The Energon Pub

News Credits: 2 · by **Sid Burn** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:02 am

Looks like a pretty solid hate vote for the Cybertron Runamuck mold which has been repainted WAAAAY to many times for such a crappy transformer.

I also vote for the Cyb Skywarp/ Thundercracker, they got boned toywise for cybertron.

I am pretty disappointed in the Blaster repaint as well, it just looks like a 'con that fell down in a paint store.

Shame Blaster wont get a true release.

by **Sylus** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:23 am

Armada Hot Shot, Energon Optimus Prime and Armada Smokescreen. Hot Shot and OP I still have, Smokescreen was introduced to Mr. Hammer and became a shattered individual :twisted:

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News Credits: 7 · by **shortround** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:06 am

Ahh armada hotshot looks so cute like the little brother you never wanted.

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:42 am

Energon Slugslinger gets my vote. I HATE that friggin thing!!!!!
HATE, HATE, HATE with HATE on top!!!!

Cyb Soundwave and his Blaster repaint aren't making me too happy either. BLEH!!!
I was soooooo excited to get him too, what a let down.

I agree with a few that Runamuck sucks, but I used him for scrap parts so he sacrificed well :-)

by **underdog** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:23 am

i hate beast wars transmetal megatron, the one where he has rollarblades on his feet.

I recently went to change it to robot mode and snap there goes his arm. Pissed off that it broke i went on a mission to find another one. 3 weeked later I found another at a local fleamart. I was stoked , i brought it home and snap there goes the same damn arm, I was so careful cause of what happened to the last one. What a piece of crap so i ended this miserable excuse for a transformers life with a few good stoompings, boy did it feel good and through it down the garbage shoot were it belongs.

I used to like this beast wars transformer the most but not anymore. hate hate hate it.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:09 am

There are too many for me to list...
But I definitely agree with Bonger;
after Soundwave, the Constructicons/Devastator are my favorite Decepticons.
No WAY should the Classics versions of these characters been repaints!!!
Seriously, what bullshit!!!!
And now, Hasbro will probably never release them again in the Classics line...
First, because I'm sure now they're trying to say, "Well, we've given The Constructicons/Devastator enough spotlight".
Plus, I'm sure they're hesitant now about re-doing them since they probably should produce another "team" if they start considering another combiner.

And that Blaster is WEAK!!
My opinion is that Soundwave and Blaster rely on their G1 alt. modes...
Is it limiting? Of course.
But people have already listed Cybertron Soundwave as one of their most hated Tf's...
This Blaster is no better. And because of the paint scheme, AND the lack of a proper head, it is a waste!!
We all know that there are better repaints that could be done,
since it looks like "Universe"
really means
"Lame justification to throw crappy repaints in your face".

What kills me is, did Hasbro really think we'd eat this stuff up just because we may be happy with the new molds in the line????

by **Bonger** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:15 am

Yes, Blaster and Devastator take hate to all new levels. Any other TF toy I didn't like, was based on the quality and value of that toy alone. However, these not only suck, but rob us of the possibility of a true Classics version. I realy do believe this pair are the pits.

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:10 am

Classics Jetfire. Looks cool standing to attention but try posing him - if you spread his legs with bent knees he goes knock-kneed - doesn't look so cool - more like a nerd in a space-suite. Rubbish articulation in the arms. And whoever thought of putting a swivel joint below the knee was an idiot. Swivel joints should always be ABOVE the knee - it makes the figure SO much more poseable.

Movie Dreadwing - a bow-legged geek.

by **MaP_Prime** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:23 am

The TF toys I truly hate the most have to be G1 Actionmasters, I want my Transformers to actually transform! I also despise anything associated with Beast Wars and Beast Machines, I thought the shows were entertaining, but damn it I HATE HATE and double HATE the toys.

I don't really have any complaints with Classics/Universe, but the Devastator set was a huge let down. Five tranformers instead of six? What the hell? And it doesn't even look like the Devastator I know and love. Give me a good, solid new Devastator please and not some crappy repaint. Also Universe Blaster. I like how the paint job makes him to be a Blaster homage, but damn it the Blaster I know is a tape deck!

by **khinyung** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:20 am

Transformers Universe TREADSHOT !!!!!! i bought him casue he came with ultramagnus. Thats a toy full of crap....its alien like toy not to say sideswipe is also built on that mold.

News Credits: 1 · by **Blackstreak** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:44 am

I would say my most hated Transformers are the Cybertron Combiners: Bruticus Maximus, Constructicon Maximus, and Superion Maximus. Why? The names are gay and they couldn't stand worth crap once combined. The members individually were great, but what also sucked about them is the appendages were basically repaints of each other. This in my opinion shows a lack of ingenuity. I bought them then turned around and got rid of 'em just as quick.

by **shakira** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:50 am

Maybe it does not count but I bought a KO Binaltech Wheeljack that is a piece of s*it. I thought it might be acceptable but damn this toy sucks. It looks better in the box. Other than that I dont buy ones I dont like. I did not like Classics Megatron at first but it really grew on me. Especailly after I got a good pose for him where his cannon does not look weetarded.

by **Bonger** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:10 am

shakira wrote:Maybe it does not count but I bought a KO Binaltech Wheeljack that is a piece of s*it. I thought it might be acceptable but damn this toy sucks. It looks better in the box. Other than that I dont buy ones I dont like. I did not like Classics Megatron at first but it really grew on me. Especailly after I got a good pose for him where his cannon does not look weetarded.

Haha, I fell for one of those too. I bought it, looked at it, never opened it, put it back on ebay. :lol:

by **AlienQuiksilver** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:11 am

I'll have to go with Energon Cliffjumper. Did "Bic" make that thing or what? :-x

by **abasi** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:13 pm

I have a Beast Machines Optimus Primal (the blue and gray one)
that i dispise

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:02 am

shakira wrote:...Other than that I dont buy ones I dont like.

I always research figures before I buy them. There's normally reviews published before the they become available over here in the UK so that's easy enough but sometimes reviews are misleading and you get a disappointment. I new I wouldn't like Leader Megs but I had to get him to go with Prime. Now I have him he's growing on me the more I play with him.

by **Arcee 1984** » Wed May 28, 2008 9:26 pm

The TF I hated most is Movie Swindle/ Camshaft cos his paint applications are coming out!!!I also HATE HATE HATE G1 redeco Starscream cos of his paint applications, Payload cos Payload's head, torso attachment to his automorph claw and grill frames keep on droping!!! :-(

by **Kanyon** » Wed May 28, 2008 10:22 pm

G.I. Joe Lametron. Just thinking about him..Crap he just fell apart on my bookshelf. Yep, just thinking of the figure makes all of em fall apart, even the ones still in the box.

Another vote is Cybertron Thundercracker and Skywarp, it's like Megaman had a one night stand with a F-16 hornet it looks like?

Bonecrusher just on the size, should've been a voyager at the least. Payload with his retarded 'stick bar' coming out of him. Bleh.

Thats all of em..Well just the ones I own that I dislike.

News Credits: 56 · by **BlackMagnus** » Wed May 28, 2008 10:25 pm

The first one to come to mind is Backstop.
Transformation is WAY to easy and come on one of his hands is his ass

News Credits: 3 · by **Emperor Galvatron** » Wed May 28, 2008 11:21 pm

Well, I have to say Universe Galvatron (deluxe? wtf), Energon Wing Saber (wanna talk bricks?), Supreme Cheetor, G2 Staxx, Cybertron Backstop, Armada Sideswipe, Energon Rodimus, Energon Inferno, Energon Ironhide, BW TM2 Megatron, any Autorollers, Minicon Nightbeat, G1 Blurr, and last, but certainly not least G1 Powerglide. (Maybe my extreme hatred of Powerglide's character is the cause...)

by **Dagon** » Thu May 29, 2008 11:06 am

Sowndwave76 wrote:There are too many for me to list...
But I definitely agree with Bonger;
after Soundwave, the Constructicons/Devastator are my favorite Decepticons.
No WAY should the Classics versions of these characters been repaints!!!
Seriously, what bullshit!!!!
And now, Hasbro will probably never release them again in the Classics line...
First, because I'm sure now they're trying to say, "Well, we've given The Constructicons/Devastator enough spotlight".
Plus, I'm sure they're hesitant now about re-doing them since they probably should produce another "team" if they start considering another combiner.

And that Blaster is WEAK!!
My opinion is that Soundwave and Blaster rely on their G1 alt. modes...
Is it limiting? Of course.
But people have already listed Cybertron Soundwave as one of their most hated Tf's...
This Blaster is no better. And because of the paint scheme, AND the lack of a proper head, it is a waste!!
We all know that there are better repaints that could be done,
since it looks like "Universe"
really means
"Lame justification to throw crappy repaints in your face".

What kills me is, did Hasbro really think we'd eat this stuff up just because we may be happy with the new molds in the line????

Trying? Every six months for like two years they released another Devastator. The Micromasters, the Target Landfill repaint, the Energon one, the Classics one. Devastator this and Devastator that. I know people love Devastator, but come on. The Combaticons just keep getting rereleased in their original forms and that's maddening enough. But Devastator? There's like a million different ones now. They SHOULD release a different combiner team, no question. No Devastator, no Bruticus, and I think the TFCC exclusive Seacons will end a possibility for them. I'd love a Predaking, but how about no Predaking either? Hows about something obscure or way underrepresented. Like the Stunticons or Technobots. Or Terrorcons. No more Devastators, please.

Sorry, end rant. Back to the thread I hijacked. Apologies.

by **Lockdown72** » Thu May 29, 2008 3:10 pm

I WOULD say Armada Hot Shot, but he was in all truth my 1st TF, so I can't badmouth him. Some others however...

Alternators Tracks mold: I have the Battle Ravage retool, and while he looks totaly Bad**s in robot mode and is one of my overall favorites, his transformation SUCKS! The hinges the doors attach onto extend far past where they should, so trying to push the legs in requires enough force to break a micromaster!

Cybertron Megs: Triple changer? My foot! There is only one step differing between his "two" altmodes (crappy car thing and crapy jet thing with wheels in front). G1's triple changers required at least two steps! And don't even get me STARTED about Cybertron Meg's horrible paint scheme.

Cybertron Mirage: The toy sucked in inumerable ways, and I don't even wanna talk about the cartoon's char of this guy.

Universe Blaster: A simple retooled head was ALL it would've taken for me to choose buying it over not buying it. Instead, we get a repaint of the same stupid mold from one of the WORST toy lines ever.
I'll take the much better Animated Soundwave please.

Cybertron Unicron: Why did they even bother with this toy. Unicron not only NEVER appears like this toy, he doesn't appear in the show, period!

Energon Ironhide: Who liked this guy anyway, as a toy OR as a charicter?

Movie Starscream: Voted "most underside kibble jet" and his head is CLEARLY visible in jet mode, too! Plus his arms suck :-x

Any "Movie Legends" figure: These are Happy meal toys IMO.

News Credits: 387 · by **Nekoman** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:23 pm

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Well, I have to say Universe Galvatron (deluxe? wtf)

To each their own, but sir, there’s almost no possible way you could own this toy. It’s not even shown up on eBay. Yes it’s small, but he could very well end up being the best figure from the entire line.

Lockdown72 wrote:Universe Blaster: A simple retooled head was ALL it would've taken for me to choose buying it over not buying it. Instead, we get a repaint of the same stupid mold from one of the WORST toy lines ever.
I'll take the much better Animated Soundwave please.

FYI a new head isn’t that simple. This repaint wasn’t planned a good two or three years ago. This being so, they didn’t put the alternant head in the mold like they do with almost every other repaint, going back and adding that would have been so expensive and troublesome they might as well have made a new mold.

Despite common belief a new head sculpt isn’t that easy, they usually have to plan that out before hand so they can put the other head in the mold. Which was why Sunstreaker and Prowl had repaints shown briefly after the molds were announced.

Also, care to tell me why you think it’s one of the worst lines ever? IMO Cybertron was one of the best lines ever. Almost ALL of the toys had awesome articulation and were well sculpted. Just curious.

News Credits: 5 · by **Sledge** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:29 pm

And as a further question: there was a Mirage in Cybertron?

by **Lockdown72** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:36 pm

Nekoman wrote:
Lockdown72 wrote:Universe Blaster: A simple retooled head was ALL it would've taken for me to choose buying it over not buying it. Instead, we get a repaint of the same stupid mold from one of the WORST toy lines ever.
I'll take the much better Animated Soundwave please.

FYI a new head isn’t that simple. This repaint wasn’t planned a good two or three years ago. This being so, they didn’t put the alternant head in the mold like they do with almost every other repaint, going back and adding that would have been so expensive and troublesome they might as well have made a new mold.

Also, care to tell me why you think it’s one of the worst lines ever? IMO Cybertron was one of the best lines ever. Almost ALL of the toys had awesome articulation and were well sculpted. Just curious.

Well, I mostly hate Cybertron because of the American version's dubbing, but I also dislike how some of the toys were poorly designed, like Megatron's jet mode, which is the same as carmode only with the front flipped aside, and Thunder-whatsherface, who as a major charicter should have benn better than a shellformer. Plus they simply replaced most minicons with cyberplanet keys (like Cybertron Blurr, who's only difference is a new head and a key hole in place of a minicon port! at least you got two figures with mini-cons). Now, I didn't say that it was the WORST TF line ever (Japan took care of that in their own country), because they did finally provide a true Primus/cybertron figure and Clocker is pretty cool.

And to answer sluge's question: yes there was, he was Tidal wave in a new body. And he was gay. As in he loved Megs to the point of doing a stupid pink heart dance.