The Energon Pub

News Credits: 23 · by **1337W422102** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:49 pm

Railguard wrote:I want pictures of wheeljack!!! I could not get any off that website just comments!!! Someone help!!! Is this the classics line or not!!!

Calm down, kid. You want pictures of Wheeljack? Here you go! Be advised that this is a REAL G1 figure, not a KO (which stands for 'Knock Off,' meaning 'fake').
Of course you couldn't get more pictures if they haven't been posted. As for only finding comments? What do you honestly expect from a message board?
No, this is NOT Classics. It is a Knock Off.
And exclamation marks and acting as if your questions are uber important doesn't make you cool.

News Credits: 1 · by **tech348** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:58 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:grrr. i agree with the sentament. wheeljack and mirage were supposed to be 2 molds damaged beyond repair, and here is a nice looking ko of it.

DAMN!!!

I have a feeling that "damaged beyond repair" actually means "we lost those molds at a factory that we did business with" or "we lost those molds when a factory was sold or went out of business".

Supposedly there was a major factory that was recently purchased in Asia (Macau?) that had a lot of these molds, including the sticker sheets for a lot of the figures which is where eBay has recently become flooded with high quality stickers of old school figures ... which has made me a very happy camper so that I can replace stickers on my figures that are pretty much the same quality as they were back in the 80s instead of using reproduction stickers.

How and where do they make it? I am not sure.
But I was told, one Krean toy company bought a old factory in Macau and find some old mould which used to make transformers 20 years ago.
Then they started to make the reissue like Swoops and Ratbat. I think all the stickers is also from there.

This is what's getting me aggrevated. Takara should of known better. These molds if in fact are to be legit is what made Takara money. For someone to just abandon them at a factory is just plain unexcusable. I bet Takara's just kicking themselves now, knowing that if these knockoffs sell good it could could of helped them on the profit margin.

News Credits: 1 · by **jgilkinson** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:08 am

Railguard wrote:I want pictures of wheeljack!!! I could not get any off that website just comments!!! Someone help!!! Is this the classics line or not!!!

Calm down big guy, thats no way to make friends. Chill with the exclamation points, big no no unless really needed.

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:39 am

from the looks of that pic, they've taken whats remaining of rhe mold and filled in whats left with current parts...those are Hoist/Trailbreaker's fins on there, not wheeljack's originals.

News Credits: 2 · by **Patrick Bateman** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:35 am

Hmm, a preview to a Trailbreaker KO, then?

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:37 am

Hasbro or Takara could do it by reverse molding Hoist, since they share similar molds

by **Optimushide2005** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:13 am

Damn I want to buy him! Ohh yah Hi I'm new

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:16 am

warning...seiberton contains nuts!

well...thats all over and done with...i want hum too

by **Optimushide2005** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:20 am

Thanks for the heads-up

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:50 am

we givr that message to everyone who's new

by **Rainbow Starscream** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:54 am

Eh, I'll stick to buying the real Wheeljack when I have the cash to blow. I don't like buying KO's. (except Cyclonus KO's but that's a different story.)

News Credits: 2 · by **Basketball Jones** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:05 am

I'm fairly certain they have the Trailbreaker mold, but the name is copyrighted by another company and marketing studies haven't shown a great deal of demand for the character.

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:19 am

i thought it might be a naming problem

News Credits: 2 · by **Patrick Bateman** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:21 am

I don´t think a company that makes KOs would care about naming rights.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:29 am

To dispel some rumors... at BotCon Hasbro/Takara said they could create a new not-quite-as-good mold from a toy. They did for reissue Soundwave (the regular chest version). Problem has been the molds wear down and actually crack or break, or are lost in warehouses (they're manufactured in a number of out-of-the-country factories not owned by HasTak). They said this was the case with Sunstreaker, Mirage, etc. So I'd wager these new KO's are created from a toy and are slightly less quality.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:30 am

(ie. Sunstreaker/Mirage cracked mold.)

by **Vile MK III** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:33 am

GetterDragun wrote:Say goodbye to a real reissue now.

byebye ;-; :sad:

And I was hopeing that Tomy Takara would do an anime accurate face.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:12 am

I think anyone that buys one of these for $150 when an original is available for less money, is a 'tard.

News Credits: 6 · by **City Commander** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:38 am

I agree with that one CP.
Nice, but I want an original, or a reissue from HasTakOmy.

Bah. Just give us a Classics rendition then. If you're gonna recreate a mould for a classics character, you might as well make it look new and snazzy and add some more articulation. Then slap 'Classics' on the front of it.

News Credits: 3599 · by **Seibertron** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:08 pm

Lord Crump wrote:I agree with that one CP.
Nice, but I want an original, or a reissue from HasTakOmy.

Bah. Just give us a Classics rendition then. If you're gonna recreate a mould for a classics character, you might as well make it look new and snazzy and add some more articulation. Then slap 'Classics' on the front of it.

In my opinion, Hasbro should re-release some of the existing "homages" under the Classics banner. Like so ...

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=62

News Credits: 1 · by **Brakethrough** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:11 pm

I wish they'd give him knees though.

News Credits: 23 · by **1337W422102** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:12 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Lord Crump wrote:I agree with that one CP.
Nice, but I want an original, or a reissue from HasTakOmy.

Bah. Just give us a Classics rendition then. If you're gonna recreate a mould for a classics character, you might as well make it look new and snazzy and add some more articulation. Then slap 'Classics' on the front of it.

In my opinion, Hasbro should re-release some of the existing "homages" under the Classics banner. Like so ...

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize ... 1&image=62

Energon Wheeljack needs to be repainted to really be Wheeljack. And he seriously needs better articulation.