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by **Barak** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:57 pm

The Warhammer 40K Universe vs the Star Wars Universe vs the Star Trek Universe.
Who would win?

I say that the WH40K would defeat both the SW universe and the ST universe combined.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:15 pm

Q Continuum wipes out both Warhammer 40K universe and Star Wars universe. And this is coming from someone who prefers Star Wars over Star Trek.

by **Barak** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:57 pm

They can't beat the Orkz, or the Chaos Gods, or the C'tan.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:29 pm

Blackstrike wrote:They can't beat the Orkz, or the Chaos Gods, or the C'tan.

Yes they can. Q can rewrite the universe at will, they can write out anyone they didn't like. And the only thing that can kill them is themselves.

by **Barak** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:41 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Blackstrike wrote:They can't beat the Orkz, or the Chaos Gods, or the C'tan.

Yes they can. Q can rewrite the universe at will, they can write out anyone they didn't like. And the only thing that can kill them is themselves.

Chaos Gods are inmortal, C'tan can only be killed by one of them and the Orkz can make things go fater just by paiting it red.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:47 pm

Blackstrike wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Blackstrike wrote:They can't beat the Orkz, or the Chaos Gods, or the C'tan.

Yes they can. Q can rewrite the universe at will, they can write out anyone they didn't like. And the only thing that can kill them is themselves.

Chaos Gods are inmortal, C'tan can only be killed by one of them and the Orkz can make things go fater just by paiting it red.

So, it's a standstill. Two sides have forces that can't be beaten. Though unless I'm missing something, I really doubt orks are Gods or godlike in anyway.

by **Barak** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:52 pm

Yeah, Orkz aren't godlike. Just mentioned them because I'm a big fan of them xD.

But, if we don't count anything godlike, WH40K wins. If we do, no matter how wins between WH40K or ST, SW loses.

by **Barak** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:17 pm

I thought this would be a much bigger debate, instead of just two people............

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:26 pm

Blackstrike wrote:But, if we don't count anything godlike, WH40K wins. If we do, no matter how wins between WH40K or ST, SW loses.

Well, it all depends on the Era of Star Wars. Clone Wars era Star Wars would probably fare better than Star Trek, what with heavy numbers of Jedi in the front line. Galactic Civil War Era would probably get its teeth kicked in, though, what with the Empire's preference for intimidation and shock-and-awe rather than effective military strategy.

Not to mention Star Wars ships have better FTL capabilities than Star Trek. It took Voyager 7 years to cross 70,000 light years, which was supposed to take, what, 75 years? Ships in Star Wars could get from the Galactic Core to the Galactic Rim and back in one a day.

by **Barak** » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:39 am

Shadowman wrote:
Blackstrike wrote:But, if we don't count anything godlike, WH40K wins. If we do, no matter how wins between WH40K or ST, SW loses.

Well, it all depends on the Era of Star Wars. Clone Wars era Star Wars would probably fare better than Star Trek, what with heavy numbers of Jedi in the front line. Galactic Civil War Era would probably get its teeth kicked in, though, what with the Empire's preference for intimidation and shock-and-awe rather than effective military strategy.

Not to mention Star Wars ships have better FTL capabilities than Star Trek. It took Voyager 7 years to cross 70,000 light years, which was supposed to take, what, 75 years? Ships in Star Wars could get from the Galactic Core to the Galactic Rim and back in one a day.

Also, we're forgeting about the celstials and centerpoint station.
Celestials:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Celestials
Centerpoint Station:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Centerpoint_Station

News Credits: 1 · by **Jesterhead** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:02 am

let's not forget that during the Great Crusades, all legions of the Space Marines conquered the entire galaxy in about 100 years...

That pretty impressive.

And in the WH40K Universe, there are easily half-a-dozen races which are almost that powerful.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:23 am

Jesterhead wrote:let's not forget that during the Great Crusades, all legions of the Space Marines conquered the entire galaxy in about 100 years...

The Mandalorians would have done that in half the time, but then Revan stepped up to the plate.

by **Barak** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:01 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Jesterhead wrote:let's not forget that during the Great Crusades, all legions of the Space Marines conquered the entire galaxy in about 100 years...

The Mandalorians would have done that in half the time, but then Revan stepped up to the plate.

Yeah, but there was more resistence agaisnt the Space Marine than agaisnt the Mandalorians.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:49 pm

Blackstrike wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Jesterhead wrote:let's not forget that during the Great Crusades, all legions of the Space Marines conquered the entire galaxy in about 100 years...

The Mandalorians would have done that in half the time, but then Revan stepped up to the plate.

Yeah, but there was more resistence agaisnt the Space Marine than agaisnt the Mandalorians.

The Mandalorians were up against the entirety of the Republic's forces, as well as half the Jedi Order. That's billions of soldiers, millions of ships, and a few dozen Jedi.

by **Barak** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:31 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Blackstrike wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Jesterhead wrote:let's not forget that during the Great Crusades, all legions of the Space Marines conquered the entire galaxy in about 100 years...

The Mandalorians would have done that in half the time, but then Revan stepped up to the plate.

Yeah, but there was more resistence agaisnt the Space Marine than agaisnt the Mandalorians.

The Mandalorians were up against the entirety of the Republic's forces, as well as half the Jedi Order. That's billions of soldiers, millions of ships, and a few dozen Jedi.

That's a slow traffic accident in the WH40K universe.

News Credits: 1 · by **Jesterhead** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:46 pm

I'm sure it was common to find a single planet during the Crusades which were infested by more than one billion Orkz, and a single Ork is a hell of a lot tougher than a man.

The Great Crusade wasn't fought against a single enemy. It was humanity vs. anything they encountered. Any pockets of human civilization were offered to follow the Imperial Truth or be destroyed. The Space Marines would visit every habitable planet, destroy all resistance or hostile locals, leave behind a large army of regular Imperial soldiers, and then move on.

The Eldar race also fought for, and conquered the galaxy long before humans existed. Though, they lack the power to do it again.

by **Barak** » Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:02 pm

Jesterhead wrote:I'm sure it was common to find a single planet during the Crusades which were infested by more than one billion Orkz, and a single Ork is a hell of a lot tougher than a man.

The Great Crusades wasn't fought against a single enemy. It was humanity vs. anything they encountered. Any pockets of human civilization were offered to follow the Imperial Truth or be destroyed. The Space Marines would visit every habitable planet, destroy all resistance or hostile locals, leave behind a large army of regular Imperial soldiers, and then move on.

The Eldar race also fought for, and conquered the galaxy long before humans existed. Though, they lack the power to do it again.

Exactly. The Mandos are nothing compared to the Space Marines, Chaos or Tyranids. The whole SW universe is nothing compared to the ORKZ!! WAAAAAAAGH!!!

by **shortwave** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:01 am

lm noticing a bit of nepotisem here

by **snavej** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:34 pm

We're talking about three entire universes fighting each other, not three franchises. We hardly know these universes. What are they like? What are they made of? Is there matter, antimatter or something else? How much life is there? The questions are endless. I can't predict the outcome. I can say that the battle might take several billion years to finish.