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I feel like I'm back in 2007 all over again when all this was first found out in the west and everyone was like "HUH?!!"
It also didn't help that the Western fandom at large back then also kept insisting that Car Robots was as much of a continuity reboot unconnected to anything that came before it like the English RID 2001 version was, when a vast majority of Western fans had never even seen Car Robots in full and were mainly going by the aforementioned English dubbed version.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I feel like I'm back in 2007 all over again when all this was first found out in the west and everyone was like "HUH?!!"
That's what I get for not haunting this section of the forums, lol! I knew, vaguely, that they made Car Robots connect. But they way they went about it is ... terrible ...
I feel like they may have learned the wrong lessons from western comics. All the spackle and staples they've used to graft different media together make things even more dense and incomprehensible than before!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Granted, like I said, the majority of western fans never actually watched Car Robots at the time since it wasn't fully available in subtitled form back then (the complete fansubs didn't get made until 2014).Gauntlet101010 wrote:I can understand why the western fandom rejected the tenuous connections such as they are. If the official dub omitted them and since the show does introduce continuity problems other media had to tidy up ... yeah. I can see why. We didn't even get to have "head on" so of course we wouldn't pick up on that. In addition it didn't have to be a direct tie in - it could just be a reference. A nod.
Yeah, there could have been more done with it in further animation. But Car Robots apparently flopped in Japan. RID was a smash success in the west, but CR basically put Transformers animation into a coma over in Japan. From 2000 to 2003, there was no Transformers cartoon airing on TV in Japan. Car Robots ended at the end of 2000, while Armada (or "Legends of the Microns") didn't begin airing in Japan until early 2003. Transformers was essentially dead during that interim, getting by only on some smaller lines of mostly G1 reissues before Armada revitalized it three years later.Gauntlet101010 wrote:It is what it is, but that doesn't mean I think it was a good idea for them to follow through on tying it all in It seems to have only complicated things and added nothing. And a team of time police is actually a pretty cool concept. They just left it lying on the ground.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
GFC's hand has a 5mm hole in its palm that the Devilhand is attached to by a 5mm peg.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hm, you know that pick does show a missed opportunity in that it would have been neat if the hand could link up well. In the pics it looks like it just sort of leans against FC's hand. f they had made the hand removable and added a peg to Gigahand it woulda been a feature. Then they could have some mega bad guy in the show for at least one episode.
Beast Wars Metals flopped over there, too. Yep, what was considered the high point of Beast Wars over here (its second and third seasons) completely tanked in Japan, because Japan didn't give a rat's head about the Transmetals. Only season 1 of Beast Wars was successful, while Second and Neo kept the steam going long enough for seasons 2-3 to get dubbed as Metals, but Metals tanked when it finally got to Japan. Car Robots came about in response to Metals's failure, with Takara hoping to revitalize the brand by bringing back realistic Earth vehicles with Beast Era-level articulation engineering (and just in time for the brand's 15th anniversary in Japan, too). Alas, Car Robots was just as much of a flop, too.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Car Robots flopped in Japan? I guess that explains why there've been no references to it at all, ever. I had thought it was just majorly overshadowed by two much greater eras before and after. It must be some kind of miracle that we got the Haslab. It can't be as poorly regarded over there as Beast Machines is over here, though.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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