Still the Earthrise mold.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Trailer-less, that is.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Allegedly, the original leaker mentioned somewhere that the Voyager Optimus Prime and Starscream are just gonna be repacks on their Earthrise toys a la Siege Astrotrain, Rung, Smashdown, and the Battle Squad all getting repacked in Earthrise.
But an actual earthrise prime rerelease would be a leader no?
So its a rerelease of the Netflix release, not earthrise then.
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william-james88 wrote:We have newsed rumours before and can do so again. And since none of this is confirmed, it's all speculation anyway in some regard. No need for spoiler tags really, those would be more for a show or movie that just came out and we don't want to spoil something.
Could you reply to this with a breakdown of what we know from this credible source along with a link to where you found the info? It will then make it easier for me to assess if it's something we colud news as rumours or not.
Okay, I wasn't certain of the exact rules around this whole thing since I wasn't using the boards yet when the PotP leaks I mentioned happened, so thank you for clarifying that. As for a breakdown of the leaks, Autobot N beat me to that:
Autobot N wrote:You can news these Kingdom and SS 86 Target listings. The guy who found the listings says that Soundwave, Prowl, and one of the Starscreams are Cyberverse deluxes, not Kingdom or SS 86.
Also, here's a breakdown of the Kingdom leaks. This guy didn't actually post the leaks himself, he's just compiling what the leaker has said.

EDIT:...also wait, the full set of listings still includes a $5.99 pricepoint, so I guess even though Battlemasters are gone, something is taking their place. Interesting...
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I thought it was just the Micromasters that were disappearing?
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Sabrblade wrote:Still the Earthrise mold.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Trailer-less, that is.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Allegedly, the original leaker mentioned somewhere that the Voyager Optimus Prime and Starscream are just gonna be repacks on their Earthrise toys a la Siege Astrotrain, Rung, Smashdown, and the Battle Squad all getting repacked in Earthrise.
But an actual earthrise prime rerelease would be a leader no?
So its a rerelease of the Netflix release, not earthrise then.
So what, it's not a straight rerelease of Earthrise. So it's not the same as Siege's Astrotrain being rereleased in Earthrise. Come on y'all, we gotta be specific
Also thanks for the links everyone, I will assess everything when I have some more time, definitely some news worthy stuff here.
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ZeroWolf wrote:I thought it was just the Micromasters that were disappearing?
The leaker said that A. The Micromasters and Battlemasters are both out, and B. The Micromaster price point is being replaced by Core Class, but never said what Battlemasters are getting replaced with.
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Nemesis Primal wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I thought it was just the Micromasters that were disappearing?
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So Core class is basically what Legend Class was? Or will it be more like Legion ( a smaller toy, but $10 because price of toys keeps going up??)
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Scout class.o.supreme wrote:So Core class is basically what Legend Class was? Or will it be more like Legion ( a smaller toy, but $10 because price of toys keeps going up??)
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Sabrblade wrote:Scout class.
Ok makes sense, still...I can't believe we'll be paying $10 for something like that. Of course, I also thought Walgreens was a ripoff for charging $18 for TR Deluxe in 2016 as well


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o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Scout class.
Ok makes sense, still...I can't believe we'll be paying $10 for something like that. Of course, I also thought Walgreens was a ripoff for charging $18 for TR Deluxe in 2106 as well...
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hey, at least you got a time travel deal out of it.
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Bet they still won't have made Star Saber by thenSabrblade wrote:o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Scout class.
Ok makes sense, still...I can't believe we'll be paying $10 for something like that. Of course, I also thought Walgreens was a ripoff for charging $18 for TR Deluxe in 2106 as well...
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There are some new listings found by a Target employee. Most have to do with the Kingdom series, which is the third part of the Transformers War for Cybertron trilogy, and the one that will bring back Beast Wars. While some of these were leaked before, we now have actual listings from the Target database. Now, not all may be accurate. For instance, we have a voyager Prime which conflicts with the rumours of a voyager Primal coming out. Or maybe we will get both, who knows? Also, not shown below is a new rumour of Ultra Magnus. There is no listing or proof of this yet, but the rumour is that there will be a new Ultra Magnus coming, based of the Siege mold, with some remolding. The images of the Target listings are provided by Notomus who posted them on the TFW boards.
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Transformers Voyager Starscream
Transformers Voyager Scourge
Transformers Voyager Cyclonus
Transformers Voyager Optimus Prime
Transformers Voyager Inferno
Transformers Voyager Rhinox
Transformers Voyager Dinobot
Transformers Voyager Tigatron
Here are additonal listings that would most probably appear in Studio Series though it is unclear which is for the 86 movie line and which is for the Bayverse:
Transformes Hot Rod
Transformers Kup
Transformers Jazz
Transformers Astrotrain
Transformers Jolt
Transformers Dino
Transformers Sideswipe
Transformers Bumblebee
Transformers Grimlock
Finally, there was also a listing for a new Masterpiece Bumblebee, all that we have is the price point of $79.90.









Here are the listings thought to be for the Kingdom line:
Transformers Voyager Starscream
Transformers Voyager Scourge
Transformers Voyager Cyclonus
Transformers Voyager Optimus Prime
Transformers Voyager Inferno
Transformers Voyager Rhinox
Transformers Voyager Dinobot
Transformers Voyager Tigatron
Here are additonal listings that would most probably appear in Studio Series though it is unclear which is for the 86 movie line and which is for the Bayverse:
Transformes Hot Rod
Transformers Kup
Transformers Jazz
Transformers Astrotrain
Transformers Jolt
Transformers Dino
Transformers Sideswipe
Transformers Bumblebee
Transformers Grimlock
Finally, there was also a listing for a new Masterpiece Bumblebee, all that we have is the price point of $79.90.










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Another Optimus Prime and Starscream? The chances are They're gonna be Armada hopefully.

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These Beast Wars reveals sound pretty exciting that they make me feel a little bit better about the Ey-Tee Sicks guys getting involved with the Studio Series line since there's a little bit more variation with the plural nature of the word "Generations".
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voyager tigatron? now that's interesting. does that mean a voyager cheetor or will they downscale it? or maybe a new mold altogether for the smaller cat, assuming they do him.
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That is a ridiculous number of Voyagers, most of which don't lend themselves well to repaints/retools (aside from Prime, Inferno, and Starscream of course) it's hard to believe all of this is accurate, even if it is coming from store computers. I guess we can get a Sweep out of Scourge and maybe a Grimlock out of Dinobot, but what about Tigatron (prototype orange?), Rhinox (Fox Kids white?) and Cyclonus (lilac?). I guess they're just counting on assigning slight variations for Netflix variants.
What if it's actually a set with a Deluxe Tigatron and Core Airazor sold as a Voyager? It's not like the full name would necessarily be in the computer the price would be the same.
I thought it was said before that the whole point of Core Optimus Prime was to get an OP in this line, a Voyager OP totally debunks that explanation.
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What if it's actually a set with a Deluxe Tigatron and Core Airazor sold as a Voyager? It's not like the full name would necessarily be in the computer the price would be the same.
I thought it was said before that the whole point of Core Optimus Prime was to get an OP in this line, a Voyager OP totally debunks that explanation.
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I'm really curious about the Studio Series 86 Movie figures. Will they be new molds or repaints of older ones.
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Emerje wrote:That is a ridiculous number of Voyagers, most of which don't lend themselves well to repaints/retools (aside from Prime, Inferno, and Starscream of course) it's hard to believe all of this is accurate, even if it is coming from store computers. I guess we can get a Sweep out of Scourge and maybe a Grimlock out of Dinobot, but what about Tigatron (prototype orange?), Rhinox (Fox Kids white?) and Cyclonus (lilac?). I guess they're just counting on assigning slight variations for Netflix variants.
What if it's actually a set with a Deluxe Tigatron and Core Airazor sold as a Voyager? It's not like the full name would necessarily be in the computer the price would be the same.
I thought it was said before that the whole point of Core Optimus Prime was to get an OP in this line, a Voyager OP totally debunks that explanation.
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Unless the voyager op is for the Netflix line...again
Or as the leaker suggested, is someone mixing up Prime and Primal. It wouldn't surprise me of a lot of those Voyagers end up being for adjacent lines. Will be better when we see more pics of the toys. Though I'm guessing Cyclonus is the first Kingdom toy we've seen then

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Scourge and Cyclonus could still be Studio Series.
As stated before, the original leaker stated somewhere that Voyager Optimus and Starscream might just be unchanged repacks of their Earthrise molds (sans Prime's trailer to sell him at the Voyager pricepoint) like how Siege Astrotrain, Rung, Smashdown, and the Battle Squad were all repacked for Earthrise.
And the latest rumors mentioned that the Core class Optimus might not be G1 Prime.
As stated before, the original leaker stated somewhere that Voyager Optimus and Starscream might just be unchanged repacks of their Earthrise molds (sans Prime's trailer to sell him at the Voyager pricepoint) like how Siege Astrotrain, Rung, Smashdown, and the Battle Squad were all repacked for Earthrise.
And the latest rumors mentioned that the Core class Optimus might not be G1 Prime.
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Scourge is definitely Studio Series. The guy who leaked all the Target listings specifically said that Cyclonus is Kingdom, since his DPCI (is that what it is?) matched up with the other Kingdom voyagers.Sabrblade wrote:Scourge and Cyclonus could still be Studio Series.
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Autobot N wrote:Scourge is definitely Studio Series. The guy who leaked all the Target listings specifically said that Cyclonus is Kingdom, since his DPCI (is that what it is?) matched up with the other Kingdom voyagers.Sabrblade wrote:Scourge and Cyclonus could still be Studio Series.
Indeed, Hasbro have three lines to play with next year gettihg these out: Kingdom, Netflix and Studio Series 86
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Hopefully this Cyclonus will pair up well with the Titans Return Scourge.
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