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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Changewinds » Sat May 22, 2021 11:25 am

o.supreme wrote:Just to piggyback on some other comments.... there was a Legends Chop Shop during CW, which was a retool of T30 Skrapnel, but yeah, the other Deluxe Insecticons are long overdue I agree, especially since 2 of them could also have been retooled from the other legends class Insecticons.

As for parts, price, are they worth it? The debate I don't think will ever end, especially as prices continue to rise. I'm glad to have picked up ER Prime for about $40, because that is what I think it was worth. Additionally, I don't think CC Rodimus is worth more than $60, but we will see.

Walmart stupidly put CC Jetfire at 1/2 off, and never restocked CC. Getting Skylynx at Target wasn't too hard, but never went on sale. I do think Amazon had a brief sale, but both CC sold very well. Getting CC Rodimus on sale is no guaranty, even though I don't personally think it is worth it. A Great $50-$60 toy, not $80 is all I am saying.

I did the same for Earthrise OP, only got it when the price was right because the trailer wasn’t worth the full price.
CC Skylynx didn’t go on sale but Target had that 25% off coupon over the holidays that did put him at the $60 price point. The pandemic screwed with suppliers so who knows if retail orders were cancelled or just put on hold. So it’s possible you could get CC Rodimus Prime for a better price if not necessarily a sale.
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat May 22, 2021 4:17 pm

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Commander class Rodimus Prime out in stores now in Australia!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun May 23, 2021 8:00 am

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Around here only Target carries the commander class figures, I guess I'll have to start checking mine. I'm really on the fence over this figure, having it in hand will decide for me.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Sun May 23, 2021 10:19 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Around here only Target carries the commander class figures, I guess I'll have to start checking mine. I'm really on the fence over this figure, having it in hand will decide for me.


I think Target is the ONLY B&M carrier of CC in the U.S. However I would not go searching any time soon. That release, like wave 3 Galvatron was super early. U.S. Release is not supposed to be until around September, no doubt the rest of the world will probably get it before then.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun May 23, 2021 10:51 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Around here only Target carries the commander class figures, I guess I'll have to start checking mine. I'm really on the fence over this figure, having it in hand will decide for me.


I think Target is the ONLY B&M carrier of CC in the U.S. However I would not go searching any time soon. That release, like wave 3 Galvatron was super early. U.S. Release is not supposed to be until around September, no doubt the rest of the world will probably get it before then.

Meijer (midwest only) has sky lynx still, the one near me has like 4-5 sky lynxs left
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun May 23, 2021 11:17 am

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o.supreme wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Around here only Target carries the commander class figures, I guess I'll have to start checking mine. I'm really on the fence over this figure, having it in hand will decide for me.


I think Target is the ONLY B&M carrier of CC in the U.S. However I would not go searching any time soon. That release, like wave 3 Galvatron was super early. U.S. Release is not supposed to be until around September, no doubt the rest of the world will probably get it before then.
Yeah i figured that, it'll probably be July or August when I'll start looking. My Wal-Mart sold Jetfire, and marked him down almost immediately, so I think they decided not to do commander class. My target had 2 Sky Lynxes total since that figure's release, and I picked up the 1st one.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 23, 2021 7:59 pm

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"Behold... DINOMUS!"

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun May 23, 2021 8:05 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:"Behold... DINOMUS!"

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Okay Hasbro, so when are we getting that figure :shock:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Sun May 23, 2021 9:17 pm

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Supposedly retail in Australia, it is all over Twitter just like the Dinobot card that Sabrblade posted. No clue what the original Reddit source for this image is though. Duh, it's in the image...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Sun May 23, 2021 9:21 pm

aronjlove wrote:
E2Hk9YhWYAE2YvL.jpg

Supposedly retail in Australia, it is all over Twitter just like the Dinobot card that Sabrblade posted. No clue what the original Reddit source for this image is though. Duh, it's in the image...

I also saw a couple of comments saying in the US he will be a Red Card exclusive.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun May 23, 2021 9:45 pm

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So what is that Dinomus supposed to be? Is it a misprint? Or a new character using a Dinobot repaint?

And by now is it a certainty that the leader Megatron was never released with that snarling face variant that T-Wrecks appears to have?

And as I look at that T-Wrecks in the wild, I can't help but think 'holy crap what a cheap money grab by Hasbro.' That plain, bland chest is just offensive.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 23, 2021 9:52 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:So what is that Dinomus supposed to be? Is it a misprint? Or a new character using a Dinobot repaint?
The card's bottom text - https://twitter.com/PHC_Pod/status/1396580970455838722

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"Becomes Dinomus.. herald of Unicron"
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Mon May 24, 2021 7:43 am

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Sabrblade wrote:"Behold... DINOMUS!"

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That's a sweet design and it would be great if a toy is made of it. Perhaps Dinobot ends up becoming Dinomus in the Netflix cartoon? Unicron has appeared in the cartoon already, so the foundation is there for that kind of storyline.
As much as I like the Kingdom Megatron mould, I have no interest in buying T-Wrecks, but at the very least it's nice that they did some new art for his packaging and didn't just re-colour Megatron's box art.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 24, 2021 7:47 am

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Who wants to bet that the Netflix show forgoes Dinobot's Maximal defection and instead makes him Unicron's herald, Dinomus, as the new final boss of the cartoon (with Megatron changing his fate by evolving into Beast Megatron instead of Galvatron and Prime becoming Primal)?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Mon May 24, 2021 8:26 am

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Well, I guess I'm going to Target after work.
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Postby o.supreme » Mon May 24, 2021 8:51 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Who wants to bet that the Netflix show forgoes Dinobot's Maximal defection and instead makes him Unicron's herald, Dinomus, as the new final boss of the cartoon (with Megatron changing his fate by evolving into Beast Megatron instead of Galvatron and Prime becoming Primal)?


It's possible. It's also possible that it is something shown in a vision for just one second ala Nemesis Prime. Dinobot stares into the Golden Disk and sees it as one possible outcome for himself.

@aronj- That is awesome about Rhinox. I recently gifted Kingdom Dinobot to a friend of mine's son. My friends favorite character is Rhinox to which i gifted him just a piece of paper saying "Coming in September"- I'd be super excited to be able to give it to him early. The DPCI actually works on brickseek. Not sure how accurate that site is any more though. It helped getting ER Scorponok last year
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Postby MGrotusque » Mon May 24, 2021 10:14 am

At $120 Canadian this is horribly over priced. He's only labeled as leader class because it's Rodimus Prime. I'll stick to my G1 RP. THe difference in value and bang for your buck between Skylynx, Jetfire and this voyager class Rodimus is stark to say the least.
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Postby o.supreme » Mon May 24, 2021 10:22 am

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MGrotusque wrote:At $120 Canadian this is horribly over priced. He's only labeled as leader class because it's Rodimus Prime. I'll stick to my G1 RP. THe difference in value and bang for your buck between Skylynx, Jetfire and this voyager class Rodimus is stark to say the least.


I think you meant Commander Class. Also, yes the price is quite divisive among fans, but not for the reason you stated. I don't think the name Rodimus Prime, or even the character in fiction was the determining factor in making it CC. If you look at PvP video review, the dimensions of Rodimus' trailer and ER Optimus' trailer are practically the same, it's just that Rodimus trailer has a lot more going on with it. Added Plastic, added engineering, and more accessories equates to a $30 price hike business decision by Hasbro. Some are ok with it, and some are not.
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Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon May 24, 2021 10:44 am

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MGrotusque wrote:At $120 Canadian this is horribly over priced. He's only labeled as leader class because it's Rodimus Prime. I'll stick to my G1 RP. THe difference in value and bang for your buck between Skylynx, Jetfire and this voyager class Rodimus is stark to say the least.


I think you meant Commander Class. Also, yes the price is quite divisive among fans, but not for the reason you stated. I don't think the name Rodimus Prime, or even the character in fiction was the determining factor in making it CC. If you look at PvP video review, the dimensions of Rodimus' trailer and ER Optimus' trailer are practically the same, it's just that Rodimus trailer has a lot more going on with it. Added Plastic, added engineering, and more accessories equates to a $30 price hike business decision by Hasbro. Some are ok with it, and some are not.


That empty box of ER trailer for Optimus was enough to justify the leader price.
So for a FULL trailer that is bigger and heavier with ALL the original gimmicks and then some, this justify the commander class. Especially since the bot himself, even though "voyager size", clearly have the parts count of a leader.

Plus I don't feel that Rodimus will need any upgrade kits. Not for extra weapons nor even gap fillers. Definitely worth the full price.
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I think a lot of people are still stuck in the "class=size" mindset
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-Kanrabat- wrote:Especially since the bot himself, even though "voyager size", clearly have the parts count of a leader.
I think a lot of people are still stuck in the "class=size" mindset

They should go buy those big ass Cyberverse figures then :lol:
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-Kanrabat- wrote:Especially since the bot himself, even though "voyager size", clearly have the parts count of a leader.
I think a lot of people are still stuck in the "class=size" mindset


Yeah. People needs to let go of the past. Those giant leaders of the RotF, Cybertron, 2007 Movie, DotM era are OVER.
Hell, remember when the 2007 leader Optimus Prime was reissued for the anniversary of the movie, the TRIBUTE version in 2017? That mofo was 90$US at the normal price. If you maybe remove 10$ for the "premium" markup, that's the price of a Commander. He also have the size heft and weight of a commander.

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Postby o.supreme » Mon May 24, 2021 11:21 am

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Obviously to me, it's not that simple. I agree the toys are getting better designs, and more complex engineering, QC issues aside. But is it worth it? Not to me. I got ER Astrotrain and Prime at the beginning of 2020 at Target BOGO 1/2 off, so in total, I paid just under $40 for each. I got Doubledealer on sale from Amazon for about the same price. I paid Full Price for both Siege Jetfire & ER Skylynx, because to me, they were worth it.

Although what Kingdom Rodimus has going for it, may be more than any current Leader Class toy, can anyone rightfully say it has the complexity, engineering, etc... of Jetfire or Skylynx? I know a few people have postal scales. I'd like to see the sheer weight of all 3 CC figures compared. Again, I'm not saying I am right or wrong, but if Rodimus has enough *heft* to equal either of the former CC toys, I would be impressed, and it would sway my opinion in favor of Rodimus' CC status.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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o.supreme wrote:Although what Kingdom Rodimus has going for it, may be more than any current Leader Class toy, can anyone rightfully say it has the complexity, engineering, etc... of Jetfire or Skylynx?.


I'm pretty sure. Skylinx and Jetfire are simple designs and they have a lot of VOLUME but not much complexity. I'll be getting Roddy when it will come out and I'll be curious to compare their weight with all their accessories on my scale.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #348 - Uno
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