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News Credits: 104 · by **Cyber Bishop** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:07 pm

Serpent O - R wrote:
DevastaTTor wrote:
GetterDragun wrote:Why do I think that this is going to turn into Jetfire? Very similar stance.

After seeing this, I'm completely convinced that's what is joint to happen. After seeing that he's a Cybertronian jet, it makes complete sense.

Careful... You need to have two braincells firing simultaneously to make that connection, we don't want to confuse the public school students.

You still have not replied to my question in this thread.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=48793&p=874492#p874492

Who is Omnus? They are posting from your same IP. Duplicate Id maybe? Care to explain?

by **oldskooltf** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:44 pm

So... I was wrong that "The Fallen" would not be in this movie. He will.

I think I'm also wrong in thinking that "The Fallen" will end up as Jetfire... but, there's still a very small chance. I mean Skyfire/Jetfire was the first TF to "fall" into the earth when he explored Earth with Starscream in the original cartoon. Perhaps they used that as inspiration for this movie. I highly doubt it, but like I said... it's a (very small) possibility.

Of course, if one of those leaked stories I read about Wheelie discovering Jetfire in some hanger is true... then I say no way that Jetfire = The Fallen.

by **IAmThePeej** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:04 pm

On topic: The Fallen toy looks ok at best in my opinion, not too fond of him so far. I still think its a bad call on MB's part to put a pretty obscure character in a movie that is both tailored to fans and general moviegoers, unless they put in about 30 minutes of backstory to at least cover who and what the fallen is. Sad part is, even people who are fans, unless they're die-hard fans, don't know who The Fallen is (myself included) unless they read the Dreamwave(?) comics. Even then, take a look at how inconsistent the storytelling was in the first movie.

YRQRM0 wrote:...I still think it's possible he's the giant rolling guy in the trailer, seeing how huge he was. But this is seriously ugly...

Off topic: The "giant rolling guy" from the trailer is one of the Constructicons, we've already seen his toy in both modes, I'm just waiting for his name to be Scrapper since that is who he resembles the most, and what I've been calling him since I first saw his toy. Everyone who is a fan at my job is now following suit.

News Credits: 21 · by **dragons** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:08 pm

i thought at first that orange thing on top of his head was his face then i see where his face is its to green cant tell teh detail on his or where it is if look at first glance.

very impressive and egyption like

he almost looks like these guys from the yugioh tv series forgot the first guys name

News Credits: 1 · by **Blackstreak** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:11 pm

Would be nice if the pictures actually showed. :-x

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:24 pm

very nice I want a leaderclass version!

News Credits: 1 · by **T-Macksimus** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:30 pm

dragons wrote:i thought at first that orange thing on top of his head was his face then i see where his face is its to green cant tell teh detail on his or where it is if look at first glance.

very impressive and egyption like

he almost looks like these guys from the yugioh tv series forgot the first guys name

The big guy up there is Exodia and I'll have to run the Fallens pic. by my oldest son when I visit with my kids tomorrow to see if he makes the connection there too. The bulk of what I know about Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon games and cartoons is because of him so it will be interesting to see if he picks up on it that quick, but I agree that there are some shared elements there.
The thing that I cant believe is that they are throwing this guy in on top of Starscream returning and the introduction of Soundwave and Ravage and the Constructicons. Even with new Autobot troops I really don't think they needed another freaking challenge. They were already well on their way to having their butts handed to them.

by **YoImLegend** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:41 pm

He might be a jet but he's still got a tank ass. Hope he translates well to the screen

I'm having a hard time admitting this, but I'm a little scared about the general audience with all this... like all they might see is Megazords and Alien. Do I not have enough faith in... well... people?

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:23 pm

So, Waspinator was part of the First 13, after all... :lol:

by **lsoul5** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:40 pm

Chaoslock wrote:So, Waspinator was part of the First 13, after all...

No he wasn't, the 13 were the first transformers and all primes they include Vector Prime, Alpha Trion, and Prima. Anyways this fallen looks like he could be movie waspinator... I'm disappointed. Where are his flames?

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:04 pm

I didnt know transformers were crossing over with bionicle. Looks interesting but i cant call that a Transformer. Ill have to see more before i decide to buy or not. Hell need to see more to even decide if i like it.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:15 pm

lsoul5 wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:So, Waspinator was part of the First 13, after all...

No he wasn't, the 13 were the first transformers and all primes they include Vector Prime, Alpha Trion, and Prima. Anyways this fallen looks like he could be movie waspinator... I'm disappointed. Where are his flames?

Anyway, he reminds me of this guy:

http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NE ... oose1a.jpg
http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NE ... oose1b.jpg

News Credits: 1 · by **T-Macksimus** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:45 pm

lsoul5 wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:So, Waspinator was part of the First 13, after all...

No he wasn't, the 13 were the first transformers and all primes they include Vector Prime, Alpha Trion, and Prima.

He HAS to be one of the 13 or in some way related to the Primes! How else do you explain a character who has racked up as many "deaths", if not more, than Optimus but just wont stay dead? He's probably the only character in Decepticon/Predacon history that has been shot more times by his own leader or team-mates than Starscream.

Only other explanation would be to say "The Force is strong with this one!" but I think several of the fans out there aren't going to buy into that explanation either. 8-}

Unless he's meant to bring balance to the Matrix... :-?

What?!? Why can't Waspinator = The Fallen??? Like it's any more preposterous than Wheelie getting a shot at a 2nd movie? Michael Bay has alredy messed with everyones reality, I'm just spreading the "love" around.

News Credits: 1 · by **roll out** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:16 pm

This news just gets better and better but i cant wait for devs

News Credits: 7 · by **Omega Charge** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:30 pm

Very, very awesome. Does look to be a Voyager, maybe a Deluxe. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Leader though.

by **kazmagnus** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:35 pm

Ok here's the deal im pretty much 100% positive that this fallen toy is leader class, here's why.. #1 he's got the twist ties on in robot mode and judging bye the last movie leader class toys only the leader class where in there boxes in robot form #2 the back of the toy shows the screw holes in his back there are alot of screw holes in his back i checked and double checked all of my tf 1 movie toys and deluxes don't even come close to having that many screws again either do the voyagers close but nope and my megatron prime and brawl leader class are caked in screw holes..so like i said im pretty much 100% positive he's a leader class

by **LordGrift** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:37 pm

Tell me what's going on with this cybertronian jet idea? I thought that The Fallen is supposed to be some epic ancient Decepticon not just a jet like Megs, Starscrem, Jetfire, Dreadwing and so on! And speaking about Jetfire, If the idea that he is Jetfire turn out to be true it would be the most retarded thing about Bayformers! How is he going to combine with Prime?!

News Credits: 26 · by **Wheeljack35** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:02 pm

Its about as bad as Megatron was

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:17 pm

now that i think about it he has to be a leader or deluxe the instructions start from the robot mode which is what the deluxe figures are packed in or it could be a leader but it's not a voyager so I'm thinkin this is a deluxe.

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:46 pm

I'm not a big fan. Looks like the Renegade Vamp. I might like the vehicle mode, and I do like the arms. That's about it.

by **Nemesis_Apoc** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:58 pm

he reminds me a lot of Don Figureoa's concept art for cybertron vector prime

by **Kyrie** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:05 pm

Another one futuristic jet? Boring...

by **FortisVox** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:10 pm

LordGrift wrote:Tell me what's going on with this cybertronian jet idea? I thought that The Fallen is supposed to be some epic ancient Decepticon not just a jet like Megs, Starscrem, Jetfire, Dreadwing and so on! And speaking about Jetfire, If the idea that he is Jetfire turn out to be true it would be the most retarded thing about Bayformers! How is he going to combine with Prime?!

ON TOPIC: I think this is one bad-ass looking toy, and promises to be one bad-ass character, even if he is brought in to set up the third film.

OFF TOPIC: He is not Jetfire!

and The Fallen was a Cybertronian Tank, and now he's a Cybertronian Jet...

I, for one, understand the switch, because how much of a threat can you be when you are stuck on land as a tank, and let's not forget, IT IS A DIFFERENT TRANSFORMERS UNIVERSE, FFS!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fallen_(Transformers)
...just in case anyone isn't familiar with The Fallen

They should rename this and all threads suggesting this ridiculous Fallen/Megatron/Jetfire talk as "How to beat a Dead Horse into Glue"