The Energon Pub

[RAR]

I thought this deserved it's own thread.

To discuss things that have not been explained at all or poorly explained - and also to touch on things that were explained but in a comic or DVD extra that people might be unaware of.

Here is a few talking points to get us started.

1) Where is the spare Shard the Decepticons had
2) Why do so Many Transformers look like kitbashes or clones of each other
3) Where is Brains ?
4) How do you make Dinobabies
5) Where is The Fallen's ship
6) Where is the Autobot's ship (still on Mars ?) so why didn't they go get that one rather than build a new one - or is the one the Wreckers arrived in that ship and no one bothered to say so ?
7) What happened to Leadfoot's dog ?
7a) Are Brawl and Bonecrusher still alive when neither of them where shown being dumped in the ocean ?
9) What happened to Devastator/Brawl's tank form in real life - I hear it's disappeared.
10) If the Red bulldozer is Rampage - is the yellow one also Rampage ?
11) What happened to Scrapmetal - the Forklift was on set but isn't in the ROTF Movie as far as I can see (He's supposed to be Devastator's left hand)
12) Where are all the other Decepticon Constructicons - some of them just disappear from the movie. (like the one with the Volvo alt mode)
13) Why is the submarine treated as a Transformer - but doesn't transform
14) How come the damage the Transformers did to places like Paris and Shanghai gets brushed aside - but 'Remember Chicago' doesn't ?
15) Where did Bumblebee get his hammer from - and how come he can reconstitute himself ? Not to mention what happened to his rocket launchers ?

That sort of thing.

[shajaki]

[Insurgent]

1) used on megatron. The other shard piece was held by mikaela and used on jetfire. Seems like 1 ressurection per shard.

1a) why didn't sam just use his shard on optimus?

5) titan. One of saturns moons. Assuming you mean where he was parked with the hatchlings. Also assuming that was called the nemesis.

6)mars? Did i miss something? The xantium, the ship in dotm was stated to be the ship that brought the wreckers and the roft guys. The humans staate the xantium was slaved to an earth shuttle so we can keep some kind of control. The 07 guys never had a ship. I assume they were transported into the system by a ship that then flew onwards and the protoforms act like a halo drop.

10) credits saud yellow was Skipjack.

13) because it jumped it's moorings and drove itself, so guess it was. It just never went to robot mode. Or spoke.

14) because MURICA!!!!!

[TulioDude]

I also want some things explained in greater detail,but so far those are some easy ones to talk about

1) Where is the spare Shard the Decepticons had

It was used to revive Megatron

2) Why do so Many Transformers look like kitbashes or clones of each other

A tradition in the Transformers franchise

3) Where is Brains ?

He was shown leaving the main Autobot group in Age of Extinction

4) How do you make Dinobabies

I assume they found the hatchlings that the Decepticons were raising and they scanned the Dinobots

5) Where is The Fallen's ship

Probably in the same Solar system as us,since Megatron can travel relatively fast between the two places.

6) Where is the Autobot's ship (still on Mars ?) so why didn't they go get that one rather than build a new one - or is the one the Wreckers arrived in that ship and no one bothered to say so

When there was ever an ship on Mars?

7) What happened to Leadfoot's dog ?

Toy only character that didnt make into the final film

7a) Are Brawl and Bonecrusher still alive when neither of them where shown being dumped in the ocean ?

I assume they were dumped in the sea before Megatron.

9) What happened to Devastator/Brawl's tank form in real life - I hear it's disappeared.

The Tank used in the filiming?

10) If the Red bulldozer is Rampage - is the yellow one also Rampage ?
11) What happened to Scrapmetal - the Forklift was on set but isn't in the ROTF Movie as far as I can see (He's supposed to be Devastator's left hand)
12) Where are all the other Decepticon Constructicons - some of them just disappear from the movie. (like the one with the Volvo alt mode)

Watching Revenge of The Fallen more than once leads to the conclusion that there are multiples of each Construction ,like one Mixmaster forms Devastator and another one fights on his own.

13) Why is the submarine treated as a Transformer - but doesn't transform

In all the scenes its appeared,there is no contextual reason to have it Transform,but yeah it would been nice to see it.

14) How come the damage the Transformers did to places like Paris and Shanghai gets brushed aside - but 'Remember Chicago' doesn't ?

They arent forgotten,but Chigago had one of the biggest invasions so far,with Decepticons actively hunting civilians and using the city as a base.Also you can say,the people in the USA are more likely to remenber an invasion that took place in their own country.

15) Where did Bumblebee get his hammer from - and how come he can reconstitute himself ? Not to mention what happened to his rocket launchers ?

His ability to separe parts is the biggest mystery,but gaining weapons and minor upgrades between the movies became a regular thing.