as "Skrapnel", came out after Generations FOC during Generations Thrilling 30.

[Bumblebee21]

shrapnel is already out he came out in foc

No, that was Kickback. Shrapnel, as "Skrapnel", came out after Generations FOC during Generations Thrilling 30.

oh i always get confused by that. i dont know why.

[King Kuuga]

Question though: Bombshell was a C.W. Legend. Kickback is a T.R. Legend. What's Shrapnel going to be?

Shrapnel, as Skrapnel, was a Thrilling 30 release.

And why did they make Chop Shop into a C.W. Legend, but not the other 3 (formerly Deluxe) G1 insecticons?

Because Chop Shop was an easy retool of Skrapnel while the other deluxe Insecticons would require new molds.

In both series, the Legends don't seem to really be "part" of the gimmick:
- in C.W. they didn't all combine, with the exception of the Blackjack/Rodimus mold, the Groove Legend mold, and the three guns (Shockwave, Bombshell, umm the red airplane?) and I really think only Shockwave was a good gun option.
The rest was just a seperate robot (Warpath, Chop Shop, the seeker guy (skywarp?), some cars/trucks etc)

What do you mean? The CW legends that didn't combine had the very important job of "making the combiners look huge and not getting stepped on". They sell the scale.
But seriously, the entire Generations line is rebranded even if not all figures fit into the gimmick. That's just how it is. Don't think too hard about it, just enjoy the cool toys.

- in T.R. they aren't headmasters.

No, but they are vehicles for Titan Masters. Every TR Legends figure has a cockpit or at least some posts for a Titan Master to sit in/stand on, which is more than CW did.

So most of these seem to be a seperate line of robots, which makes me wonder why they chose to put some in the CW line and others in the TR line. Especially splitting up groups like the insecticons.
In the end it might not matter at all, since they seem to be seperate like I said, and they are all the same size, it's just a bit weird.

Hasbro wants to diversify what's available in each line, which means spacing out distinctive characters like the purple insect transformers. And if they hadn't spaced them out, we wouldn't get Kickback with a cockpit for Titan Masters, which is pretty darn cool.

[Sjeng]

Thanks everyone for all the explanations!

Hasbro wants to diversify what's available in each line, which means spacing out distinctive characters like the purple insect transformers. And if they hadn't spaced them out, we wouldn't get Kickback with a cockpit for Titan Masters, which is pretty darn cool.

He had an opening chestplate in G1 too and so did the other 2 IIRC. It's cool that it fits titanmasters now though.

[Cobotron]

It's important to note also that Hasbro's model is dictated by their buyers (the retailers) price point rules, so Legends fill the slot of a lower price point.

Also Legends are just a cool class of fun toys!
And if you get REAL creative, you can combine most Legends with the Combiners. You just gotta BELIEVE!