The Energon Pub

News Credits: 62 · by **Primeultimus** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:29 am

New pictures of BBTS Exclusive Dark Energon Knockout In Package

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:33 am

Anybody who Knock Out is supposed to homage here? I know Bumblebee is Goldbug, Wheeljack is Slicer and Starscream is Skywarp.

News Credits: 9 · by **triKlops** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:38 am

don't know who this is supposed to represent either but damn he looks cool
that deco just POPS!

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:47 am

Seibertron member Primeultimus has posted a photo of Big Bad Toy Store's exclusive Dark Energon Knock Out, in package from BigBadToyStore's facebook page.

We've seen the Powerizers/Voyagers before, but this is the first packaged picture of the Revealers/Deluxe Class.

Dark Energon figures are available for preorder at BBTS right now.

Love it? Hate it? Tell us what you think.

Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news and updates!

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:50 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anybody who Knock Out is supposed to homage here? I know Bumblebee is Goldbug, Wheeljack is Slicer and Starscream is Skywarp.

I believe it's Toxitron. Green, purple, skull & crossbones. I'm sold on the homage being that.

by **Autobot-Hellstriker** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:27 pm

It could be a homage to Wasp from transformers animated.

by **Godzillabot Primal** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:06 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anybody who Knock Out is supposed to homage here? I know Bumblebee is Goldbug, Wheeljack is Slicer and Starscream is Skywarp.

I believe it's Toxitron. Green, purple, skull & crossbones. I'm sold on the homage being that.

I agree on the Toxitron homage. But I'll be using him as TFP Wreckloose.

News Credits: 5 · by **dedcat** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:10 pm

He looks like an electric booger.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:22 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anybody who Knock Out is supposed to homage here? I know Bumblebee is Goldbug, Wheeljack is Slicer and Starscream is Skywarp.

I believe it's Toxitron. Green, purple, skull & crossbones. I'm sold on the homage being that.

I thought Toxitron was more of a pea soup green/yellow with purple. And the

and crossbones is the Dark Energon Decepticon faction symbol, as advertised. Likewise, the Autobots are now Autobot Dark Energon Defenders with their own symbol. :-B

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:06 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anybody who Knock Out is supposed to homage here? I know Bumblebee is Goldbug, Wheeljack is Slicer and Starscream is Skywarp.

I believe it's Toxitron. Green, purple, skull & crossbones. I'm sold on the homage being that.

I thought Toxitron was more of a pea soup green/yellow with purple. And the and crossbones is the Dark Energon Decepticon faction symbol, as advertised. Likewise, the Autobots are now Autobot Dark Energon Defenders with their own symbol.

Yeah, but how do you get that putrid green coloring with translucent packaging? Either way, I think thing's ugly. It hit every branch on it's way down the ugly tree. Yeesh.

I love the mold, no seriously, I do. I still wouldn't buy this one.

by **XDMan** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:27 pm

TF: Prime Waspinator, is that you? Just kidding!

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:40 pm

I think you guys are skirting the obvious. This guy is bright green and purple. I'm gonna venture a guess and say his intended homage is to the constructicons.

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:50 pm

Toxitron, Constructicons, Wasp(inator), they're all odd choices for Knock Out to homage. You'd think it would be based on Ratchet or some other medic-bot.

News Credits: 3 · by **Depthcharge27** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:54 pm

I love these colors!!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:03 pm

Noideaforaname wrote:Toxitron, Constructicons, Wasp(inator), they're all odd choices for Knock Out to homage. You'd think it would be based on Ratchet or some other medic-bot.

It's kinda a touch call since Knock Out has no G1 Counterpart, aside from the unrelated Micromaster:

It couldn't be his repaint Gusher, could it?

News Credits: 36 · by **Pretender Skywarp** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:46 am

Ii think the issue is that as someone already mentioned, he has no obvious prior "counterpart".

That aside, love it; especially the packaging...

by **Gearslide** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:09 am

So, did anyone notice that the art on the packaging has been modified (asides from the coloration) from the original deluxe's art? Instead of showing him with the saw that he doesn't come with, they actually made him hold the prod that he DOES come with!

News Credits: 5 · by **emeraldbeacon** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:23 pm

Personally, I treat it as Knockout experimenting with the combined effects of Dark Energon (purple) and SynthEn (green)...

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:26 pm

I don't need a contrived fiction to explain it. It's a cool toy in cool colors.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:32 pm

Since I'm a sucker for translucent decos and G1 homages... :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:29 pm

Pretender Skywarp wrote:Ii think the issue is that as someone already mentioned, he has no obvious prior "counterpart".

Well, Knock Out has prior counterparts; just not in G1. Unless you do count Micromaster Knockout (as I like to).

He had an Armada show appearance and a toy.

Then as a repainted Rollout.

ROTF Knock Out got the comic treatment complete with a toy.

And once more in Speed Stars before Transformers Prime

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:12 am

PrymeStriker wrote:
Pretender Skywarp wrote:Ii think the issue is that as someone already mentioned, he has no obvious prior "counterpart".

Well, Knock Out has prior counterparts; just not in G1. Unless you do count Micromaster Knockout (as I like to).

Which you shouldn't. None them are a red sportscar or a medic, and what's in a name? Would you consider Armada Smokescreen to be a new version of G1 Smokescreen?

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:27 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Pretender Skywarp wrote:Ii think the issue is that as someone already mentioned, he has no obvious prior "counterpart".

Well, Knock Out has prior counterparts; just not in G1. Unless you do count Micromaster Knockout (as I like to).

Which you shouldn't. None them are a red sportscar or a medic, and what's in a name? Would you consider Armada Smokescreen to be a new version of G1 Smokescreen?

Yes, I would. I don't understand, if they don't look the same in every one of their incarnations, they're not worthy of being an earlier incardination?

No, they are not the same character. They're obviously from different continuities. They still have the names of "Knock Out" and "Smokescreen" applied to them.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:54 am

PrymeStriker wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Pretender Skywarp wrote:Ii think the issue is that as someone already mentioned, he has no obvious prior "counterpart".

Well, Knock Out has prior counterparts; just not in G1. Unless you do count Micromaster Knockout (as I like to).

Which you shouldn't. None them are a red sportscar or a medic, and what's in a name? Would you consider Armada Smokescreen to be a new version of G1 Smokescreen?

Yes, I would. I don't understand, if they don't look the same in every one of their incarnations, they're not worthy of being an earlier incardination?

The word is "incarnation", and no. To me, a name is more than just a monicker, it's part of the character and the traits it should possess. Smokescreen, at least to me. has to be a red and blue race car to qualify, Ratchet has to be an ambulance or medic, Starscream has to be a jet and a schemer, etc.

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:07 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
Pretender Skywarp wrote:Ii think the issue is that as someone already mentioned, he has no obvious prior "counterpart".

Well, Knock Out has prior counterparts; just not in G1. Unless you do count Micromaster Knockout (as I like to).

Which you shouldn't. None them are a red sportscar or a medic, and what's in a name? Would you consider Armada Smokescreen to be a new version of G1 Smokescreen?

Yes, I would. I don't understand, if they don't look the same in every one of their incarnations, they're not worthy of being an earlier incardination?

The word is "incarnation", and no.

Why didn't my spell check pick that up like it did the first time? :BANG_HEAD:

To me, a name is more than just a monicker,

Moniker.

it's part of the character and the traits it should possess. Smokescreen, at least to me. has to be a red and blue race car to qualify, Ratchet has to be an ambulance or medic, Starscream has to be a jet and a schemer, etc.

Yes, but Knock Out's traits in Transformers Prime are completely new. This is not the first time Knock Out has been in a cartoon or Transformers fiction. Regardless to which characteristic of Knock Out a fan favors, there have been previous incarnations of Knock Out, and that won't change.