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[ScottyP]

And architects know where to put pieces together...I'll now be very dissatisfied if it isn't, this all fits together very well

Functionists would be fine, but careful with that last part! The ink is dry on these books (story-wise) so if things don't happen as you expect, as long as it's good try to remember to enjoy the ride regardless

[DarkEnergon]

Were there 12 knights of cybertron and 12 functionist council members?

[Randomhero]

It has to be them. There’s no one it can logically be. Anyone else just doesn’t make sense.

Why would megatron come back. He thought he got they left behind to give them a second chance. Even though his chest is cleverly hidden I think that’s just for everyone say “what’s going on there?!” And he’s still sporting the autobot badge. I won’t be surprised if he isn’t

[Randomhero]

Were there 12 knights of cybertron and 12 functionist council members?

No there were thousands of Knights. We saw them in the recording but I think the crew that made it back to Cybertron with the Matrix were the future functionalist council.

If it is them, are they the functionists from the main universe or the counter universe or both. Megatron returns for a reason and he’s not alone. I just think he drove them off Cybertron and they wound up in this universe in the past. They combined together and formed the super spark that skids saw.

[ZeroWolf]

And architects know where to put pieces together...I'll now be very dissatisfied if it isn't, this all fits together very well

Functionists would be fine, but careful with that last part! The ink is dry on these books (story-wise) so if things don't happen as you expect, as long as it's good try to remember to enjoy the ride regardless

Well I'll enjoy the cast interactions as always, I mean regardless of who the big bad is, Rodimus and co always entertain. I think it's just more that the big bad being the functionalist council, would be the best ending, on the other hand though, I guess, we all thought that about Tarn and Roller and look what happened there.

[Randomhero]

And architects know where to put pieces together...I'll now be very dissatisfied if it isn't, this all fits together very well

Functionists would be fine, but careful with that last part! The ink is dry on these books (story-wise) so if things don't happen as you expect, as long as it's good try to remember to enjoy the ride regardless

Well I'll enjoy the cast interactions as always, I mean regardless of who the big bad is, Rodimus and co always entertain. I think it's just more that the big bad being the functionalist council, would be the best ending, on the other hand though, I guess, we all thought that about Tarn and Roller and look what happened there.

Not for one second did I think roller was Tarn. I never thought it was him due to all the blatant clues that were just screaming it’s roller and that’s not how Roberts writes and that’s exactly what they were.

I always thought it was proteus or the original Magnus since we never saw their death. Happy I was wrong but never once did I see Tarn as Roller.

[Randomhero]

The thing about Roller and Tarn is becuase some people saw the circled vents on the side of his head and for years bothered Roberts about it. Roberts just went with it for fun but always intended him being Glitch.

With my theory about the functionalist, that just make sense. It’s certainly makes more sense than quintessons who haven't been established at all in MTMTELL or even Overlord retuning but that’s just because people just weren’t happy with his ending in Requiem but what else were you gonna do with him? They made him stupid powerful and unbeatable and had to be clever to get rid of him. Overlord was nothing but a side character in MTMTE and loved him so much they wanted him to be the next megatron or Starscream or Shockwave. He was a powerful thug. It was more fitting to have Nick write his demise than anyone else.

[ZeroWolf]

I agree about overlord, there's not a lot more to be done with him and no rivals really to have a confrontation with aboard the LL. As you say much better that Nick got to write his end.

[Randomhero]

I don’t want it to sound like I don’t like Overlord I do. Hell I bought Legends m Overlord becuase I wanted the feminine face and I treat him as IDW Overlord but I’m not gonna say he’s one of the best characters in IDW. I hated his origin and I’m really not a fan of how he was portrayed by Roberts. In LSOTW he was a war general and a feared one and you did get a feel that the Wreckers probably could have defeated him. In MTMTE he was made into wolverine and made to be this unstoppable killing machine that was just obsessed with megatron and I didn’t like that. It really became “well how do you beat him?” Same reason I’m not the biggest DJD fan. They were fun in their introduction and then they slaughtered 200 autobots with ease and by their next appearance needed help to find and kill megatron. I just didn’t like it. They were overpowered until the script didn’t want them to be.

With Overlord, his story was told. He’s not making a miraculous return becuase he died. You see him dying from his dialogue as his first half is tossed into the gate with his speech starting to get worse.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Just saying, potential spoiler:

Alex Milne is working on Unicron and included in his sketches that he posts that are usually for a book he's working on due out in 2 to 3 months, Autobot Megatron is there, just posted earlier today. So it looks like Autobot Megatron will make an appearance in something Milne inked, even if for a panel

Also, I'm still not so unsure about organics and Quintessons being involved. Afterall, the Magnificence responded to the grand architect, and it has been said that it cannot resist anything tainted with organics. I like the functionist theory, but I'm not on board with it entirely.

Plus, with regards to the final villain, Glitch was someone that only piqued a few peoples suspicions of being Tarn, and had Roberts not had Megatron say his name, his physical self didn't even look like it, so we would never have known.

[ZeroWolf]

I just rather it not be the quints, plus it does raise the question of why they would refer to megatron like that when they've had no story matter since...Monstrosity? It's just a bit of a stretch compared to the funcionists.

Also the bit that you spoilered? Interesting, We'll see how that pans out, if at all.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I just rather it not be the quints, plus it does raise the question of why they would refer to megatron like that when they've had no story matter since...Monstrosity? It's just a bit of a stretch compared to the funcionists.

Also the bit that you spoilered? Interesting, We'll see how that pans out, if at all.

Yeah, not sure how 100% of a spoiler it is, but he's consistent, so I figured it might actually be something.

[Randomhero]

Just saying, potential spoiler:

Alex Milne is working on Unicron and included in his sketches that he posts that are usually for a book he's working on due out in 2 to 3 months, Autobot Megatron is there, just posted earlier today. So it looks like Autobot Megatron will make an appearance in something Milne inked, even if for a panel

Also, I'm still not so unsure about organics and Quintessons being involved. Afterall, the Magnificence responded to the grand architect, and it has been said that it cannot resist anything tainted with organics. I like the functionist theory, but I'm not on board with it entirely.

Plus, with regards to the final villain, Glitch was someone that only piqued a few peoples suspicions of being Tarn, and had Roberts not had Megatron say his name, his physical self didn't even look like it, so we would never have known.

It’s not just organic. It can choose. It chose to speak to Nickel as well. It speaks when it wants to.

I wouldn’t put too much cred on Alex’s Twitter He can’t post spoiler stuff and he’s good at that. Alex just posts a lot stuff, some Commissions and some stuff he plays around with.

[Randomhero]

That’s not exactly true about glitch. There’s clues all in all of his appearances in the past and clues during skids flashbacks. Someone even posted his theory that glitch was Tarn on Reddit and showed the clues months before the reveal and that poor soul was laughed off Reddit by other posts telling him he wrong and that it’s Roller.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I wouldn’t put too much cred on Alex’s Twitter He can’t post spoiler stuff and he’s good at that. Alex just posts a lot stuff, some Commissions and some stuff he plays around with.

The main thing was he said "One last time" and with Unicron, he has suspended doing commissions until after he's finished, so there's that too

[ZeroWolf]

That’s exactly true about glitch. There’s clues all in all of his appearances in the past and clues during skids flashbacks. Someone even posted his theory that glitch was Tarn on Reddit and showed the clues months before the reveal and that poor soul was laughed off Reddit by other posts telling him he wrong and that it’s Roller.

Ah but at least they got the last laugh, which is more important

[Randomhero]

I wouldn’t put too much cred on Alex’s Twitter He can’t post spoiler stuff and he’s good at that. Alex just posts a lot stuff, some Commissions and some stuff he plays around with.

The main thing was he said "One last time" and with Unicron, he has suspended doing commissions until after he's finished, so there's that too

Still id wait to see it. Could be anything. Inventive cover or something.

[ArmadaPrime]

Were there 12 knights of cybertron and 12 functionist council members?

The Knights were a huge group, but there were 12 Council members.

However, that's sparked a theory that I'm going to put under spoiler tags because I really do think it might be true. (Then again, I still think that about my previous theory regarding Rung and the Magnificence, so maybe by this point I've driven myself doo-lally with theories ...
Anyhow:
Rung is the thirteenth member of the functionist council.

To elaborate, briefly:

Thirteen is a well-established Important Number in the mythos, particularly through the Primes
Notably, the Primes are almost always down a member (sometimes The Fallen/Megatronus, sometimes The Arisen/Optimus) in any given continuity
Rung is really old
Like, really old. He can't remember a lot of his earlier years
Rung has a slender 'bot mode with no discernible alt-mode kibble and a round glowy thing on his chest; as do the Council
Rung turns into an indiscernible Thing with no function. The Council believed they combined into the Key to Vector Sigma, but Vector Sigma didn't need a key- they also have no function. If all thirteen members combined their alt-modes, perhaps they would have a function...

[ZeroWolf]

That's certainly one of the better theories I've heard, so thanks for sharing question is...what is the function...

[ArmadaPrime]

Cheers! In fairness though, that's where I come a little unstuck... I still think there's a link to the Magnificence though, so maybe something to do with that?

[ZeroWolf]

Hmm...I do wonder what the magnificence's part in this is. The fun is in the finding out though it comes with the realisation that we are near the end now

[Va'al]

The final preview today from IDW Publishing's Transformers comics features the three opening pages of the next issue of ongoing series Lost Light, and spoilers directly from page 1.

As such, we are not mirroring the images below, as people who are not caught up with issue #21 will have that ending spoiled well in advance of their own reading experience. We are however linking to the full preview pages with art by Brendan Cahill here and below, by clicking on the Nick Roche / Josh Burcham variant cover.

The final battle begins—and when it’s over, nothing will be the same. Everything that Lost Light—and More Than Meets The Eye before it—has thrown at you, from the biggest plot twist to the smallest incidental detail, has been leading to this: all your favorites, arm-in-arm, hand-in-hand, ready to go out in style.

[ZeroWolf]

*goes and reads the preview*

Well...kudos Roberts...you've certainly exceeded my expectations. Now prove to me that you know what you're doing

[Black Bumblebee]

Well... that's a thing that's... um... happening

[Black Bumblebee]

Just learned from another board that the ENTIRE ISSUE is already available for digital download. Already read it, but obviously I'll keep spoilers to myself.