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Wolfman Jake wrote:I don't understand how some people could be unimpressed by Siege Optimus Prime and Megatron. They are figures of beauty, and representations of these iconic characters that have been a long time coming. They're the right scale, look right, and aren't mold shares with classically unrelated characters. I remember a lot of people being tired of Bumblebee toys in Generations when the Titans Return Legends Bumblebee came out, despite it being the best Bumblebee toy we've ever gotten in Generations, in terms of scale, sculpt, and G1 likeness. My reaction is "at last," not "oh well, too little, too late."
Randomhero wrote:Yeah I kinda wish we’d stop having such a heavy G1 theme anymore. I like seiege just fine but I enjoyed Classics more when it came out and it was G1 characters but with a modernized look. Now it’s just “make it as G1 as possible but with knees and elbows” I get it but I just want something new. Beast wars new. No autobot and Decepticons. Create new factions, entire new fiction for them.
william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yeah I kinda wish we’d stop having such a heavy G1 theme anymore. I like seiege just fine but I enjoyed Classics more when it came out and it was G1 characters but with a modernized look. Now it’s just “make it as G1 as possible but with knees and elbows” I get it but I just want something new. Beast wars new. No autobot and Decepticons. Create new factions, entire new fiction for them.
After seeing so much of "almost G1 but not quite" over the years I think we need this catharsis. We need Hasbro and their head designers to let it out of their systems once and for all, and then I think we can all move on since we have finally had a solid base to move on from.
william-james88 wrote:After seeing so much of "almost G1 but not quite" over the years I think we need this catharsis.
leokearon wrote:TR was great because it was mostly characters who hadn't gotten an update, part of Siege's problem is that it seems to be (mostly) the same old 84/85 line.
william-james88 wrote:leokearon wrote:TR was great because it was mostly characters who hadn't gotten an update, part of Siege's problem is that it seems to be (mostly) the same old 84/85 line.
But, as stated, we dont have decent updates to many of those characters, like the Seekers, Shockwave, Soundwave. At least not at the proper scale.
leokearon wrote:william-james88 wrote:leokearon wrote:TR was great because it was mostly characters who hadn't gotten an update, part of Siege's problem is that it seems to be (mostly) the same old 84/85 line.
But, as stated, we dont have decent updates to many of those characters, like the Seekers, Shockwave, Soundwave. At least not at the proper scale.
Personally I don't care for scale, especailly as it keeps flucuating
As for (decent) updates)Starscream just got a Voyager in POTP, Soundwave got a Leader in TR, Optimus and Meggie had Yoyagers already in TR. Do we really need new version of characters who had new toys about 2 years ago
william-james88 wrote:leokearon wrote:william-james88 wrote:leokearon wrote:TR was great because it was mostly characters who hadn't gotten an update, part of Siege's problem is that it seems to be (mostly) the same old 84/85 line.
But, as stated, we dont have decent updates to many of those characters, like the Seekers, Shockwave, Soundwave. At least not at the proper scale.
Personally I don't care for scale, especailly as it keeps flucuating
As for (decent) updates)Starscream just got a Voyager in POTP, Soundwave got a Leader in TR, Optimus and Meggie had Yoyagers already in TR. Do we really need new version of characters who had new toys about 2 years ago
Hell yeah we do, the ones you mentioned dont cut it for me, at all. But thats because
a) I would like unique molds if the characters are not known for having a similar body
b) I (unlike you) care about somewhat of a consisten scale.
I am not alone in thinking the two points above and I am sure i am not alone in thinking that POTP Starsream is not a decent Starscream.
So yes, we do need these toys, thats what the entire article is about. You can always choose not to buy them and wait for Hasbro to release something more up your alley. It would give your wallet a break while mine weeps
william-james88 wrote:leokearon wrote:TR was great because it was mostly characters who hadn't gotten an update, part of Siege's problem is that it seems to be (mostly) the same old 84/85 line.
But, as stated, we dont have decent updates to many of those characters, like the Seekers, Shockwave, Soundwave. At least not at the proper scale.
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:leokearon wrote:TR was great because it was mostly characters who hadn't gotten an update, part of Siege's problem is that it seems to be (mostly) the same old 84/85 line.
But, as stated, we dont have decent updates to many of those characters, like the Seekers, Shockwave, Soundwave. At least not at the proper scale.
I don’t know. The classic seeker mold still holds up. People are tired of seeing it yes but it’s enginering and articulation are still up to date. I know people want the mold to be same height as say a megatron due to Starscream but with that comes the fact it’s more expensive which means you will not get every memeber. That’s why I think that mold is still the best version. It’s was well crafted and affordable to make the 5 dozen repaints and retools it got.
Randomhero wrote:I don’t know. The classic seeker mold still holds up. People are tired of seeing it yes but it’s enginering and articulation are still up to date.
CobraKai wrote:I agree. I do love the G1 stuff, don’t get me wrong; it’s why I got so heavy into Titan Returns and am looking forward to Siege, but I also like it when they break away from it. I love the Bayformer designs because it’s own identity. I love the War/Fall of Cybertron designs cuz it was its own identity.
ScottyP wrote:One of the primary aspects of Transformers that drew me to become as involved with it as I am was the constant cycle of change. Sometimes things were good, sometimes they were bad, but they were always different. Even with the Unicron Trilogy, Animated, Movies, and Aligned, things felt different even with Optimus, Megatron, Bee, and others around.
I find it weird that all this product that's supposed to be for a long time fan like me is making me disillusioned with the direction of the next year's worth of products. I'm probably most excited for stuff like the Botbots and Studio Series Dropkick, and outside of the Micromasters and Brunt, Siege looks boring to me. I'm not even sure I actually like the Micromasters, I might just like that there haven't been 56 versions of Roadhandler in the past five years.
I think the increasingly homogeneous nature of the product lineup is a recipe for failure, but money talks so maybe it's me with the wrong idea.
Full disclosure: I'm gonna buy all this stuff anyway because even if it's fleeting, new toys still take me away from the oppressive reality of life as a working adult.
I'm just bored.
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