The Energon Pub

[GetterDragun]

Last week, Transformers sold it's 13,901,422 DVD, bringing total DVD sales to $315,650,110. This combined with ticket sales brings Transformers to over $1 Billion dollars. I think we can all agree that Transformers is one of the top properties of all time, now bring on TF2!

Source: BoxOfficeMojo.com

[Solrac333]

Sweet! Ok, how many people bought multiple dvds?

[Bumblebeast]

Well, it can't be that bad. This should give the critics something to think about.

At least the fans responded.

Let's not even think about the toy sales !

[NuclearConvoy]

I only bought 1DVD.

[Zeds]

I bought multiple DVDs given all the bonuses being offered here, there and everywhere. Also saw the movie more than a few times. I helped out with about $200 of the $1B or 0.00002%!

Every little bit counts!

[Energon]

I am not surprised at the impressive numbers. I had seen TF at the box office a bunch of times, bought a HD player to play the TF HDDVD, got a second copy to play on my regular dvd player and now will have to get a blue ray player for the next movie. They are definately making money off of me.
Now if only we could get some decent toys with handsome robot faces to go with the next movie.....

[Buttz]

All the money in the world won't change the fact that this movie was utter crap. All the credit goes to the special effects people. The acting, writing, and especially the directing, were all utterly sub-par.

[Zeds]

All the money in the world won't change the fact that this movie was utter crap. All the credit goes to the special effects people. The acting, writing, and especially the directing, were all utterly sub-par.

Dude harsh. It had its failings but compared to Spiderman 3 the TFM was comparable to Gone With the Wind. Its all about the perspective you spin I guess.

[autobot commander]

All the money in the world won't change the fact that this movie was utter crap. All the credit goes to the special effects people. The acting, writing, and especially the directing, were all utterly sub-par.

also keep in mind that this is your opinion. and that the tfm didn't suck but it didn't rock ether

[***Galvatron***]

All the money in the world won't change the fact that this movie was utter crap. All the credit goes to the special effects people. The acting, writing, and especially the directing, were all utterly sub-par.

The movie was not perfect by any stretch but it was certainly a good start to this version of the franchise, I'd rather have this than an uber G1 hardcore version that would only appeal to that limited crowd, the movie would probably have bombed then.

This is one movie I've seen overly nit picked to death by a bunch of rabid fan boys acting like vultures ripping this movie to shreds over every little detail, what next ? will people start whining about how the dirt was laid out on optimus's windshield in the cgi shots ?

[Autobot032]

A billion? Wow.

Well, I'd say we should have a better sequel then. With that kind of dough coming in, they could easily bankrole a better production with more TF screen time.

[Heavy B]

Sweet! Ok, how many people bought multiple dvds?

right here baby. the target transforming case, and the wal mart 2 disc special

[NuclearConvoy]

A billion? Wow.

Well, I'd say we should have a better sequel then. With that kind of dough coming in, they could easily bankrole a better production with more TF screen time.

Make it 4 hours long, like the LotR extended editions!

[Autobot032]

A billion? Wow.

Well, I'd say we should have a better sequel then. With that kind of dough coming in, they could easily bankrole a better production with more TF screen time.

Make it 4 hours long, like the LotR extended editions!

I'd pull my face off with my own two hands long around the three hour mark. I love TransFormers, I love movies, I love the two combined, but I can't take that for three plus hours. Oh no.

[Me, Grimlock!]

How do they count precisely how many DVDs were sold?

[Rampage01]

Make it 4 hours long, like the LotR extended editions!

To quote Optimus Primal, "By Primus! NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

The regular LOTR movies are too long as it is, much less the extended length versions. 4 hours way too long for any movie, TFs or otherwise.

[NuclearConvoy]

Make it 4 hours long, like the LotR extended editions!

To quote Optimus Primal, "By Primus! NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

The regular LOTR movies are too long as it is, much less the extended length versions. 4 hours way too long for any movie, TFs or otherwise.

Further proof that the average adult attention span is too short.
I've seen the extended LotR and didn't mind it at all.

[***Galvatron***]

Make it 4 hours long, like the LotR extended editions!

To quote Optimus Primal, "By Primus! NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

The regular LOTR movies are too long as it is, much less the extended length versions. 4 hours way too long for any movie, TFs or otherwise.

Further proof that the average adult attention span is too short.
I've seen the extended LotR and didn't mind it at all.

Has anyone watched all three extended versions back to back ? I have and it was really intense.

[dragons]

i bought every version of the dvds and i cant believe im saying this i also bought the walmaert exclusive dvd package every version except for the hd dvd version im waiting for the blueray edition if there is one

[Rampage01]

Make it 4 hours long, like the LotR extended editions!

To quote Optimus Primal, "By Primus! NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

The regular LOTR movies are too long as it is, much less the extended length versions. 4 hours way too long for any movie, TFs or otherwise.

Further proof that the average adult attention span is too short.
I've seen the extended LotR and didn't mind it at all.

This is where you and I are going to have to agree to disagree.

There are things that I'm quite willing to sit down and do for several hours straight, but watching a movie isn't one of them.

[Buttz]

The movie was not perfect by any stretch but it was certainly a good start to this version of the franchise, I'd rather have this than an uber G1 hardcore version that would only appeal to that limited crowd, the movie would probably have bombed then.

This is one movie I've seen overly nit picked to death by a bunch of rabid fan boys acting like vultures ripping this movie to shreds over every little detail, what next ? will people start whining about how the dirt was laid out on optimus's windshield in the cgi shots ?

The thing is that it didn't have to be that, nor did it have to be the turdfest it turned out to be. Take Iron Man for example. It has a broad appeal because it's a well-made and entertaining movie.
Why? Because it was made by a competent director who understands and loves movies, rather than some egomaniacal buffon who loves himself more than anything in the world, except for maybe possibly money. Whenever I fast-forward through the DVD(I got it as a gift, I'm never spending another cent on anything Michael Bay-related)and I accidentally land on the wrong scene, I have no idea if the effects shot I'm looking for is before or after, because the "plot" is just indistinguishable filler and I can't tell one scene apart from the next.

I forgot what I was talking about. Anyway this movie was crap. It could've elevated Transformers to something more than cartoons and toys, but instead it was just another bloated and forgettable piece of Michael Bay garbage.

[T-Macksimus]

The only thing I have to say (although I'm dying to say plenty) to the fans who have nothing but rude or disparaging remarks about the movie, beside "Pull the stick out!" is that whether you liked the movie or not, they still got your money, you still helped get it to the 1 Billion mark. So, as much as it may piss some people off, on behalf of the rest of us who are glad to see it hit that mark I respectfully say "Thanks for your contribution"

And yeah, I have my own copy (The Target exclusive) and my kids have their own copy (Wal-Mart Exclusive) on top of my seeing it multiple times in the theatre including once at the IMAX theater. I'm VERY happy to have made my contribution.

[NuclearConvoy]

The only thing I have to say (although I'm dying to say plenty) to the fans who have nothing but rude or disparaging remarks about the movie, beside "Pull the stick out!" is that whether you liked the movie or not, they still got your money, you still helped get it to the 1 Billion mark. So, as much as it may piss some people off, on behalf of the rest of us who are glad to see it hit that mark I respectfully say "Thanks for your contribution"

And yeah, I have my own copy (The Target exclusive) and my kids have their own copy (Wal-Mart Exclusive) on top of my seeing it multiple times in the theatre including once at the IMAX theater. I'm VERY happy to have made my contribution.

I wanted to see it in IMAX.
Were there really added bits to the Jazz/Megatron fight?

[***Galvatron***]

The movie was not perfect by any stretch but it was certainly a good start to this version of the franchise, I'd rather have this than an uber G1 hardcore version that would only appeal to that limited crowd, the movie would probably have bombed then.

This is one movie I've seen overly nit picked to death by a bunch of rabid fan boys acting like vultures ripping this movie to shreds over every little detail, what next ? will people start whining about how the dirt was laid out on optimus's windshield in the cgi shots ?

The thing is that it didn't have to be that, nor did it have to be the turdfest it turned out to be. Take Iron Man for example. It has a broad appeal because it's a well-made and entertaining movie.
Why? Because it was made by a competent director who understands and loves movies, rather than some egomaniacal buffon who loves himself more than anything in the world, except for maybe possibly money. Whenever I fast-forward through the DVD(I got it as a gift, I'm never spending another cent on anything Michael Bay-related)and I accidentally land on the wrong scene, I have no idea if the effects shot I'm looking for is before or after, because the "plot" is just indistinguishable filler and I can't tell one scene apart from the next.

I forgot what I was talking about. Anyway this movie was crap. It could've elevated Transformers to something more than cartoons and toys, but instead it was just another bloated and forgettable piece of Michael Bay garbage.

As I stated already it was not perfect but I thought it was a good enough start and hopefully they will make things better in the next movies otherwise then people will start losing faith but it was certainly not a turd fest as you describe it.

As far as broad appeal ? Over 700 million dollars worldwide in box office sales alone sounds like wide stream appeal to me and the countless stories of completely NON transformers fans let alone Sci Fi fans including a lot of my family members went to see it multiple times which is exactly why Bay and his crews did some of the changes they did otherwise it would have been nothing but two and a half hours of uber hardcore G1 fan wank and more than likely would have been a big flop at the box office.

[Autobot032]

The only thing I have to say (although I'm dying to say plenty) to the fans who have nothing but rude or disparaging remarks about the movie, beside "Pull the stick out!" is that whether you liked the movie or not, they still got your money, you still helped get it to the 1 Billion mark. So, as much as it may piss some people off, on behalf of the rest of us who are glad to see it hit that mark I respectfully say "Thanks for your contribution"

And yeah, I have my own copy (The Target exclusive) and my kids have their own copy (Wal-Mart Exclusive) on top of my seeing it multiple times in the theatre including once at the IMAX theater. I'm VERY happy to have made my contribution.

I wanted to see it in IMAX.
Were there really added bits to the Jazz/Megatron fight?

From what I was told directly, and heard from others, was that nothing was added to the scenes with robots, but more human interaction scenes had been added. A good 4-5 minutes worth.

To know which ones were reintegrated, you'd need to read the leaked treatment from 2006. It has all of the scenes in it and you could see which ones were cut from normal release.

Such as:

- Sam's father picking him up from Jail and Sam asking him if he was crazy like his grandfather.

- Epps and Lennox going into a pawn shop to get the walkie talkies that you see them call the airstrike with, just before Blackout is blown apart. While in the pawn shop, the owner tries to make her move on Epps. (or is it Lennox?) (supposed to be a really funny scene.)

And there's a few others.