I agree 100%. I'm surprised he didn't go into the SS 86 figures though. It'd seem a better fit, unless there's something about Kingdom that I've missedRodimus Prime wrote:..the only Kingdom figure I want is Cyclonus.
Not that I know of. May be we'll find out in the Earthrise show from Netflix. And yeah I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.transformers_va wrote:I agree 100%. I'm surprised he didn't go into the SS 86 figures though. It'd seem a better fit, unless there's something about Kingdom that I've missedRodimus Prime wrote:..the only Kingdom figure I want is Cyclonus.
The answer was already given by one of the leakers. Hasbro wanted to celebrate both anniversaries (of TFTM and Beast Wars) at the same time.o.supreme wrote:Why characters specifically from TF:TM are getting spread across two lines for the 35th anniversary is anybody's guess
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?Rodimus Prime wrote:Not that I know of. May be we'll find out in the Earthrise show from Netflix. And yeah I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.transformers_va wrote:I agree 100%. I'm surprised he didn't go into the SS 86 figures though. It'd seem a better fit, unless there's something about Kingdom that I've missedRodimus Prime wrote:..the only Kingdom figure I want is Cyclonus.
No, if he is in SS 86, then disregard it. I didn't think he was. But why wouldn't he and Cyclonus be together, regardless of line of release?Nemesis Primal wrote:Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.
To further encourage people to buy from both lines.Rodimus Prime wrote:No, if he is in SS 86, then disregard it. I didn't think he was. But why wouldn't he and Cyclonus be together, regardless of line of release?Nemesis Primal wrote:Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Meh, I guess that's a result of marketing research. Honestly I don't think it's that effective, most fans buy specific figures, regardless of line. As I said previously, so far Cyclonus is the only Kingdom figure I want and getting him won't make me buy any others from that line.Sabrblade wrote:To further encourage people to buy from both lines.Rodimus Prime wrote:No, if he is in SS 86, then disregard it. I didn't think he was. But why wouldn't he and Cyclonus be together, regardless of line of release?Nemesis Primal wrote:Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.
Whether it's one or 100 purchases, they still got you to buy from Kingdom.Rodimus Prime wrote:Meh, I guess that's a result of marketing research. Honestly I don't think it's that effective, most fans buy specific figures, regardless of line. As I said previously, so far Cyclonus is the only Kingdom figure I want and getting him won't make me buy any others from that line.Sabrblade wrote:To further encourage people to buy from both lines.Rodimus Prime wrote:No, if he is in SS 86, then disregard it. I didn't think he was. But why wouldn't he and Cyclonus be together, regardless of line of release?Nemesis Primal wrote:Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Whether it's one or 100 purchases, they still got you to buy from Kingdom.Rodimus Prime wrote:Meh, I guess that's a result of marketing research. Honestly I don't think it's that effective, most fans buy specific figures, regardless of line. As I said previously, so far Cyclonus is the only Kingdom figure I want and getting him won't make me buy any others from that line.Sabrblade wrote:To further encourage people to buy from both lines.Rodimus Prime wrote:No, if he is in SS 86, then disregard it. I didn't think he was. But why wouldn't he and Cyclonus be together, regardless of line of release?Nemesis Primal wrote:Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Whether it's one or 100 purchases, they still got you to buy from Kingdom.Rodimus Prime wrote:Meh, I guess that's a result of marketing research. Honestly I don't think it's that effective, most fans buy specific figures, regardless of line. As I said previously, so far Cyclonus is the only Kingdom figure I want and getting him won't make me buy any others from that line.Sabrblade wrote:To further encourage people to buy from both lines.Rodimus Prime wrote:No, if he is in SS 86, then disregard it. I didn't think he was. But why wouldn't he and Cyclonus be together, regardless of line of release?Nemesis Primal wrote:Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.yeah I guess. Had they kept Scourge and Cyclonus together, the line could have had return business. I doubt Hasbro *really* cares which line the purchases come from. It all goes to their bottom line.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Whether it's one or 100 purchases, they still got you to buy from Kingdom.Rodimus Prime wrote:Meh, I guess that's a result of marketing research. Honestly I don't think it's that effective, most fans buy specific figures, regardless of line. As I said previously, so far Cyclonus is the only Kingdom figure I want and getting him won't make me buy any others from that line.Sabrblade wrote:To further encourage people to buy from both lines.Rodimus Prime wrote:No, if he is in SS 86, then disregard it. I didn't think he was. But why wouldn't he and Cyclonus be together, regardless of line of release?Nemesis Primal wrote:Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.yeah I guess. Had they kept Scourge and Cyclonus together, the line could have had return business. I doubt Hasbro *really* cares which line the purchases come from. It all goes to their bottom line.
transformers_va wrote:One bad apple? No. However an entire line (Kingdom) of junk kiddified toys.. perhaps?Sabrblade wrote:Shall we write off the entire line based off one bad apple?transformers_va wrote:Sorry, but in 2020, I would hope HasTak could do better than "sometimes"chuckdawg1999 wrote:transformers_va wrote:Straight to MP? That's quite a leapSabrblade wrote:You were expecting Masterpiece quality from a pint-sized $10 Scout class figure?transformers_va wrote:Seriously?!?, you think that OP is "fantastic"?ZeroWolf wrote:transformers_va wrote:Wow!! Wtf!! I feared that Kingdom was going to bring down the quality that we saw in Siege (especially) and Earthrise, but these things are awful!!Why did they have to ruin such a good line of toys?
Each to their own, i think these are fantastic and I'm eagerly awaiting the coming Beast WarsThat looks cheap as ****!
lol
No, but given that we've had some neat little designs in the Micromaster class, I was hoping for something better in the Core class than that junk. In the review, OP's head cover couldn't even stay closed
Sometimes it can, sometimes.lol
Seriously, Siege was fantastic, Earthrise was good, but these Kingdom characters look awful in comparison
Rodimus Prime wrote:No, if he is in SS 86, then disregard it. I didn't think he was. But why wouldn't he and Cyclonus be together, regardless of line of release?Nemesis Primal wrote:Scourge IS in SS86 though? Or did I misinterpret the end of your statement there?I thought he would be in SS 86 as well, same with Scourge.
transformers_va wrote:One bad apple? No. However an entire line (Kingdom) of junk kiddified toys.. perhaps?
Seriously, Siege was fantastic, Earthrise was good, but these Kingdom characters look awful in comparison
o.supreme wrote:Why characters specifically from TF:TM are getting spread across two lines for the 35th anniversary is anybody's guess (Remember there is still Galvatron and an Earthmode UM coming in Kingdom). The prevailing fan theory is "not enough room" in one line or the other, which to me makes no sense, and I'm still not sold on. Of course while Hasbro does come up with some impressive ideas, they have had their share of headscratchers as well. I love TF:TM, but I'm not into collecting characters specifically from that movie. Still, I know hardcore fans are not going to be phased by the different look and aesthetic of the two lines (Kingdom vs SS86), after all, they've been piecemealing and upgrading their TF:TM cast together from whatever line releases a character since Classics/Generations began.
Very well said.Wolfman Jake wrote:To each their own, but you're definitely in the minority opinion on the Kingdom figures. They look great overall. These are not "junk" or "kiddified" toys. Just take a look at the elegance of Deluxe Class Warpath, of the effective simplicity of Deluxe Blackarachnia, or the nearly screen-perfect Voyager Class Cyclonus. The Core size class is its own thing, probably meant to give us some heavy hitting A-listers for the Ark playset/figure coming up in 2021. The only classic character of any import at this size class is Rattrap, for the sake of scaling properly with the Deluxe, Voyager, Leader, and Commander class characters in the line. The quality is definitely still there with Kingdom, whether it be for G1 characters or Beast Wars.
Wolfman Jake wrote:It's not a fan theory. Hasbro has told us this is the case, period. There were not enough slots in Kingdom for all of the 1986 movie characters AND the Beast Wars characters.
Wolfman Jake wrote:It's not a fan theory. Hasbro has told us this is the case, period. There were not enough slots in Kingdom for all of the 1986 movie characters AND the Beast Wars characters.
AcademyofDrX wrote:Could we maybe not debate WfC vs. SS-86 again, it wasn't any more interesting in the SS and ER threads when we talked it to death weeks ago.
Lines are marketing constructs, who cares
AcademyofDrX wrote:Could we maybe not debate WfC vs. SS-86 again, it wasn't any more interesting in the SS and ER threads when we talked it to death weeks ago.
Lines are marketing constructs, who cares
aronjlove wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:It's not a fan theory. Hasbro has told us this is the case, period. There were not enough slots in Kingdom for all of the 1986 movie characters AND the Beast Wars characters.
Which makes me wonder all the more why the even added BW to the WfC trilogy. They could easily have made a separate line for BW figures and then left SS to what it originally was, the live-action movies, and finished the G1-esque WfC with the '86 animated movie figures all in one line. I really feel like this third season/chapter whatever of WfC was sorta rushed and not thought out from a marketing standpoint.
Razorbeast88 wrote:aronjlove wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:It's not a fan theory. Hasbro has told us this is the case, period. There were not enough slots in Kingdom for all of the 1986 movie characters AND the Beast Wars characters.
Which makes me wonder all the more why the even added BW to the WfC trilogy. They could easily have made a separate line for BW figures and then left SS to what it originally was, the live-action movies, and finished the G1-esque WfC with the '86 animated movie figures all in one line. I really feel like this third season/chapter whatever of WfC was sorta rushed and not thought out from a marketing standpoint.
I can see where you're coming from on that one, but idk im a big fan of combining G1 with BW. I like the idea of optimus prime and optimus primal fighting side by side against the megatrons, and all the other potential team-ups and battles between characters. It does seem to be rushed though
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