The Energon Pub

[El Duque]

Thanks to Japanese toy blogger Alfes 2010 we have some in-hand images of some of the latest offering from Takara Tomy. First up, Transformers Prime Arms Micron AM-27 Ultra Magnus and AM-28 Leo Prime. Next we have their take on the Transformers Prime RC Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. Lastly a large gallery of Transformers Masterpiece MP-14 Red Alert. Check them out in the images mirrored below:

[RhA]

Thoze RC toys are hilarious.

You know what I'm talking about, don't pretend you don't see it.

[Sabrblade]

Leo Prime is BWII Lio Convoy having dimension-hopped.

No joke.

[Doubledealer93]

i could buy that leo prime and not feel bad about it at all. plus his micron is Moon.

[MasterSoundBlaster]

Wow...That Magnus looks so much much better than the Hasbro version. If only he came with Hasbro's Hammer and not the micron...

[Samsonator]

Y'know I thought I saw マキシマル (Makishimaru, Maximal) on Leo Prime's packaging, nice to see he comes with the logos! It's both awesome and a shame that Leo Prime works out to be better than the character the mold was intended for, but them's the breaks sometimes... anyone else getting a slight Vector Prime vibe from him? Like he's some robo-lovechild of Lio Convoy and Vector Prime?... Either way I dig the beardy bastard, and can't wait to get him.

[KNM2012]

Honestly, I am with RhA on this. The RC toys look pretty hilarious in their own way. However, I see that Alert has some slight QC issues. No good. But it was expected. So I think I am good with Encore when it comes to the pre-Alternity Generation 1 stuff.

And with Leo Prime, I wonder what TOMY's take on PRIME will be like. Will they pull a Beast Wars and start some spin-off material? Are they going to just make their variations and do nothing beyond that? Not sure, but I am set on what I want.

Leo Prime is BWII Lio Convoy having dimension-hopped.

No joke.

More like TOMY's take on Hasbro's Leo Prime. From what I am being told, TOMY's version of PRIME will be more like Takara's take on Beast Wars. As in it only branches off from their version of PRIME, and nothing else. So we may see him have more of a "Universe" Leo Prime element, especially since they are focusing more on Hasbro's version.

Not disputing that, nor do I care. Just give me any variation of "Arms Micron" Arcee and I am fine.

[Sabrblade]

Leo Prime's official bio in English, translated by the very man who wrote it:

Leo Prime
Function: Maximal High Commander

Suddenly appearing on present-day Earth after sensing the threat of Unicron, Leo Prime is a Transformer elder who has crossed over from a distant dimension. On his former world, he was a revered high commander known as Great Lio Convoy. In order to avoid a space-time disturbance, he refrains from interfering in the battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron. However, should Unicron awaken once again, he has vowed to use his ancient sword, drawing power from his Energon Matrix, to put a stop to the evil force.

Super Combo Weapon:
Leonid Tonfa

[MasterSoundBlaster]

Leo Prime's official bio in English, translated by the very man who wrote it:

Leo Prime
Function: Maximal High Commander

Suddenly appearing on present-day Earth after sensing the threat of Unicron, Leo Prime is a Transformer elder who has crossed over from a distant dimension. On his former world, he was a revered high commander known as Great Lio Convoy. In order to avoid a space-time disturbance, he refrains from interfering in the battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron. However, should Unicron awaken once again, he has vowed to use his ancient sword, drawing power from his Energon Matrix, to put a stop to the evil force.

Super Combo Weapon:
Leonid Tonfa

Sweet! Leo is (Technically) hiding off on Earth somewhere!

Although I truly wished he didn't share the same head sculpt as Thundertron. I wanted something more..."Prime-ish" Also not quite a fan of the constant color-breaking on him. I'm gonna try and work up some fan art on how I think he should of looked.

[KNM2012]

Leo Prime's official bio in English, translated by the very man who wrote it:

Leo Prime
Function: Maximal High Commander

Suddenly appearing on present-day Earth after sensing the threat of Unicron, Leo Prime is a Transformer elder who has crossed over from a distant dimension. On his former world, he was a revered high commander known as Great Lio Convoy. In order to avoid a space-time disturbance, he refrains from interfering in the battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron. However, should Unicron awaken once again, he has vowed to use his ancient sword, drawing power from his Energon Matrix, to put a stop to the evil force.

Super Combo Weapon:
Leonid Tonfa

How shall I say this? I said that I do not care. The main reason why I stopped caring is because you did it to me. And seeing how you do not care, I am just going to respect your collector side and leave the continuity and fact checking to those who care to respect my views.

Besides, I said: "More like TOMY's take on Hasbro's Leo Prime. ... So we may see him have more of a "Universe" Leo Prime element, especially since they are focusing more on Hasbro's version." As in...

1) The variation of the character fits Hasbro's "Universe" Leo Prime, which was a Target exclusive.

2) The Universe continuity stated that Unicron was an issue and key characters did the very same thing in hopes of stopping him.

Ergo, what you just said validates what my friend told me. The difference is that you ignored the fact that I did not even care when she said it. So therefor, if you want me to care about the character and figure, then convince me to like him. Beyond that, I will only talk facts to those who respect my views.

Oh, and Arcee is the only character I will collect at this time.

[LordBludgeon]

Rather than doing a Leo Prime, Thundertron redeco, I would have found it much more fitting if they redecoed him into Alpha Trion instead. Given the beard and overall look of Thundertron and since Alpha Trion at one point was going to be a lion... or was: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Alphalion.jpg

I think that would have been a much more awesome redeco myself. Would also be nice to have another Alpha Trion figure regardless. Considering the only one out there is the Shattered Glass Botcon Figure. Would love to see someone attempt to redeco him as A3.

[KNM2012]

Rather than doing a Leo Prime, Thundertron redeco, I would have found it much more fitting if they redecoed him into Alpha Trion instead. Given the beard and overall look of Thundertron and since Alpha Trion at one point was going to be a lion... or was: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Alphalion.jpg

I think that would have been a much more awesome redeco myself. Would also be nice to have another Alpha Trion figure regardless. Considering the only one out there is the Shattered Glass Botcon Figure. Would love to see someone attempt to redeco him as A3.

I agree and disagree. From the way it appears, TOMY is trying to add some of Hasbro's Universe continuity into their version of PRIME. And this could also allow them to add more mystery to who Alpha Trion is. Because there is always that chance he was involved, especially since TOMY has a huge gap between Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo to fill (for Lio Convoy).

But on the other hand, I agree because they need to give us their version of Alpha Trion. And from the way the two look, they could have easily done that with this figure.

[xyl360]

nuff said

THANK YOU TAKARAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PrymeStriker]

How shall I say this? I said that I do not care. The main reason why I stopped caring is because you did it to me. And seeing how you do not care, I am just going to respect your collector side and leave the continuity and fact checking to those who care to respect my views.

I didn't spot a point in time where Sabrblade disrespected your views. He just put up a disputation.

1) The variation of the character fits Hasbro's "Universe" Leo Prime, which was a Target exclusive.

So, that just put him in the G1 continuity family...where he already was to begin with.

2) The Universe continuity

Generation 1 continuity family*

stated that Unicron was an issue and key characters did the very same thing in hopes of stopping him.

So therefor, if you want me to care about the character and figure, then convince me to like him.

You don't have to like him.

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And now for my two cents:

Ultra Magnus looks worse than before. Thanks, Takara.

Leo Prime looks awesome! insignia!!!!

[mooncake623]

Looks like paint issues on red alert too?

[PrymeStriker]

Rather than doing a Leo Prime, Thundertron redeco, I would have found it much more fitting if they redecoed him into Alpha Trion instead. Given the beard and overall look of Thundertron and since Alpha Trion at one point was going to be a lion... or was

Oh, I really want a Prime Alpha Trion repainted from Thundertron now. Not so much for show accuracy, but just because that color scheme with that design looks damn cool.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I should add that the blog post is entitled "Mini-Preview", meaning more detailed galleries of the specific figures are well underway

[Stumpybot]

argh! tying continuities together in you head, getting butthurt because you got debunked and repeated statements about what toy companies logic should be... just another day in paradise.

I love how somebody can turn an enjoyable homage THAT WILL NEVER BE IN THE SHOW into a point of argument. Great you believe whatever the hell you want, dont burden everybody by trying to smugly belittle everybody elses opinion. its embarrassing.

I like it, and quite honestly id rather have had an Alpha Trion, but at the end of the day, Leo Prime is a character with appeal to the non-hardcore collectors since he's a Prime (in whatever capacity), and he does LOOK profoundly different. Looking forward to seeing what AM Thundertron comes out like when he gets released.

Magnus im not impressed with, glad i got the Hasbro one. colours are too flat. Expect reprolabels are already working on a set for the Hasbro version.

MP Red Alert, glad i ordered him, cant wait for it to arrive.

Peace out

[PrymeStriker]

argh! tying continuities together in you head, getting butthurt because you got debunked and repeated statements about what toy companies logic should be... just another day on the Seibertron Energon Pub forums.

Fixed.

[Sabrblade]

How shall I say this? I said that I do not care.

What? My post wasn't for you, it was for Samsonator. I didn't see your post until after I made mine.

I should add that the blog post is entitled "Mini-Preview", meaning more detailed galleries of the specific figures are well underway

Can't wait.

[KNM2012]

I didn't spot a point in time where Sabrblade disrespected your views. He just put up a disputation.

I'm just saying this. It is more of a dismissal, not a dispute. The same dismissal that had him go off-topic on any topic just to prove I was wrong, even though his claims cannot be validated. The same dismissal that had him not care that others, such as myself, come here to have fun only to be ridiculed anytime he wants to have what he says shine.

Want examples?

e-HOBBY's VSE set: Nobody I personally know follows Twitter. And I only follow the official sites and Facebook pages. All he had to do was say "look at the Twitter page" and I would have. Instead, he dismissed the fact I do not follow Twitter and made me feel like a fool in the process.

UNITED-EX: The first time, he wasted up to 4 hours of my birthday by saying "I don't get it." and "I'm confused." when I tried explaining something to him. The second time, he dismissed my computer issue (which I have mentioned) by ridiculing the fact I used Google's instant translator. He also dismissed the fact that I learned the concept of continuity from professional writers and screenwriters, as well as anime companies, and made me sound like an idiot for not agreeing with him.

Galvatron: Just to be right, and in a subject that was not about the character, he chose to dismiss two factors: One being the entire movie and the other being that his conclusion does not reflect the Japanese version of the series. So when I was citing events and facts from the movie, he dismissed it while citing stuff how a photo and the two English voice actors make him right.

Pryme, out of respect and the fact you did not realize that our introduction was based on me misreading something you said (and did openly apologize for it), I will say this - He does not dispute. He dismisses. Disputing requires some acknowledgement that the person has a different view. Dismissing has him just completely disregard what he needs to know just to obtain a goal.

And not liking? I defended him when another made this an issue when it comes to him! All we asked is that he eases up and just interact with the rest of us like he does with you. But instead, even when I agreed with him, it feels like he needs to defend his status. And that is how he came off - Especially after everything I have been put through with him.

So yes: I think what he said was correct. I think PRIME is the new Beast Wars. I think that they are adding elements from Hasbro's past works with everything that is post-Alternity. I just wish he would have acknowledged that, is all. And now, officially, I wonder if my 2013 will have me existing here if I have to defend myself when he is involved (first-hand or not)... Which is sad because I like the "fun convo" version of him.

[KNM2012]

How shall I say this? I said that I do not care.

What? My post wasn't for you, it was for Samsonator. I didn't see your post until after I made mine.

Apologies to you, then. Because you responded to my post. And it comes off as if I came off as disputing what you said, and so on. So permission to laugh it off?

(Oh, and to the guy who claimed I was "butt hurt"... I am obsessed with fact checking, not pointless analogies that disregard the situation and members as being human.)

[Manterax Prime]

I fail to see ho this Magnus is "better" than the Hasbro one. I for one thinks its worse. Sure, the darker grey plastoc is good, but that's no excuse for that excessively bright blue (seriously, Hasbro's Magnus has a better fitting darker blue), that lousy cyberverse rip off of a micron and the lack of paint apps. Sure, there are stickers, but I hate stickers. They're a pain to apply and even if you do apply them properly, they'll eventually come off.

Hasbro has done better than Takara on this guy.

[PrymeStriker]

List of threads

I watched some of those from a distance.

Pryme, out of respect and the fact you did not realize that our introduction was based on me misreading something you said (and did openly apologize for it)

All is forgiven about that. I suppose I'll give my fair share of apologies for it as well.

And now, officially, I wonder if my 2013 will have me existing here if I have to defend myself when he is involved (first-hand or not)... Which is sad because I like the "fun convo" version of him.

Don't leave. You're awesome!

Also, you've become one of us. Once you've joined Seibertron, you become a nut forever. We're all nuts here at Seibertron.

I'm just saying this. It is more of a dismissal, not a dispute. The same dismissal that had him go off-topic on any topic just to prove I was wrong, even though his claims cannot be validated. The same dismissal that had him not care that others, such as myself, come here to have fun only to be ridiculed anytime he wants to have what he says shine.

Well, we now learned that he was talking to someone else. All is sunny once more.

[Sabrblade]

How shall I say this? I said that I do not care.

What? My post wasn't for you, it was for Samsonator. I didn't see your post until after I made mine.

Apologies to you, then. Because you responded to my post. And it comes off as if I came off as disputing what you said, and so on. So permission to laugh it off?

(Oh, and to the guy who claimed I was "butt hurt"... I am obsessed with fact checking, not pointless analogies that disregard the situation and members as being human.)

Right there with ya, bud. I chalk my case up to being one of the perks that comes with having Aspergers.