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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:01 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:I like the look of Skullcruncher...
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.

You sound like you've never seen the Titans Return toy before.

And the G1 toy could hold the tail as a weapon too.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:20 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I like the look of Skullcruncher...
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.
You sound like you've never seen the titans return toy

What makes him sound that way?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:23 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I like the look of Skullcruncher...
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.
You sound like you've never seen the titans return toy

What makes him sound that way?

The bold parts. He's surprised by the tail's ability to be held by the toy in its robot mode and how nice it looks, as though he's never seen that before.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:01 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:So I haven't been on this thread for a few pages, because the only figure in both waves so far that maybe interests me is Mindwipe, and even then, I'm not going to go out of my way to look for him.

BUT.

This image has been floating around since sometime yesterday:

And I am VERY curious to see what people here think about it.

Looks like this next slide from the same source confirms that it's bogus:

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:24 am

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I like the look of Skullcruncher...
At least the bot made. The alt mode is fine, but isn’t anything impressive imo.
What I surprisingly like is the look of the tail attached to the forearm as a weapon.
I haven’t liked to look of the battlemaster or parts-forming shields for Siege/ER/Netflix.
But for me this really works & looks much more intentional than other similar gimmicks.
He’d probably need to be on sale for me to buy, but this guy definitely has my interest.
You sound like you've never seen the titans return toy

What makes him sound that way?
The bold parts. He's surprised by the tail's ability to be held by the toy in its robot mode and how nice it looks, as though he's never seen that before.

It's not how I read it. It could just as easily be an observation they had on the toy and still like at the moment. Like how I speak of older toys in present tense when writing my top 5 lists. Just to say, we shouldn't be so quick to be dismissive of people's comments. Their comment added to the discussion, giving their opinion of a toy, while yours did not.

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:So I haven't been on this thread for a few pages, because the only figure in both waves so far that maybe interests me is Mindwipe, and even then, I'm not going to go out of my way to look for him.

BUT.

This image has been floating around since sometime yesterday:

And I am VERY curious to see what people here think about it.
Looks like this next slide from the same source confirms that it's bogus:

As someone who'd love a titan master-compatible Animated Headmaster, I felt that "sorry" for wave 6.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:59 pm

I had definitely seen the TR version of Skullcruncher...
He was one of many that I passed on. In fact, I didn't buy anything from that line except the Terrorcons.
But seeing him again recently I noticed more how the tail as a weapon works well in terms of the look. Better than I remember, even though before I never looked very closely.
The G1 version looks exactly how I don't want those types of gimmicks to look.

Reminds me of how much I appreciate that the Dinobots had sword weapons rather than a gimmick where their chunky, stubby tails were removed and used as "swords".

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:04 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:I had definitely seen the TR version of Skullcruncher...
He was one of many that I passed on. In fact, I didn't buy anything from that line except the Terrorcons.
But seeing him again recently I noticed more how the tail as a weapon works well in terms of the look. Better than I remember, even though before I never looked very closely.
The G1 version looks exactly how I don't want those types of gimmicks to look.

Reminds me of how much I appreciate that the Dinobots had sword weapons rather than a gimmick where their chunky, stubby tails were removed and used as "swords".

I hear you on the "tails for weapons" bit. I pulled out Classics Grimlock the other day (He's keeping PCC Grimstone company) and really dislike that on him. O well.

My Walmarts are done with their resets, and one even had a Hardhead on the shelf. Later, Chromedome first. Though... dunno if I'm dodging bullets out with the Decepticon ones, or missing out. :-?

News Credits: 1 · by **Changewinds** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:46 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:I had definitely seen the TR version of Skullcruncher...
He was one of many that I passed on. In fact, I didn't buy anything from that line except the Terrorcons.
But seeing him again recently I noticed more how the tail as a weapon works well in terms of the look. Better than I remember, even though before I never looked very closely.
The G1 version looks exactly how I don't want those types of gimmicks to look.

Reminds me of how much I appreciate that the Dinobots had sword weapons rather than a gimmick where their chunky, stubby tails were removed and used as "swords".

I do wonder if they fixed the loose hips on this new version. I did like the look of the bot and alt mode, but the loose hips were a dealbreaker since Skullcruncher and his recolor Gatorface both couldn’t stand very well on their own.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:25 pm

Gatorface was the name of the redeco's head. The redeco was named Krok.
I found Krok to be at least passable on his own. Skullcruncher was loose AF and no mistake, but the old "clear polish on the ball part of the joint" trick fixed him right up.

The "tails for weapons" thing can work. Take a look at Weirdwolf and Cybertron Snarl, for example - now there's some successful use of tails as swords. And Cybertron Scourge gave us a lovely use of a tail as an axe.
Skullcruncher's tail works better if you think of it as a lance IMO. Or maybe a club. Trying to pass it as a sword... yeah no.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:33 pm

I also have both and can confirm Krok wasn't nearly as bad as Skullcruncher. Floor polish did the trick just fine for me too.

I'm curious to see if they did anything about the hinge on Wolfwire myself. I have all 7 from TR already, so he is the only one I might be interested if they fixed things.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:39 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Gatorface was the name of the redeco's head. The redeco was named Krok.
I found Krok to be at least passable on his own. Skullcruncher was loose AF and no mistake, but the old "clear polish on the ball part of the joint" trick fixed him right up.

The "tails for weapons" thing can work. Take a look at Weirdwolf and Cybertron Snarl, for example - now there's some successful use of tails as swords. And Cybertron Scourge gave us a lovely use of a tail as an axe.
Skullcruncher's tail works better if you think of it as a lance IMO. Or maybe a club. Trying to pass it as a sword... yeah no.

Best tail sword ever though goes to the Tigerzord from MMPR.
Cybertron Scourge is pretty awesome too though.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:17 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Gatorface was the name of the redeco's head. The redeco was named Krok.
I found Krok to be at least passable on his own. Skullcruncher was loose AF and no mistake, but the old "clear polish on the ball part of the joint" trick fixed him right up.

The "tails for weapons" thing can work. Take a look at Weirdwolf and Cybertron Snarl, for example - now there's some successful use of tails as swords. And Cybertron Scourge gave us a lovely use of a tail as an axe.
Skullcruncher's tail works better if you think of it as a lance IMO. Or maybe a club. Trying to pass it as a sword... yeah no.

Cybertron Snarl, that was some tail.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:37 pm

william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Gatorface was the name of the redeco's head. The redeco was named Krok.
I found Krok to be at least passable on his own. Skullcruncher was loose AF and no mistake, but the old "clear polish on the ball part of the joint" trick fixed him right up.

The "tails for weapons" thing can work. Take a look at Weirdwolf and Cybertron Snarl, for example - now there's some successful use of tails as swords. And Cybertron Scourge gave us a lovely use of a tail as an axe.
Skullcruncher's tail works better if you think of it as a lance IMO. Or maybe a club. Trying to pass it as a sword... yeah no.

Best tail sword ever though goes to the Tigerzord from MMPR.
Cybertron Scourge is pretty awesome too though.

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News Credits: 23 · by **aronjlove** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:36 pm

I still haven't seen these figures in store, but I noticed one of my Walmarts has a shelf tag for them.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:16 pm

aronjlove wrote:I still haven't seen these figures in store, but I noticed one of my Walmarts has a shelf tag for them.
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They should be due any day then. I don't know how far along anyone else's is, but my two local Walmarts have finished the reset of the toy aisles, that is when they should show up.

News Credits: 23 · by **aronjlove** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:21 pm

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
aronjlove wrote:I still haven't seen these figures in store, but I noticed one of my Walmarts has a shelf tag for them.
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They should be due any day then. I don't know how far along anyone else's is, but my two local Walmarts have finished the reset of the toy aisles, that is when they should show up.

Good to know because the Walmart I found this tag at had practically a ghost town for the toy section outside of Halo and Bakugan for some reason.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:26 pm

aronjlove wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
aronjlove wrote:I still haven't seen these figures in store, but I noticed one of my Walmarts has a shelf tag for them.
PHOTO_20210131_092859.jpg

They should be due any day then. I don't know how far along anyone else's is, but my two local Walmarts have finished the reset of the toy aisles, that is when they should show up.

Good to know because the Walmart I found this tag at had practically a ghost town for the toy section outside of Halo and Bakugan for some reason.

Mine was too, all part of the procedure: empty shelves and relocate stock, rearrange according to the plans posted, then restock. Don't expect everything at once though.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:19 pm

Yeah, I mean it's obviously based on opinion... I don't think any of those examples that were shared are bad... Those may be some of the best uses of tails for weapons. I'm just not a huge fan of the concept in general.
And I never said the newer Skullcruncher's tail was meant to be a sword... Agreed, that's not what was intended.
Again, I just think it visually works. I think mainly because it's proportioned well with his arm and the overall size of the figure itself.
Being that I don't have a single Headmaster figure, I will be very tempted to get him if I ever see him.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:42 pm

They showed up in my store today.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:22 pm

I've seen one Chromedome at one single store, and that's it. Also, for what it's worth, as much as I've been "clowning" on some casual fans who might mistake these for original re-releases (since they had been in Walmart as recently as with Blaster just a couple weeks ago), it actually happened with my son.

Although he has no personal attachment to the original toys, he was instantly excited when he saw the packaging, I apparently forgot to tell him these were coming out :lol:

. Should have seen his look when I told them they were just TR/Legends repackaged.

I mean it is nice if you missed out back in 2016, or are big fans of the Headmasters enough to get the slightly different decos. While the retro packaging is cool, it's just a wee bit disingenuous IMHO.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:28 pm

At minimum it needed new art that actually matches the toys.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:27 pm

o.supreme wrote:While the retro packaging is cool, it's just a wee bit disingenuous IMHO.

No more so than the Masters of the Universe Retro line, or the G.I.Joe stuff, or Mattel making retro WWE figures based on Hasbro's WWF line. Vintage packing on modern figures is a trend right now.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:At minimum it needed new art that actually matches the toys.

They certainly went minimum by changing the heads on all the vintage art.

Emerje

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:47 pm

Emerje wrote:No more so than the Masters of the Universe Retro line, or the G.I.Joe stuff, or Mattel making retro WWE figures based on Hasbro's WWF line. Vintage packing on modern figures is a trend right now.

There's no doubt it's trendy right now, but unlike the Retro style Headmaster Packaging, the new MOTU stuff goes out of the way to tell you it's "New for 20", and that it is based on the original with modern engineering. The TFs don't indicate any of that.

Besides, the MOTU are basically exactly that, the ARE the original toys, but with modern articulation. I don't even think Hasbro could pull it off, but if they did take the original 1987 headmaster molds, and "update them" with modern engineering, I'd be more inclined to agree, as opposed to just being the TR/Legends toys packaged in retro packaging.

What Hasbro is doing is more akin to if Mattel put the 2002 MOTU line in retro packaging, which they are obviously not.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:11 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Emerje wrote:No more so than the Masters of the Universe Retro line, or the G.I.Joe stuff, or Mattel making retro WWE figures based on Hasbro's WWF line. Vintage packing on modern figures is a trend right now.

There's no doubt it's trendy right now, but unlike the Retro style Headmaster Packaging, the new MOTU stuff goes out of the way to tell you it's "New for 20", and that it is based on the original with modern engineering. The TFs don't indicate any of that.

Besides, the MOTU are basically exactly that, the ARE the original toys, but with modern articulation. I don't even think Hasbro could pull it off, but if they did take the original 1987 headmaster molds, and "update them" with modern engineering, I'd be more inclined to agree, as opposed to just being the TR/Legends toys packaged in retro packaging.

What Hasbro is doing is more akin to if Mattel put the 2002 MOTU line in retro packaging, which they are obviously not.

I think if Hasbro was able to pull off adding knees, elbows, and hips to the original G1 figures that need it; they'd probably sell for $100 a pop.