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prowl123 wrote:Leadfoot and Wheeljack look like 10 pounds of shat in a 5 pound bag.

Rahahahaha.

sentinelprime1234 wrote:why is everyone complaining? your all stupid, this isn't G1, and your acting like it's the first time we saw Wheeljack, we have been seeing that head for months, I love it, and come on, G1 had beards that could move like hair

Right.

I don't know why everyone has to complain about anything. If I don't like something, I just accept it and go on, but others seem to think that it's the end of the world. So Optimus has blue flames, Soundwave doesn't sound monotonely computerly like in G1 so Mirage is red instead of blue, but so what? It's the differences between the series that make them so special. If a minor character is an Autobot in one series and a decepticon in another, then it makes both versions of the character special. If all the Transformers series were like the G1, then what would be the point of different series. The characters being exactly the same, only stories changing.

The Transformers don't just transform physically from machines to robots and back, they transform from character to character. That's what they do. They transform.

Stockade wrote:I think Bay needs to watch or re-watch ALL the G1 series from 84 on up! including the Transformer The movie from 86. Hell, even watch all the Japanese series as well, even though the voice overs are terrible but we get the idea.

This isn't G1, damnit! Bay can do whatever the hell he wants!

i kinda like them keep in mind that its a different universe, they dont have to pay homages to G1. i like that wheeljack looks Einstein ^_^

I don't think it's about G1 anymore. These characters have survived through nearly every iteration of Transformers... RID, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Alternators, Prime... in the same colors, personalities and head sculpts. It's not just about respecting G1, but about paying attention to 20 some odd years of history and character development and personalities.

Of course, it's a new movie and Bay can do what he wants... but I'm going to shrug it off like it's another "War of the Worlds". The movie bots more in common with the Alien, Bionicle, Predator, Matrix, than the last 20 years of Transformers history and characters. It will still be a fun movie, but there's not a lot of respect for the past.

Anyone remember that line of toys that looked like transparent dinosaur bones that transformed? That's what Shockwave looks like to me.

there are respects given, just not enough. he takes too many liberties with it.

Doubledealer25 wrote:there are respects given, just not enough. he takes too many liberties with it.

No one wants the same crap for 20 years.

Doubledealer25 wrote:i kinda like them keep in mind that its a different universe, they dont have to pay homages to G1. i like that wheeljack looks Einstein ^_^

Brilliant comment..Pure brilliance!

Im really tired of people who say that certain figures have to be a certain way or it's crap. Get a grip guys and gals, things change over time. Certain folks act like if it isn't a direct representation to G1 that it's an act of lunacy against the trasnformers gods. For those I refer you to the above quoted post....

SlyTF1 wrote:

Doubledealer25 wrote:there are respects given, just not enough. he takes too many liberties with it.

No one wants the same crap for 20 years.

Yeah, it's a good point. I'd love to see the characters EVOLVE... just like Prime has in the movies. But I like that he's still RECOGNIZABLE.

Red 50 wrote:

sentinelprime1234 wrote:why is everyone complaining? your all stupid, this isn't G1, and your acting like it's the first time we saw Wheeljack, we have been seeing that head for months, I love it, and come on, G1 had beards that could move like hair

Right.

I don't know why everyone has to complain about anything. If I don't like something, I just accept it and go on, but others seem to think that it's the end of the world. So Optimus has blue flames, Soundwave doesn't sound monotonely computerly like in G1 so Mirage is red instead of blue, but so what? It's the differences between the series that make them so special. If a minor character is an Autobot in one series and a decepticon in another, then it makes both versions of the character special. If all the Transformers series were like the G1, then what would be the point of different series. The characters being exactly the same, only stories changing.

The Transformers don't just transform physically from machines to robots and back, they transform from character to character. That's what they do. They transform.

Here, here! Like I tried to say on my previous post; this isn't G1! I prefer the Bayverse to be honest, but that's only because I really got into Transformers because of the films (but as a kid I liked Beast Wars...Go figure! Eh, watcha gon' do...)

Anyway yes...Can't wait for July!

Well, threads like this are for everyone to give their reaction. What's important is that we shouldn't attack each other. I think it's interesting reading other people's perspective... ESPECIALLY when they're different.

I'm not gonna hate on 'em because we think differently... or came on board at different times. And I think the time you came on board will always be your "first love" — be it G1 or the Bayverse.

gothsaurus wrote:Well, threads like this are for everyone to give their reaction. What's important is that we shouldn't attack each other. I think it's interesting reading other people's perspective... ESPECIALLY when they're different.

I'm not gonna hate on 'em because we think differently... or came on board at different times. And I think the time you came on board will always be your "first love" — be it G1 or the Bayverse.

Exactly; but unfortunately I get the impression that some don't respect others likes/dislikes...

I can perfectly understand why some like G1 (for instance), just like I like the Bayverse. Like you say; we love what we grew up with. ^_^

Swiftknife24 wrote:we love what we grew up with. ^_^

I knew there was a nice, clear way to say that. You nailed it. Thanks!

Hehe, Prime's Wheeljack looks like the original but doesn't act anything like him, while Movie Wheeljack looks nothing like the original but does act like him.

Also, evidently humans can climb large robots now thanks to Wheeljack's inventions. Curious to see if they'll backfire. Wouldn't be surprised if they don't; that kind of thing works in cartoons but not so much live-action movies.

gothsaurus wrote:

Swiftknife24 wrote:we love what we grew up with. ^_^

I knew there was a nice, clear way to say that. You nailed it. Thanks!

You're welcome! I do try niceness; extraordinarily, it can work! Haha

LiKwid wrote:

Doubledealer25 wrote:i kinda like them keep in mind that its a different universe, they dont have to pay homages to G1. i like that wheeljack looks Einstein ^_^

Brilliant comment..Pure brilliance!

Im really tired of people who say that certain figures have to be a certain way or it's crap. Get a grip guys and gals, things change over time. Certain folks act like if it isn't a direct representation to G1 that it's an act of lunacy against the trasnformers gods. For those I refer you to the above quoted post....

100% **** Brilliant comment

I think i'll carefully explain why the movie designs for wheeljack are crap, or atleast why others and I think so.

Hair on Robots in my book isn't the biggest deal in the world (of Transformers), since they're there for any number of robotic reasons like sensors, or part of their sparks design... etc etc, either way, hair is fine, since I like the variety it adds....BUT
when the hair is put on a beloved oldschool character, it needs to be done in respect to the character, in this case, wheeljack.....
Making him obviously and blatantly look like a HUMAN from earth history that is so widely known to be a genuis scientist is just BS HALF A$$ED GARBAGE. Thats the most childish approach, its basically saying, Wheeljack has no character of his own... just think of him as the einstein of the group.. lets just make him look like a stereotypical crazed scientist who EVERYONE and their granny will recognize, that way we won't need to elaborate on him much with dialogue or any creative writing. In that regard, wheeljack is a FAIL from the Bayverse, among many other botched characters and their visual appearance.

Leadfoot looks stupid... a Nascar bot, who would on his own world be a fast bot wouldn't have such a pudgy design... it doesn't make sense... and is another clear attempt to simply associate the bots with human characteristics visually to eleviate any lack of creative writing.

Take Transformers: Prime's Wheeljack exactly how he looks from the show and plop him into the movie... done. Its not that hard. morons in the movie biz...
Look I found a pic of Snakeeyes....
Its from a different continuity, so... its not bad, right?..right?

MINDVVIPE wrote:I think i'll carefully explain why the movie designs for wheeljack are crap, or atleast why others and I think so.

Hair on Robots in my book isn't the biggest deal in the world (of Transformers), since they're there for any number of robotic reasons like sensors, or part of their sparks design... etc etc, either way, hair is fine, since I like the variety it adds....BUT
when the hair is put on a beloved oldschool character, it needs to be done in respect to the character, in this case, wheeljack.....
Making him obviously and blatantly look like a HUMAN from earth history that is so widely known to be a genuis scientist is just BS HALF A$$ED GARBAGE. Thats the most childish approach, its basically saying, Wheeljack has no character of his own... just think of him as the einstein of the group.. lets just make him look like a stereotypical crazed scientist who EVERYONE and their granny will recognize, that way we won't need to elaborate on him much with dialogue or any creative writing. In that regard, wheeljack is a FAIL from the Bayverse, among many other botched characters and their visual appearance.

Leadfoot looks stupid... a Nascar bot, who would on his own world be a fast bot wouldn't have such a pudgy design... it doesn't make sense... and is another clear attempt to simply associate the bots with human characteristics visually to eleviate any lack of creative writing.

This here is probably the stupidest post I read.
Im facepalming you right now pal, just relax this last movie, can't you just enjoy it for what it I mean its going to get rebooted so relax, mind you NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO WATCH THE FILM ,simply fact you don't like don't watch.

rich prime wrote:This here is probably the stupidest post I read.
Im facepalming you right now pal, just relax this last movie, can't you just enjoy it for what it I mean its going to get rebooted so relax, mind you NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO WATCH THE FILM ,simply fact you don't like don't watch.

rich prime wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

rich prime wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:Wow, blue mullet bot looks stupid as hell.

I like to see you come up with a better design jerk, take your G1 crap and shove it up your ass

Wreckers rules top spin looks badass

You don't know me or what I prefer and yet you're willing to pigeonhole me as a G1 fanboy. Good for you, let's see how much of your opinion I give a rat's ass about. Here's some info about me for ya. I like probably more about the franchise than most people and am tolerant of lots of things I may not necessarily enjoy a great deal in it. I happen to enjoy both movies so far and I'm probably a bigger fan of the twins than you're probably gonna meet. So really, call me names and assume things about me. I don't care, mullet bot still looks stupid as hell. I've been here long before you and I will be here long after you.

Fine have it your way I respect your opinion

Coming from you, the same person who has had this back and forth in the Hi Res DOTM head shot thread, your voice means nothing to me.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

rich prime wrote:This here is probably the stupidest post I read.
Im facepalming you right now pal, just relax this last movie, can't you just enjoy it for what it I mean its going to get rebooted so relax, mind you NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO WATCH THE FILM ,simply fact you don't like don't watch.

rich prime wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

rich prime wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:Wow, blue mullet bot looks stupid as hell.

I like to see you come up with a better design jerk, take your G1 crap and shove it up your ass

Wreckers rules top spin looks badass

You don't know me or what I prefer and yet you're willing to pigeonhole me as a G1 fanboy. Good for you, let's see how much of your opinion I give a rat's ass about. Here's some info about me for ya. I like probably more about the franchise than most people and am tolerant of lots of things I may not necessarily enjoy a great deal in it. I happen to enjoy both movies so far and I'm probably a bigger fan of the twins than you're probably gonna meet. So really, call me names and assume things about me. I don't care, mullet bot still looks stupid as hell. I've been here long before you and I will be here long after you.

Fine have it your way I respect your opinion

Coming from you, the same person who has had this back and forth in the Hi Res DOTM head shot thread, your voice means nothing to me.

Whatever jerk enjoy your childhood being raped.

Seriously richprime, you need to chill. You're become the old me. I used to be like this, but you've got to cool down before this gets much more of a flame thread.

Hahaha, he edited it from "Whatever jerk"
to "Whatever jerk enjoy your childhood being raped"

man..someones mad... I thought you'd be used to getting pwned by now.
This is what you get for being ill mannered... i'm not gonna cry to some mod, I simply don't need to..
Sorry for the tangent, resta ya... trash has gota be taken out sometime or it just sits and stinks up the place.

Gyrotron wrote:Seriously richprime, you need to chill. You're become the old me. I used to be like this, but you've got to cool down before this gets much more of a flame thread.

I am but these haters they making me more mad every second, they bash the **** out of everything, then again its the internet.

MINDVVIPE wrote:Hahaha, he edited it from "Whatever jerk"
to "Whatever jerk enjoy your childhood being raped"

man..someones mad... I thought you'd be used to getting pwned by now.
This is what you get for being il manored... i'm not gonna cry to some mod, I simply don't need to..
Sorry for the tangent, resta ya... trash has gota be taken out sometime or it just sits and stinks up the place.

Your getting me more mad