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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:He was going to be so good... But this one thing...
I just don't know what to do now.

Watch Emgo. He's quite extensive with the comparisons and I think the scale work perfect.

Skip to 27:00

I was already on the fence about Rodimus, but if he's too short against Galvatron, it's a pass. I find emgo **** annoying (I'm convinced he has some kind of mental deficiency), but I braved his review since I only needed to see the minute-long clip of comparisons, and Rodimus is definitely too small. He should be bigger than Springer and Cyclonus and he isn't. That's not right. I noticed he was the same height as the Optimus figure, which I believe is the guideline they used to design him, but it hinders him. If he was only a head taller, it would work. But as it is, it's a hard pass. I didn't think it was worth $80 before, and it certainly isn't now. The paint apps are really sharp, he looks great otherwise. Just too damn short.

Yes, they set his height by the undersized representation of the guy who spent most of his existence dead, instead of against Galvatron like they should have.
Screw WFC Optimus and the Equinoid he rode in on. Worthless undersized overengineered junk that caused another figure to be underheight.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:He was going to be so good... But this one thing...
I just don't know what to do now.

Watch Emgo. He's quite extensive with the comparisons and I think the scale work perfect.

Skip to 27:00

1. Wrong timestamp, since 27:00 is just a comparison with SS86 Hot Rod.
2. The relevant comparison just reaffirms the failure: Roddy's head only comes up to the base of Galvatron's neck. Which is no good...

It's very frustrating, because everything else about him is so good.
But all of that's completely undermined by him coming up short next to Galvatron. The scene of Rodimus picking up Galvatron and chucking him into space shows they should be pretty much the same, as do subsequent encounters... So getting this right was an absolute necessity.
It's probably too late for HasTak to fix this colossal failure... And I doubt the 3P dunderheads will turn out a height fix that actually integrates transformably...

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:He was going to be so good... But this one thing...
I just don't know what to do now.

Watch Emgo. He's quite extensive with the comparisons and I think the scale work perfect.

Skip to 27:00

1. Wrong timestamp, since 27:00 is just a comparison with SS86 Hot Rod.
2. The relevant comparison just reaffirms the failure: Roddy's head only comes up to the base of Galvatron's neck. Which is no good...

27:00 is where the comparisons start. It gets to Galvatron like 15 seconds after. And it saves you from having to look through the whole review.

Maybe find/wait for a different Galvatron that's an inch shorter?
Or give Roddie Astrotrains boots or a fossilizer/weaponizer?
Or I guess wait for a new roddie or go 3P, it shouldn't be that much longer before a new one comes out though

Maybe Galvatron is the one that's too tall instead of Roddy being too short? Not that the main bad guy being taller is a problem in my eyes, but Roddy, Optimus, Megatron, and Glvatron should all be about the same height.

Yes. Galvatron is the one who is off. It's possible having him rival Ultra Magnus instead of Rodimus was what they had in mind.

I just did a size comparison: Galvatron is only slightly shorter than Magnus. Remember, both their roles were as City Commander in the original toyline.

i think the height disparity is distracting from the fact that RodPrime is proportionally a LARGER figure then regular RodHot, and in that vain he may appear better along side Galvatron and Optimus.

And I do hope that as more .. thoughtful reviews, pictorial or video, come out y'all will warm up to him, hate to see excited fans miss out on a good figure. Personally, on the merits of the toy itself will still be trying to pick it up, but probably not for 70/80 dollars. Got Jetfire on sale so my hopes are high

If you absolutely doesn't want the thing, you wouldn't have to make random excuses to get it.

If the only reason to not get a toy is a tiny random insignificant detail like it's half an inch "too short", it mean that you want it deep down. So you'll skip, then some months later come to regret it, then see that the only ones available are on the secondary market at double or triple the price.

It happened too many times for me already. So I learned that if I have just one gripe about a toy that I think it's pretty fine and nice overall, I'd better get it.
DOTM Guzzle, Throne of the Primes, and so many other.................

-Kanrabat- wrote:If you absolutely doesn't want the thing, you wouldn't have to make random excuses to get it.

If the only reason to not get a toy is a tiny random insignificant detail like it's half an inch "too short", it mean that you want it deep down. So you'll skip, then some months later come to regret it, then see that the only ones available are on the secondary market at double or triple the price.

It happened too many times for me already. So I learned that if I have just one gripe about a toy that I think it's pretty fine and nice overall, I'd better get it.
DOTM Guzzle, Throne of the Primes, and so many other.................

While I do agree with this sentiment for a good chunk of figures, I think there are other issues with Rodimus (cost, size, sculpt details, and accessories being the most common), plus, at $70-80, if you're hoping for a figure to have one thing (ability to rival Galvatron in height), I think regardless of the other details, if the one thing you wanted most was his height to be equal to his rival, and Rodimus doesn't have that, it's not worth the $70-80.

It's all up to consumers. Personally, I'll probably pick up Rodimus, but I also really like the accessories he comes with, and don't really care whether or not he's in perfect scale. If you were wanting him for scale reasons, and the accessories were an extra that you were probably going to sell, then he's not worth it

I won't be buying Rodimus Prime, and I still think he shouldn't have been this year's Commander. A Leader with a smaller trailer would've worked just fine, even if it has only been three years since Power of the Primes Rodimus. As it is, Studio Series 1986 Hot Rod is good enough for me.

Munkky wrote:I won't be buying Rodimus Prime, and I still think he shouldn't have been this year's Commander. A Leader with a smaller trailer would've worked just fine, even if it has only been three years since Power of the Primes Rodimus. As it is, Studio Series 1986 Hot Rod is good enough for me.

A leader class rodimus Prime would have literally been just ss86 hot rod with a hollow shell of a trailer. The tooling we see in Rodimus Prime here takes him well past the Voyager price point.

I don't mind him being smaller then Galvatron, just makes it more fitting that he comes out on top over Galvy.

Or better yet, just put Rodimus on his gun platform and point the guns at Galvatron and watch your height worries drop away as you imagine the Decepticon being given new ventilation holes.

I'm also in the Galvatron is too big camp since he's also bigger than Cyclonus. Should have made him Voyager size with more extras.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I'm also in the Galvatron is too big camp since he's also bigger than Cyclonus. Should have made him Voyager size with more extras.

Emerje

Uhm... a video review showed him to be the same height as TR Galvatron.

aronjlove wrote:As Galvatron is starting to be found in the wild, I'd like to point out that the 'shoulder fix' is truly optional as it is purely cosmetic and does not change the function of the figure or the transformation. Furthermore, with the way the arms become the tank treads, the fix doesn't even affect them.

I tried to do the fix and stopped, I don't want to risk stress marks or cracks (there is a youtube vid I was following). It is not an easy fix at all but a quicker fix if you want the arms looking correctly is just turn the shoulders around, only thing this does is when he is in bot mode you have nothing to lock the treads into behind the arms.

Besides that I am digging Galvatron.

Finally found Rhinox for a friend of mine. . Every time I see Magnus now, it's basically a taunt that "Galvatron was here and you missed it" . Oh well. It's still just starting to show up.

My greater concern is about Rodimus. I have it pre-ordered, but I still like seeing as many toys as possible at retail. It would be a shame if Target gave up on CC ( which means they probably won't be selling the Titan Class either). I mean I saw Skylynx a few times, but it certainly was no shelf warmer,he and ER Scorponok were extremely limited, and sold out quickly, not like the Bayverse MP's they had to clearance to get rid of.

o.supreme wrote:Finally found Rhinox for a friend of mine. . Every time I see Magnus now, it's basically a taunt that "Galvatron was here and you missed it" . Oh well. It's still just starting to show up.

My greater concern is about Rodimus. I have it pre-ordered, but I still like seeing as many toys as possible at retail. It would be a shame if Target gave up on CC ( which means they probably won't be selling the Titan Class either). I mean I saw Skylynx a few times, but it certainly was no shelf warmer,he and ER Scorponok were extremely limited, and sold out quickly, not like the Bayverse MP's they had to clearance to get rid of.

The main thing i'm starting to question-specifically with Target (San Jose/Cupertino) is if there's bots/scalpers that spam the website and "pick up in store" and thus inventory is getting cleaned out before it's even hitting the shelf. I managed to start seeing Core-Class Soundwave and Rhinox down here... but literally everything else has been a ghost town.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Finally found Rhinox for a friend of mine. . Every time I see Magnus now, it's basically a taunt that "Galvatron was here and you missed it" . Oh well. It's still just starting to show up.

My greater concern is about Rodimus. I have it pre-ordered, but I still like seeing as many toys as possible at retail. It would be a shame if Target gave up on CC ( which means they probably won't be selling the Titan Class either). I mean I saw Skylynx a few times, but it certainly was no shelf warmer,he and ER Scorponok were extremely limited, and sold out quickly, not like the Bayverse MP's they had to clearance to get rid of.

The main thing i'm starting to question-specifically with Target (San Jose/Cupertino) is if there's bots/scalpers that spam the website and "pick up in store" and thus inventory is getting cleaned out before it's even hitting the shelf. I managed to start seeing Core-Class Soundwave and Rhinox down here... but literally everything else has been a ghost town.

No, assortment-based products (pretty much all action figures and the like) are not available for in-store pick-up, or anything of that nature because the company has no way to track which stores have which figures specifically. Usually the site will just say "check your local store" and "inventory may vary", things like that

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Finally found Rhinox for a friend of mine. . Every time I see Magnus now, it's basically a taunt that "Galvatron was here and you missed it" . Oh well. It's still just starting to show up.

My greater concern is about Rodimus. I have it pre-ordered, but I still like seeing as many toys as possible at retail. It would be a shame if Target gave up on CC ( which means they probably won't be selling the Titan Class either). I mean I saw Skylynx a few times, but it certainly was no shelf warmer,he and ER Scorponok were extremely limited, and sold out quickly, not like the Bayverse MP's they had to clearance to get rid of.

The main thing i'm starting to question-specifically with Target (San Jose/Cupertino) is if there's bots/scalpers that spam the website and "pick up in store" and thus inventory is getting cleaned out before it's even hitting the shelf. I managed to start seeing Core-Class Soundwave and Rhinox down here... but literally everything else has been a ghost town.

No, assortment-based products (pretty much all action figures and the like) are not available for in-store pick-up, or anything of that nature because the company has no way to track which stores have which figures specifically. Usually the site will just say "check your local store" and "inventory may vary", things like that

^^^^This.

But I would clarify, occasionally when Walmart/Target do have an option to pick up in store it is likely at a future date and would be actually shipped to your store from the online warehouse and not come from your stores stock.

Picked up Inferno at Target

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm also in the Galvatron is too big camp since he's also bigger than Cyclonus. Should have made him Voyager size with more extras.

Emerje

Uhm... a video review showed him to be the same height as TR Galvatron.

What does that have to do with WFC Voyagers and him being bigger than WFC Voyager Cyclonus? If he was the same size as as Rodimus (and Megatron and Optimus) he'd be properly shorter than Cyclonus.

This looks right.


This looks wrong.


Emerje

Yup. As far as "pure G1" is concerned, Kingdom Galvatron is the one who is too big.

However, if we can set the WFC figures in their own universe (à la Netflix) it work. Especially when the villain is supposed to be the ultimate hurdle to jump over for the hero.

Emerje wrote:
This looks wrong.

Galvatron.JPG

Emerje

No kidding it looks wrong. That Galvatron needs his shoulders fixed!

It is worth noting, though, that Galvatron is standing closer to the camera in that picture, so his height difference is being exaggerated. You can tell when you look at the feet that something is up with the angle of view.

It's all a matter of opinion.

In my opinion leaders should be slightly taller and larger than subordinates, except in certain cases like Titans or combiners. So I think Galvatron bring bigger than Cyclonus is fine. It's Rodimus and Prime (and even Shockwave and Megatron) who are a bit too short.

I've solved it!!!!

Galvatron's height is wrong, and the shoulder mis-assembly is intentional because it then puts at least the shoulders at the correct scale with Rodimus prime and the rest of WFC.