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News Credits: 1014 · by **First Gen** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:58 am

Another blog update has been posted over at Shoot For The Edit by Site Administrator Nelson. Looks like they need help and they're asking you for it:

We are looking for the best Pre-viz animators to help build the team for Transformers 3. Maya expertise is a must.

Please email your resume in Word or PDF format along with the URL of your reel to the web master.

So Seibertronians, are any of you graphics specialists? This could be a big opportunity to get on team Transformers 3!

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News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:06 am

Shit-balls! I learn about this next year in school! :MAD:

News Credits: 8 · by **Forgotten** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:09 am

I can do a bit, but i'm mostly IT. Wonder if they need some specialized rendering systems built. Maybe a few quad tesla systems. I can help with that. I can guarantee they wouldn't blow up when rendering underwater robots. :grin:

News Credits: 1 · by **Lord Onixprime** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:26 am

well, if they were looking for some one with GOOD ideas for the Transformers then I could be of some help. But this I don't have any skills in. :lol:

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:38 am

Every single person who has posted have those f*kn smiley faces after the post! :evil:

by **Heckfire** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:48 am

SlyTF1 wrote:Every single person who has posted have those f*kn smiley faces after the post!

Dude, it's a job opportunity AND a chance to work on TF3. If THAT isn't cause for smiley emoticons, what the Hell IS? :grin:

News Credits: 21 · by **dragons** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:53 am

Every single person who has posted have those f*kn smiley faces after the post!
Dude, it's a job opportunity AND a chance to work on TF3. If THAT isn't cause for smiley emoticons, what the Hell IS?

im not trying to mak efun of anyone but maybe he doesnt knwo how to use to the program i dont know how to use could be why hes mad? :???:

thats what i got from his staement

by **ACIDSTORM** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:51 am

dragons wrote:
Every single person who has posted have those f*kn smiley faces after the post!
Dude, it's a job opportunity AND a chance to work on TF3. If THAT isn't cause for smiley emoticons, what the Hell IS?

im not trying to mak efun of anyone but maybe he doesnt knwo how to use to the program i dont know how to use could be why hes mad?

thats what i got from his staement

grammar and spellling man ,thats all i'm gonna say ,grammar and spelling...

It's a forum not a chatroom.

by **JayDee** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:30 pm

Oh, boy! I just sent them my resume... here goes nothing!
It's pre-viz, so those selected guys will get to know a lot of the story. That part of pre-production consists on using animated polygonal proxies for videos that help plan camera angles, movements, flows, lenses, etc., instead of using hand-drawn storyboards.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:58 pm

Even if i knew how to do that i wouldnt bother. Id be fired on the first day. Theres no way i could hold back my hate for these movies.

News Credits: 8 · by **Forgotten** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:45 pm

JayDee wrote:Oh, boy! I just sent them my resume... here goes nothing!
It's pre-viz, so those selected guys will get to know a lot of the story. That part of pre-production consists on using animated polygonal proxies for videos that help plan camera angles, movements, flows, lenses, etc., instead of using hand-drawn storyboards.

Hope you get a spot dude, and if you do, be sure to give us an inside scoop.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:33 pm

This is quite concerning, why does Dreamworks need Maya animators? Its not like there is a shortage of professionals wanting to work for them.

Who's Bay pissed off this time?

News Credits: 8 · by **Forgotten** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:16 pm

Psychout wrote:This is quite concerning, why does Dreamworks need Maya animators? Its not like there is a shortage of professionals wanting to work for them.

Who's Bay pissed off this time?

everybody.

News Credits: 1 · by **YRQRM0** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:17 pm

Forgotten wrote:
JayDee wrote:Oh, boy! I just sent them my resume... here goes nothing!
It's pre-viz, so those selected guys will get to know a lot of the story. That part of pre-production consists on using animated polygonal proxies for videos that help plan camera angles, movements, flows, lenses, etc., instead of using hand-drawn storyboards.

Hope you get a spot dude, and if you do, be sure to give us an inside scoop.

Yes, good luck. Just don't get fired lol

Man, if only they delayed the movie another 10 years or so, when I'm a pro animator. :-(

Any chance they'd except Pre-viz Stop-Motion? :lol:

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:40 pm

Psychout wrote:This is quite concerning, why does Dreamworks need Maya animators? Its not like there is a shortage of professionals wanting to work for them.

Who's Bay pissed off this time?

One other thing: maybe the movie FX are going to be so big, they need extra help to get it done in time.

Forgotten wrote:
JayDee wrote:Oh, boy! I just sent them my resume... here goes nothing!
It's pre-viz, so those selected guys will get to know a lot of the story. That part of pre-production consists on using animated polygonal proxies for videos that help plan camera angles, movements, flows, lenses, etc., instead of using hand-drawn storyboards.

Hope you get a spot dude, and if you do, be sure to give us an inside scoop.

Ummm...I can draw stick figures. Does that count? Maybe they need an on-set RN with emergency medical experience that's also a massage therapist...(how's THAT for diversity?) :???:

by **snavej** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:05 am

In ten or twenty years time, the studio will be wanting people to update the TF movies, as happened with the Star Wars movies. They will need people to untangle the messes or, alternatively, to insert even more in-your-face stuff to satisfy future audience desires for OTT films. :sad:

News Credits: 5 · by **Rodimus2006** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:46 am

Maya does this mean that TF 3 could be based or have something to do with Mayan religion and maybe a 2012 refrence since TF 3 is going to be release almost near 2012 maybe Mr. Bay wants to add in something from the Mayan Religion.

News Credits: 8 · by **Forgotten** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:28 am

Rodimus2006 wrote:Maya does this mean that TF 3 could be based or have something to do with Mayan religion and maybe a 2012 refrence since TF 3 is going to be release almost near 2012 maybe Mr. Bay wants to add in something from the Mayan Religion.

Umm Maya is a form of visual scripting. Maya = graphics like Java = script

by **JayDee** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:34 am

Actually, they are referring to Autodesk's Maya (formerly Alias/Wavefront Maya.)
It's not a graphics language, it's a 3D graphics software. Most studios use it as its main 3D software because of its customization capabilities, which allow it to be integrated within many workflows. This means that a studio might use Renderman and MentalRay coupled with Maxwell Render or VRay for its rendering workflows (or parts of each -like ambient occlusion, specularity, diffuse, etc.- to be integrated later in post) and use Maya's shading networks to leave the 3D models UVs and textures ready to be rendered by said rendering workflow. The same happens with rigging/animation, lighting, dynamics simulation, VFX, etc. And its out-of-the-box tools for all of this (modeling, texturing, rigging, animation, dynamics simulation, rendering, etc.) are powerful enough that it lets you use it for your entire production workflow. The 2010 version includes dedicated software for match moving workflows and node based compositing projects (MatchMover and Toxik.) As for scripting, Maya uses Python and MEL (Maya Embedded Language.)
In short... it's extremely flexible and powerful.

News Credits: 5 · by **Rodimus2006** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:27 am

Sorry My Bad, I think they are using this to make more new bots for the teams maybe more than Revenge Ever had in it plus they could use this and the guys behind Devestator to bring in Unicron.

Also I think it is now time for Galvatron, I mean come on people arent you tired of seeing the mode badd-ass villian getting kicked around so much and even bye humans.

I mean they dont have to bring in Galvatron right away in the movie but at a certain point into the movie and make it tie in with the movie. He would still basically be the same as before just more upgraded and more powerful with some new more advanced weapons.

Also I would like for in TF 3 for the movie to be opened up with Megatron narrating it instead of OP, it would make more since in TF 3 to be opened up that way and have the movie to be opened up with the Decipticons on 1st then the Autobots on later on.

Be something like this, We have suffered a major defeat at the hands of the Humans Hive and those rithced Autobots, But this has also put me into position to become the Ultimate Leader for the Decipticons. We have been slowly watching are foes and building up our new Army and now the time has come to have one last battle. But Ive been feeling some enormus dark force from beyond space calling me but I dont know who or what this dark entity could be.

Transformers 3 - The War Within

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:59 am

Psychout wrote:This is quite concerning, why does Dreamworks need Maya animators? Its not like there is a shortage of professionals wanting to work for them.

Who's Bay pissed off this time?

ILM.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:53 am

Rodimus2006 wrote:Stuff

Dude, you really need to learn that not all topics exist for you to ramble off topic.

by **Joshua Vallse** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:01 am

Wow, feels like forever since I've been here, damn computer virus. Anyways....

Psychout wrote:This is quite concerning, why does Dreamworks need Maya animators? Its not like there is a shortage of professionals wanting to work for them.

Who's Bay pissed off this time?

Interesting. the thing that scares me is how bad 3D artist in general are treated most of the time with high profile clients. I work with a guy whose been with ILM and he's told me, they're treated pretty bad. That being stated.....

I think Bay might be looking for more interpretive ways to set up the storyboard shots and maybe cut time on camera setups during production, so ILM or Dreamworks may not be at all involved with this. A Pre-Viz is sort of like an animatic of your story. Anyone whose watched the production diaries to Peter Jacksons' "KONG" and how they set up the shots with the "Venture" know what animatics are. However, that being the case, those involved may be treated to the brown carpet treatment of over blown expectancy with minimal pay or gratitude or even recognition. Most of the artist which have worked on the past two Transformer films have yet to be recognized, with more artist popping out of the wood work and guys like Ben Proctor trying to pull everything together to release a movie concept book for years so everyone can get some recognition. If that kind of treatment is visited upon their conceptual team, I can only imagine the editorial staff or the pre-viz department.

I'm not trying to diss-hearten anyone, just telling you what I've been told and have experienced. Many many many cases, most of your work will never be seen, or acknowledged. I hope it is, I really do. But I do also want to prepare anyone who may be going into this with dreams of glitz and glamour. It's a vicious machine this franchise is. Just.....steel yourself is all I'm saying.

Best of luck to all of you. Kind of sounds hollow after what I just typed, but I do mean it. Anyone who puts forth that kind of work (Especially with Bay) deserves to be credited. I hope you are.
Josh