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Wonder if the Kingdom cartoon will use Ultra Magnus?

Optimus:I thought Megatron had killed you!

Ultra Magnus:Yeah,but I got better.

Day 336 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

WHOO!!

I know what I'm doing Thursday, preordering a Birb and a Chopper-face.

I've already got Blackarachnia preordered to pair with my Silverbolt, but I guess now I'll now have to watch out for the Big Cat to go with Airazor.

Gotta say that Airazor and Dinobot are both absolutely magnificent and impressive. Both are true to the "Mini Masterpiece" moniker of this trilogy.

Ultra Magnus however, is a huge letdown. Only the front of the cab have been changed. The rest is exactly the same. It's as if the truck put on some cheap dollar store mask while claiming "I'm totally Earth Mode, guys!". The Siege original is vastly superior because at least, everything is consistent.

Airrazor looks A M A Z I N G. The ONLY gripe I have is the whole bird-talons-for-heels thing, and that's easily forgiven.

Dinobot is kinda bittersweet for me. Robot mode is spot-on but that raptor mode suffers. Like, not the worst dino-mode, but an upgrade kit is likely on the horizon. Still a guaranteed buy tho, and I think I'd rather have the weird yellow raptor chest than the gray streak running all the way up his leg and torso like on the box photo.

(Also, everyone's over here talking about his dino chest and head, but not about his goofy-ass raptor hands )

Magnus is fine. I can't say I like him overall more than Siege, but I wasn't planning on getting him anyhow. Maybe if he shows up cheap. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

-Crossfire- wrote:Dinobot is kinda bittersweet for me. Robot mode is spot-on but that raptor mode suffers. Like, not the worst dino-mode, but an upgrade kit is likely on the horizon. Still a guaranteed buy tho, and I think I'd rather have the weird yellow raptor chest than the gray streak running all the way up his leg and torso like on the box photo.

(Also, everyone's over here talking about his dino chest and head, but not about his goofy-ass raptor hands )

True, but he seems to have always had these weird ET-like fingers in the show. The sculpting of fusing them together just makes them weirder.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:why does everyone seem to forget the "butt" bumper slides up to be a backpack on Siege Magnus, and thus also will on Kingdom Magnus, especially given that's what the back of the box shows is true for the latter

I haven't, but also DAT ASS

Sabrblade wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Ultra Magnus has lost his G1 style belt/waist.

It's probably just flipped around backwards, with the white inner robot's waist facing forward.

Eeyup. *facepalm*

Rodimus Prime wrote:Hmm. It's gonna be tough to choose between Siege and Kingdom Magnus. I'm buying figures mainly to display on robot mode, so the Kingdom version looks better without the greeble, and I also like the truck mode better.

Once again, we disagree.
As a fan of the G1 toy (one of the most greeble-tastic toys in the whole of G1) I find the slight greeble reduction on his shoulders and chest a negative (although a minor one).

Definitely prefer the SIEGE version having the toy shoulders and the traction surface grating on the chest, even if it's vestigial in that case. But that's me.

Rodimus Prime wrote:But that smaller robot looks atrocious. I'm guessing the trailer/armor is the same, only the small robot/cab got reworked.

No, the trailer is also a bit tweaked. It now has imitations of G1 Magnus' trailer pillars, and the shoulder pylons mount further forward so that the cab sticks out instead of being partly covered by the upper deck.

I think the smaller robot would look better with full-service detailing. And perhaps different-color lower legs a la Classics Ultra Magnus.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Omegatron. wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm guessing the trailer/armor is the same, only the small robot/cab got reworked.

The trailer has been modified, but only slightly. It's not that obvious unless you have Siege Magnus next to him.

yeah the sides are way more open, there might be more but that's the first thing I noticed

Actually, the sides themselves are a little less open, because the RiD Magnus open grating has been covered on the frontmost and rearmost panels by imitations of the G1 trailer's pillars. The extra openness comes from the cab protruding more.

Overcracker wrote:Magnus is very mistransformed.

Magnus' transformation has been altered. The only mistransformation is failing to flip the codpiece around in armored robot mode.

Overcracker wrote:The trailer should peg in a bit further forward, to cover his inner robot arms and hands. His trailer should start over his shoulders (the red part), not back by his legs.

It's been changed so that the cab sticks out more, in an attempt to make him look less like RiD and more like G1. It may still be possible to connect it like the SIEGE version was, but the way it's shown is a deliberate change.

Overcracker wrote:Also his shoulder pieces look retooled from Siege/Netflix to be flatter and more G1

The SIEGE ones are equally G1, these just look more like the animation model (which had a flat, smooth right shoulder so they could put a faction symbol on it, and a dumbed-down version of the toy detailing on the left shoulder) than the toy.

Overcracker wrote:And it looks like his trailer panels have been retooled to removing one hinge and the front most panel. Not sure why they would do that.

They didn't remove the frontmost panel; they replaced the frontmost and rearmost panels with new ones that have representations of the G1 toy's trailer pillars.
Nor did they remove a hinge - it's just set up slightly differently because the upper deck taillights are now part of the white shin/inner calf pieces instead of being part of the trailer side panels.

Overcracker wrote:Magnus should look much better when he is properly put together in all of his modes.

For the most part, he already is. Aside from the failure to collapse the inner robot chest inward in one shot, and the failure to turn his codpiece around.

Overcracker wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
The trailer should peg in a bit further forward, to cover his inner robot arms and hands.

Back of the box art shows the trailer to be that way so it is how it has meant to be attached

And the back of the box has never been wrong?

No, but that's not the case here. The stock photo, the back of box photo, and the actual drawn art show it like that.

Overcracker wrote:Nope, its definitely wrong. The red back panel attaches over the shoulders and around the smokestacks.

No, that's where it attached on the SIEGE version. Like I said, he's been reworked in an effort to make him look more G1. Part of that is that the shoulder pylons, to which the cab attaches, are now connected to the forward-middle trailer panels.

Overcracker wrote:You can just make out the chest piece dipping down into the trailer when it should be straight when correctly transformed and pegged into the trailer side panels and the top of the shin panels.

What you can actually make out is the forearm covers, pegged in exactly where they should be. The chest is pegged in exactly where it's supposed to be. If anything, the blue part projects downward a bit more, but that's because it's been changed to be slightly more like MP-22 than a flattened version of the G1 toy.

Overcracker wrote:The picture on the back of the box is clearly missing the shoulder pylons that attach underneath the trailer and onto the inner robot's lower leg peg.

Oh really?

Take a close look by the cab's rear wheels. Take a good, hard look. Gee, that blue boxy thing with a narrower white boxy thing protruding from it sure looks an awful lot like a shoulder pylon!

Overcracker wrote:The back of the box in this case is incredibly wrong.

No, I'm afraid that would be you. You are the one who is incredibly wrong. You're so wrong about this you remind me of me circa 2011-12 on certain forums...

Jeddostotle7 wrote:why does everyone seem to forget the "butt" bumper slides up to be a backpack on Siege Magnus, and thus also will on Kingdom Magnus, especially given that's what the back of the box shows is true for the latter

Perhaps because it doesn't slide up particularly well, at least in my experience.

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:

-Crossfire- wrote:Dinobot is kinda bittersweet for me. Robot mode is spot-on but that raptor mode suffers. Like, not the worst dino-mode, but an upgrade kit is likely on the horizon. Still a guaranteed buy tho, and I think I'd rather have the weird yellow raptor chest than the gray streak running all the way up his leg and torso like on the box photo.

(Also, everyone's over here talking about his dino chest and head, but not about his goofy-ass raptor hands )

True, but he seems to have always had these weird ET-like fingers in the show. The sculpting of fusing them together just makes them weirder.

That, and that they seem to be sculpted in a permanent, fixed L shape.

...still waiting for wave 2 of Earthrise to show up in my stores

Rtron wrote:

GeekyGamer Gal wrote:

-Crossfire- wrote:Dinobot is kinda bittersweet for me. Robot mode is spot-on but that raptor mode suffers. Like, not the worst dino-mode, but an upgrade kit is likely on the horizon. Still a guaranteed buy tho, and I think I'd rather have the weird yellow raptor chest than the gray streak running all the way up his leg and torso like on the box photo.

(Also, everyone's over here talking about his dino chest and head, but not about his goofy-ass raptor hands )

True, but he seems to have always had these weird ET-like fingers in the show. The sculpting of fusing them together just makes them weirder.

That, and that they seem to be sculpted in a permanent, fixed L shape.

The fingers themselves look straight, the "L" comes from them hanging down at a right angle to the palms.

It does look a bit odd to have them stuck hanging down like that, but they probably have to be at that angle for transformation.

As for fusing them... Probably a mix of of keeping them compact for transformation, and protecting them from breakage.

Moments ago, Hasbro unveiled never-before-seen official product images and descriptions of the rest of Transformers War for Cybertron Kingdom Wave 2! The exciting new product reveals include Voyager Class Inferno, Core Class Starscream and Megatron, and Deluxe Class Ractonite and Huffer. This is in addition to the previous day's reveals of Voyager Class Dinobot, Deluxe Class Airazor and Leader Class Ultra Magnus, all of which are also included in this article. Check out all of the new reveals below.

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WAR FOR CYBERTRON: KINGDOM WAVE 2

Beastify the battlefield and collect other KINGDOM figures (each sold separately, subject to availability)! Worlds collide when the MAXIMALS and PREDACONS join the fight, coming together with the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS in an epic battle that will alter their destiny forever. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for pre-order on HasbroPulse.com beginning December 3, 2020 at 1:00PM EST.

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Core Class WFC-K12 Starscream
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $9.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K12 Core STARSCREAM collectible figure stands at 3.5 inches tall, converts to G1-inspired Earth Jet mode in 17 steps, and comes with his 2 classic Null Ray weapon accessories. The scheming DECEPTICON second-in-command allows fans to collect a mini version of the iconic character to pose out with other STARSCREAM figures at larger scales (each sold separately, subject to availability)!


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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Core Class WFC-K13 Megatron
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $9.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K13 Core MEGATRON collectible figure stands at 3.5 inches tall, converts to classic Earth tank mode with a swivel turret in 12 steps, and comes with Fusion Cannon and blaster accessories. The Blaster accessory is inspired by the G1 alt mode of MEGATRON and can connect to his Fusion Cannon accessory. The brutal DECEPTICON leader allows fans to collect a mini version of the iconic character to pose out with other MEGATRON figures at larger scales (each sold separately, subject to availability)!


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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Deluxe Class WFC-K14 Airazor
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K14 Deluxe AIRAZOR collectible figure stands at 5.5 inches tall, converts to Beast Wars-inspired falcon mode in 22 steps with intricate molded feather texture, and features wing, lower beak, and tail feather articulation that allow for more realistic falcon poses. AIRAZOR comes with 2 Photon Blaster accessories that attach to the figure's wrists and a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!


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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Deluxe Class WFC-K15 Ractonite
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K15 Deluxe RACTONITE collectible figure stands at 5.5 inches tall, converts to Styracosaurus fossil mode in 16 steps, and features lower jaw articulation optimal for roaring poses. RACTONITE comes with a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!

Unleash the primal power of the beasts with the ancient and highly advanced F.O.S.S.I.L. (Fossilized Osteo-Skeletal Shield Integration Loadout) technology. Sentient FOSSILIZER bots, infused with primordial energy, break apart and weaponize their allies. Use this Deluxe PREDACON FOSSILIZZER figure to beastify other figures with epic bone armor (each sold separately, subject to availability)! Worlds collide when the MAXIMALS and PREDACONS join the fight, coming together with the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS in an epic battle that will alter their destiny forever. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for pre-order on HasbroPulse.com beginning December 3, 2020 at 1:00PM EST.


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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Deluxe Class WFC-K16 Huffer
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K16 Deluxe HUFFER collectible figure stands at 5.5 inches tall and converts to truck mode in 14 steps where the truck bed can convert to shield and Energon blaster accessories. The G1-inspired figure can attach to the WFC-K11 OPTIMUS PRIME trailer so fans can recreate the G1 scene from the Heavy Metal War episode where HUFFER must tow the trailer after OPTIMUS PRIME is badly injured in a battle with MEGATRON. The figure also comes with a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!


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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Deluxe Class WFC-K17 Arcee
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $19.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K17 Deluxe ARCEE collectible G1-inspired figure stands at 5.5 inches tall, converts to Earth sportscar mode in 15 steps, comes with a blaster accessory, and part of the figure's backpack can be removed for a sleeker look and used as a hoverboard accessory. Deadly warriors do, in fact, come in pink! The figure also comes with a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!


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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Voyager Class WFC-K18 Dinobot
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $29.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K18 Voyager DINOBOT collectible figure stands at 7 inches tall, converts to Beast Wars-inspired raptor mode in 28 steps with intricate molded dinosaur scale texture, and features articulated claws and a posable jaw allowing for realistic velociraptor poses. DINOBOT’s tail detaches from raptor mode during conversion and becomes his Cyber Slash tail weapon and sword accessories. No matter the weapon or the foe, DINOBOT always fights with honor. DINOBOT also includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!


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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Voyager Class WFC-K19 Inferno
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $29.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K19 Voyager INFERNO collectible G1-inspired figure stands at 7 inches tall, converts to firetruck mode in 17 steps, comes with classic G1-inspired extinguisher blaster accessory, and features an extendable ladder that can be ratcheted to different angles. In the heat of things, Inferno stays cool under pressure! INFERNO also includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!


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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Leader Class WFC-K20 Ultra Magnus
(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $49.99 / Available: April 1, 2021)

The WFC-K20 Leader ULTRA MAGNUS collectible figure stands at 7.5 inches tall, converts to G1-inspired Earth armored truck mode in 12 steps, and comes with a blaster accessory. Fans can use parts from the truck trailer to armor figure up. ULTRA MAGNUS has been partially remolded and deco'd to best reflect
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-Crossfire- wrote:A

(Also, everyone's over here talking about his dino chest and head, but not about his goofy-ass raptor hands )

There was a bit of discussion about the raptor hands a couple pages back.

While not a massive deal breaker, I now can't shift the thought that Dinobot's tail looks like a ball point pen

Oh, I so want that Dinobot and Airazor. Nice for them to finally get good toys at non-MP prices.

Dinobot looks great. A definite must buy for me.

Magnus ... I mean I want an official Earth mode magnus. And he won't replace City Commander for me, anyway.

Did ... did they really think giving him that big butt would be alright? Maybe it's not as bad in person. If they're gonna remold, why not remold the fists so they could store in the arms in vehicle mode. Man, some of these deigns are stellar while others just baffle me.

Tremendous effort to turn Siege Optimus into the ER version.
But they slept for Magnus.

With all these reveals happening, I'm ready for some shots of The Ark.

That is a very impressive Airazor!

Dinobot...



If a figure design from 1996 had the sense to bend his legs in on themselves at the knee to streamline the Beast Mode. How does a figure from 2020 botch that?

This is Masterpiece Blackarachnia all over again. I've even read those defending it in the last few pages. Just like BA... Sigh

Sabrblade wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Did ... did they really think giving him that big butt would be alright?

It's mistransformed.

Oh, yeah, it liftes up.

That makes it a little better. Although it's still not great.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:That is a very impressive Airazor!

Dinobot...



If a figure design from 1996 had the sense to bend his legs in on themselves at the knee to streamline the Beast Mode. How does a figure from 2020 botch that?

This is Masterpiece Blackarachnia all over again. I've even read those defending it in the last few pages. Just like BA... Sigh

The original Dinobot being streamlined is... very debatable. We'll have to wait until we see it in hand, but it seems like the legs hide better in the Kingdom one, as the raptor's body seems to have space carved out for them go into. Which is unsurprising, as the legs are just there in your face in the original one, just resting there against a flat surface.

I say this as someone with an immense nostalgic attachment to the mold, as Beast Wars Grimlock was my one of my first and favourite transformers, but: It's hard to find a worse way to deal with the robot legs than the one used in the original Beast Wars Dinobot.

New Kingdom Wave 2 product reveals are back a couple of posts or you can view them here: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-wave-2-revealed-with-official-product-images-and-descriptions/45472/

Yesssss, love the core figures (like the mini megatron gun), and huffer looks spot on as well, though my brain keeps interpreting his shield as a giant fist for some reason.

Starscream and Megatron look like miniaturized versions of their voyager figures. I like how Megatron has his G1 gun mode as his hand weapon.

And looks like Huffer can pull Prime's trailer after all. I'll be getting Huffer and Inferno for sure, and maybe Dinobot as well (but those raptor hands ). Airazor looks very screen accurate.

I don't know why they can't transform Magnus properly for production shots if they could do it for these new action shots. Weird.

Overall, wave 2 looks to be a lot of fun. When is The Ark coming?