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Postby The Chaos Bringer » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:43 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
Dr. Z wrote:
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Dr. Z wrote:I've seen far worse Transformers.


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Try harder, because mine never had any problem.


Try harder?


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Postby thedistinctroom » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:30 pm

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throttlebots, gobots rock lords are pretty lame, but those arn't TF's.
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Postby No Death for Prowl » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:50 pm

*sigh*

And I had(still have, in fact) all 6 Throttlebots. Along with most of the Micromasters(who weren't bad, just a little dull after awhile). No wonder I felt so deprived as a child.

At least I had Fortress Maximus to balance things out, though. :grin:

Bad Transformer ideas? Well, Pretenders take a lot of heat, though they were still fun in their own way. But how were the shells any sort of "disguise"? 15 foot tall human shells don't exactly fit into typical human society, even if any given society was composed solely of Manute Bols. And the Decepticon "monster" shells? Not exactly subtle....

The one Pretender that makes me laugh is Gunrunner. He was a robot that had an outer shell of a car. A robot that changes into a vehicle that needs another vehicle to get around? Now that's one lazy Transformer! You could lay down Gunrunner inside the car or place him so that he looks like he was driving it, too. A robot driving a giant futuristic car? Again, the whole disguise motiff seems to have gone out the window....
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Postby Dr. Z » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:07 pm

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Whoah Nelly. What is that? :)
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Postby Nujevad » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:20 pm

The frickin' Nike Shoeformers.
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Postby Philthy » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:26 pm

Masterpiece Magnus

Magnus being just a white Optimus repaint.

Starscream's new chin

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Postby I_AM... MEGATRON! » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:54 am

Tie between Star wars transformers having human villians (TF Animated)
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Postby AlienQuiksilver » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:24 am

Counterpunch wrote:I'm beginning to think that you're only a doctor in the way that "Dr." Dre is a doctor.


I'm beginning to think that I eventually won't have enough sig space with CP posting in here. C'mon dude ... I was thinking about putting a picture down there!

In no way is that insulting Dr. Z, unless you truly are a Doctor ... CP can be nothing but correct. The fact that you are insulted doesn't make much sense to me.

One can't just say "Try harder." Even Yoda wouldn't retain respect from his peers by saying something like that.

Let us all take advice from that little fella ...

"Do or do not ... there is no try."
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Postby fanboy999 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:12 am

Nekoman wrote:
cellshock wrote:In my personal opinion (and no offence intended to those who disagree):

- Anything painted black and called "Nemesis" something, especially Prime

- Anything made in clear plastic and dubbed "Ghost of..."

- Ultra Magnus being downgraded to just an albino version of Prime

- Beast Wars

- Head/Target/Powermasters

- Soundblaster

- Blaster :)

- Arcee, Elita-1 and every other female Transformer

- Classics Devastator

- BotCon 2007 "Classics" Huffer & Springer

- 2007 Movie Megatron

- Sky Lynx

- Primus and/or the entire notion of Cybertron actually being a giant robot instead of just a planet

- Galvatron being the reincarnation of Megatron - always wished he was just a separate character altogether... along with Cyclonus & the Sweeps not being reformatted versions of dead Cons either

- The idea that any combinber, especially Predaking, would somehow be bigger than Devastator

- The Stunticons, The Terrorcons, The Seacons

- The fact that Blast-Off from The Combaticons is some sort of "battle" space shuttle while the other members are normal military vehicles

- Pretenders

- Mass shifting

- Broadside & Octane triple-changers

- The new Animated line

Just off the top of my head :)


You just named off most of the transformers history, do you even like transformers?

This entire thread just makes me mad, if you think transformers are stupid then why do you go to a transformers forum?


I actually agree with this list, for the most part. I do think that one can be a transformers fan and still be critical of some of the toys that have been utilized in the 20 year old history of Transformers. After all, twenty years is a long time to go without making any mistakes.

I, myself, do find a lot of the lines to be unappealing to my personal taste, but realize that they have a certain appeal to others. One man's trash is another man's treasure or something like that.
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Postby Tetsu Aero » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:48 am

Hm it's gotta be any animal Transformer with Wheels, yesh i'm looking at you Rattrap.

And the Transmetals, the designer should clearly have been fired.
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Postby Rushie » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:10 pm

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Dr. Z wrote:Whoah Nelly. What is that? :)


That's G2 Bulletbike
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Postby woosh » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:42 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:Ultimate Bumblebee

i must agree. this thing is WAY OVERSIZED (he's mudafukn huge!), too heavy, and his transformation is less complicated than masterpiece megatron (even tho masterpiece megatron is still cheaper, isn't it?). and it has these sound and light features, wich don't make sense because toys are about imagination.

Animal forms. wtf?! animal toys look gay. vechicles don't. vechicles look awesome.
except bulletbike, he really does look bad. and his transformation and articulation are even worse that Legends Ratchet's.!

The faces of movie toys.

Any movie megatron. Couldn't the designers of the character see that there's no way to make a transformer that is accurate to their design? (well, LEGENDS megatron is an exception (LOL!))

Star wars transformers. Way too simple transformations for their size. and HAN SOLO looks ridiculous as a robohuman.

Any scout line. Ridiculous.

Classics Prime not looking like the g1. When someone says "optimus prime", everyone imagines the G1 Optimus.

CG in transformers. this 3d looks terrible.

cyber slammers.

all the non-transforming transformers. arent TRANSFORMers meant to TRANSFORM?

Movie scorponok.
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Postby City Commander » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:51 pm

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Counterpunch wrote:I'm beginning to think that you're only a doctor in the way that "Dr." Dre is a doctor.


You really got a problem, don't you? I think I need to refresh your memory :

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1. No flaming, trolling, harassing, or baiting other guests.
Flaming should be self evident, trolling means to make posts or threads for the intended purpose of starting an argument, while baiting is any post intended to make another user resort to flaming. Harassment means following a user or group of users around through multiple threads to flame them, bait them, or otherwise cause them to want to avoid the boards because of a user's actions towards them. If there is a discussion and there ends up some sort of disagreement on someones personal opinion, simply try and respect each others opinions without forcing them on others.


Somehow Counterpunch, this is pretty much what you're doing DAILY. So now, what are you gonna do about it?



That hardly counts as flaming, harassing, trolling, or baiting.



And you aren't a real doctor, are you?
Even if you are a real doctor, this is the internet. Since when do you take anything anyone says (let alone CP :P) seriously?



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Postby Rochade » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:27 pm

I'm a relatively new fan and when I heard Megatron was a pistol in G1 I just thought: "What a stupid idea. This must have sucked".

On a similar vein: Alt modes without mobility. They did a good job with Frenzy though.
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Postby The Chaos Bringer » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:20 pm

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Whoah Nelly. What is that? :)


I assume that means even you can't find a redeeming factor about it. I guess Bulletbike is truly the worst. I mean, it has to be. Not just anything can beat out Armada Sideswipe for the title of worst TF ever.
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Postby Jaw Crusher » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:24 pm

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The kinds of Transformers I don't care for anymore are as follows, and some of these do go against the grain, so you've been warned:

* Dinosaur alt-modes in the present day. Seriously, the Dinobots were a great idea on paper, they make for awesome toys, and it made for an awesome visual element in the original cartoon and comic, but it's a total slap in the face of the whole "robots in disguise" premise. It's only good if they're going into heavily-populated hot zones to scare off the locals and thus minimize civilian casualties, but in most cases the Dinobots don't care all that much about humans to begin with.

* Now that I've probably already ticked off most of the G1 groupies, I may as well go the full nine and admit that I'm not a big fan of die-cast TFs anymore, either. The paint chips like a runaway Frito-Lay truck. The limbs almost always wear quickly, 'specially if they're half metal and half plastic. I was ecstatic when I learned that Hasbro was finally going to produce transforming War Within toys...I was not so ecstatic when I picked them up for the first time, though.

* TFs with immobile alt-modes. They're no fun anymore, IMO. It was great back in 1984 when you had a robot that could turn into a handgun or a tape deck, but now you can't have them look realistic as guns, nor do you see a lot of people roaming around with old-school boom-boxes anymore. So again, the "robots in disguise" thing comes into question here.

* Any sort of TF that requires a 'plug-in' gimmick - i.e. binary-bond partners, Minicons, Cyber Planet Keys, etc. Because what happens when you lose the Cyber Key or the Minicon? I remember being a kid and almost having a heart attack when I lost Hi-Q, 'cuz having to press in that little white notch to transform Powermaster Optimus every time was a pain.

* Transformers that don't transform. This is self-explanatory.

* White (Magnus) and black (Nemesis) Optimus repaints. This is old now.

* Half the Alternators. Never mind that some of them had almost NO leg articulation. Grimlock deserved something so much more bad@$$ than a car alt-mode. They waited until the line was on its deathbed to create a semi-faithful Alternator version of Ravage. Decepticharge just has the worst name of any of them. And with Anniversary Optimus being released, I don't understand why Hasbro had to push so hard to have the one pickup in the whole line be another Optimus, when it could have so easily been somebody else.

* Half the Beast Machines toys. I didn't mind the show, myself, but a lot of the toy line just seemed really weak. There were very few large figures; none of the Maximals were remotely made to be in scale with each other, and given that the only semi-show-accurate figures showed up at the end of the line, and then the Vehicon drones got more love than their generals (Although I think Tankor is still a pretty cool figure). We didn't even get a decent-looking Primal figure again until the very next line...WTF???

* All the RID repaints except for Ruination, who I thought looked even better than Bruticus (or the show version of Ruination, for that matter - yellow! GAH!).

* Sunstorm. Never cared for him. In ANY incarnation.

* "Cybertron" Tank Unicron. Why? Even the TFCC comic didn't really take advantage of this enough to make it justifiable, IMO.

At this point, I also may as well come right out and say that I like female robots and metal beards. I never was a conformist. ;)^
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:29 pm

Planet Keys! Not so much on the toys, but the whole show execution :???:

Unicron's organic center needing minicons to wake him up?

Oh, and 99% of the Pretender shells
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:32 pm

Rochade wrote:I'm a relatively new fan and when I heard Megatron was a pistol in G1 I just thought: "What a stupid idea. This must have sucked".

On a similar vein: Alt modes without mobility. They did a good job with Frenzy though.


I know your new, but man, don't knock it till ya try it!
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Postby woosh » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:42 pm

Liege Evilmus wrote:Planet Keys! Not so much on the toys, but the whole show execution :???:

Unicron's organic center needing minicons to wake him up?

Oh, and 99% of the Pretender shells

omg, pretenders ale suckage too. who the hel would like to have a figure that contains a robot inside? :O
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Postby zodconvoy » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:01 pm

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You want to know what burns me? The hate.

There is at least one redeeming quality to everything Transformers has put out. Even Wheelie, Pretenders, Actionmasters. Even G2 Bulletbike. Do things suck? Most definitely. Like Seekers never coming in three's anymore. Either Cracker or Warp gets the shaft.

Lines petering out when they finally get good? Titaniums and Alternators, you will be missed.

Classics Minicons? Not one Classics toy is Mini-compatible :BOOM: !

All the characters introducted in the Movie '86 sucked after the movie. Here are the awesome new Bots and Cons of the future! And here they are watered down so much they're transparent.

What really sucks? Transformers is at it core a huge toy commercial. Why are there characters who never got toys? Devcon, G1 Arcee, Alicons, I had to pay $60 for a Beast Wars X-9 Ravage from Japan. That doesn't make sense.

One last thing, "triple changers" that only ever use one of their altmodes. I'm looking at you, Springer!

Oh, and the sole redeeming quality to Bulletbike? Your collection will never be complete without him. :HEADHURTS:
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Postby Unicron Singularity » Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:17 pm

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Well... Botanica from BM. WHY DIDN'T they make a weedformer, instead of Botanica. A stoner plant transformer in BM would totally jazz that show up ^^ =D

anyways... over to the serious part (dons a serious mask)

Actionmasters
Pretenders
G2 ("cartoon" ofc, the G2 comics rock.)
not making toys of Devcon and Arcee.
Cybertron Unicron (because he puts the original Unicron to shame, and being a major shelfwarming piece of plastic poo here)
SWTF. Seriously keep Star Wars and Transformers seperate. For god's sake. Separate.
Transmetals
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overusage of the term "Nemesis" especially when about Optimus. Same deal with the white UM. Keep UM in his powered armor (or just g1 look-ish)
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Postby MegaDave » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:10 pm

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Classics Minicons? Not one Classics toy is Mini-compatible :BOOM: !
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Bumblebee and megatron are!

perhaps not intentionally

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Postby Dr. Z » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:14 pm

The Chaos Bringer wrote:
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Whoah Nelly. What is that? :)


I assume that means even you can't find a redeeming factor about it. I guess Bulletbike is truly the worst. I mean, it has to be. Not just anything can beat out Armada Sideswipe for the title of worst TF ever.


It really looks like something you'd find at the Dollar Store. I'm amazed it got released as a real Transformer...
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Postby Dr. Z » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:17 pm

The Master Blaster wrote: Since when do you take anything anyone says (let alone CP :P) seriously?


If any regular board member was to act like CP, he would be banned in no time. Honestly.
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Postby woosh » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:14 am

Oh, i found another one. On my second place, after bulletbike, i think.
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