BLUDGEON wrote:True, its even from the mouth of Tieger a natural successor as opposed to a sequel.
SirSoundwaveIV wrote:Wait.
Waitwaitwait.
Did someone just honestly say it didn't matter what Hasbro said about Transformers?
It's called word of god, it doesn't matter what it was intended to be, it matters what Hasbro says it is. Prime pretty much summed up Megatron poisoning the core and Optimus going down there to try and find a solution (no Ironhide/Warpath though), and I don't see Dark Energon floating around in any other continuity. These events were major parts of both the novel and this game, and ties both solidly together with Prime.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Judging from this video, they seem to have used G1 as their main inspiration, but as I said before, "being inspired by G1" =/= "being G1".BLUDGEON wrote:'We went back to G1.. that was the cornerstone of everything we did...'
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ron/18531/
Watch the video..
I did not know which interviews to look for as I don't have access to them.wigglez323 wrote:You can't look things up yourself?
"Based on G1" isn't the same thing as "Based in G1".wigglez323 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhM5mVAc ... re=related
RiD, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, the movies ,and Animated have all had their fair share of G1-inspired designs, yet I don't see people claiming them to be G1 series.wigglez323 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMVRSgroFRg
Not to mention the character designs.
It's not "proof" if it's they're that vague about it. If it's anything, it's "hints" instead of "proof", but even hints can be (and have been) proven false.wigglez323 wrote:We've found proof. And you still deny it. Whatever, that doesn't matter. What matters is this game is going to be better than WFC. I'm starting to say that it doesn't matter what cartoon the game belongs to. This is just what happens before they came to Earth.
It all comes from Exodus, whose 16th-38th chapters are adapted from WFC. Not to mention that the WFC comic is adapted from Exodus chapters 12-15, which contain events shown in that flashback from TF: Prime.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:In TF: Prime, they say that Megatron was a Gladiator and that Optimus admired him for his revolutionist thinking, and that Optimus was chosen to be Prime over Megatron. But none of that is mentioned in War For Cybertron. If they're trying to tie the continuities together, then they're leaving a few holes in the story. I understand that it can't be perfect, but I'm just nit-picky I guess.
Exactly what sort of lies have they told? I didn't follow many of the WFC interviews back when they were announced.Shadowman wrote:Problem is, there's holes no matter what you believe in. Hasbro says it's based on TF:P, High Moon later claimed otherwise, but then High Moon tends to lie to us.
"Being G1-inspired" =/= "being G1". The movies were G1-inspired, but are not G1. Only big difference with those is that the movies later took some artistic liberites in their designs, whereas WFC did not so much.BLUDGEON wrote:Sorry fella, it doesn't matter what Hasbro said, it was originally designed around G1 at its core. This is what the designers had in mind. Prove to me that it wasnt...
Yeah, Hasbro has the final say regardless of anything. It's their intellectual property and what they say goes.SirSoundwaveIV wrote:Wait.
Waitwaitwait.
Did someone just honestly say it didn't matter what Hasbro said about Transformers?
It's called word of god, it doesn't matter what it was intended to be, it matters what Hasbro says it is. Prime pretty much summed up Megatron poisoning the core and Optimus going down there to try and find a solution (no Ironhide/Warpath though), and I don't see Dark Energon floating around in any other continuity. These events were major parts of both the novel and this game, and ties both solidly together with Prime.
Why not just see them as multiple canons leading up to the same future? It worked for the G1 cartoon and G1 Marvel Comics both separately leading up to Beast Wars, so why not have WFC and Exodus both separately lead up to TF: Prime?SirSoundwaveIV wrote:yeah there is, but it's not like continuity errors are something new to transformers I generally consider the first half of exodus sans sentinel being kidnapped to be pretty much canon, then some later battles in exodus (like vs. bruticus) that don't contradict WFC, then WFC/FoC (and from the sounds of things, you could potentially place the exodus in exodus and then exiles after FoC)
What's he lied about?Shadowman wrote:Did you follow the news on WfC before and after its release? If you did, you'd learn one valuable lesson: Tieger lies.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Yeah, but that was still pseudocanon until some Hasbro-licensed TF media made it official. I'm not saying "psuedocanon" is unofficial, but it's at best "apocryphal".SirSoundwaveIV wrote:Also, don't forget on the word of god thing that wyatt retconned the red autobot in animated as cliffjumper, and there's plenty of other examples of this as well.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What's he lied about?Shadowman wrote:Did you follow the news on WfC before and after its release? If you did, you'd learn one valuable lesson: Tieger lies.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What's he lied about?Shadowman wrote:Did you follow the news on WfC before and after its release? If you did, you'd learn one valuable lesson: Tieger lies.
Lots of things. We were told we'd get an explanation on why Megatron keeps Starscream around. We didn't get that. We were told we'd have character customization, when all we got was the ability to apply a severely limited number of colors to recycled models. We were told that we'd visit a bunch of places on Cybertron mentioned in other fiction, and it turns out all of those areas are confined to one mission. And that's off the top of my head.
Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What's he lied about?Shadowman wrote:Did you follow the news on WfC before and after its release? If you did, you'd learn one valuable lesson: Tieger lies.
Lots of things. We were told we'd get an explanation on why Megatron keeps Starscream around. We didn't get that. We were told we'd have character customization, when all we got was the ability to apply a severely limited number of colors to recycled models. We were told that we'd visit a bunch of places on Cybertron mentioned in other fiction, and it turns out all of those areas are confined to one mission. And that's off the top of my head.
MINDVVIPE wrote:I think they meant to say they would give you some background on how Megatron and SS linked up. Does anyone really know why Megatron keeps SS around? Thats more fun when there isn't any definitive answer, even if we do get answers in the comics and such (when Megatron tells Starscream he is just for show in one of the comics).
MINDVVIPE wrote:There is character customization. To the extent that you can pick a class>abilities>weapons>colour>skin.
Thats not bad, Not every game needs to be crazy cuztomizable. I'd rather it stay at this level of complexity, and just have more choices added in. Well, maybe a lil more complexity would be fun, but right now, imo, it works for me.
MINDVVIPE wrote:I did see different places on Cybertron, but I agree, it'd be cool if they spent more time making each singleplayer map segment stand out more with its own feel. Still, I definitely wasn't dissapointed enough to complain about what is in the game.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Kaon was in Chapter VII.Shadowman wrote:But that's the thing, they specifically said there would be areas visited or mentioned in other media, fairly obscure areas. And all of them were contained in one mission. (Chapter III, to be precise)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Kaon was in Chapter VII.Shadowman wrote:But that's the thing, they specifically said there would be areas visited or mentioned in other media, fairly obscure areas. And all of them were contained in one mission. (Chapter III, to be precise)
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:No, they said they'd explain why Megatron tolerates Starscream's continued existence, which has been bugging everyone since day 1. This isn't the kind of deal where it's more fun not knowing. Megatron has had Starscream at gunpoint numerous times, and yet it wasn't until he was reformatted into Galvatron that he actually pulled the trigger, and no one knows why. They said they'd explain it, and then all Megatron says is that Starscream's cunning is "intriguing" which is the opposite of an explanation.
Shadowman wrote:Right now, calling it character customization is a joke. The colors are far too limited, if I want, say, Megatron in game-accurate colors, well, tough, red's not available to Decepticons. And white isn't available to Autobots, so no armorless Ultra Magnus, or accurately-colored Arcee. And you can't even recolor most of the seeker body, that's mostly white, so getting that to look like anyone is impossible.
The weapon and ability selections are also very limited, four weapons per class (Several of which are shared by other classes) and four abilities? That's not a whole lot.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
BillNyeGuy wrote:Is that the Ark behind Dinobot in the Game Informer cover? I cant really tell because the arts kinda confusing right there. Makes sense that it probably would be seeing as the Fall of Cybertron will probably involve getting on the ark and getting to earth
MINDVVIPE wrote:Maybe Megatron likes having a patsy to blame the history of his failings on... or maybe he has an inferiority complex and likes to be beside a less attractive, dumber bot to make himself look better... Or maybe he has some sort of robo-sexual attraction to starscream that can't be satisfied without constant dressing downs and physical abuse.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Yea... Its more fun never knowing.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Speaking from a gaming POV, the colours might have been limited, but there was an obvious reason which was to ensure a visual distinction without forcing everyone to be either all blue or all red. A fair comprimise considering the alternative.
MINDVVIPE wrote:If anything, the customization was fine, it just needed more choices for guns. Even the limits and choices allowed as of now is enough that you can spend time mastering and remastering them. But hey, never bad to have more weapons. So fair enough.
MINDVVIPE wrote:There could have definitely been more variety in the maps, but I wouldn't care if they delivered less in regards to stated locations which they sorta did, but on an optimistic side, they had lots of fun levels, with some racing levels thrown in. With how the game industry works, I'm not going to call them liars, since they atleast delivered a lot of kickass stuff. So many things get cut out of games as they go along, its an industry miracle when we actually get (3/4) what we want, especially with the history of mostly bad TF games to set no bar.
MINDVVIPE wrote:If you want somthing to really bitch about, I think we can all agree High Moon needs to step up how they deal with post purchase dissonance. Waay up.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
prowl123 wrote:BillNyeGuy wrote:Is that the Ark behind Dinobot in the Game Informer cover? I cant really tell because the arts kinda confusing right there. Makes sense that it probably would be seeing as the Fall of Cybertron will probably involve getting on the ark and getting to earth
Are you really Bill Nye the Science Guy?
Shadowman wrote:What you just said.
BillNyeGuy wrote:Wait are you saying yes to me being bill nye or to my question about the ark?
And no im not bill nye but my name is bill and I did like the show (and science) growing up. Plus its the name I created awhile back and now use on every forum to avoid username and passwords confusion.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Lots of things
MINDVVIPE wrote:Anyway, you were saying they lied. I'm just saying, where they slipped, I forgave them.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
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