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Is he a classic? Is he part of the Masterpiece line? He is in classic packaging right? Is masterpiece considered a breed of classics?

I know there are other anniversary lines... like 10th anniversary beast wars etc. but 20th Prime is obviously not part of that right?

He's Masterpiece.

Though others have been inclined to include him on the Alternator shelves.

I think 20th Anniversary Prime is in his own. Alone, alone, alone.

The closest series he can join in is Masterpiece. That is, if we include Japanese lines.

Burn wrote:He's Masterpiece.

Though others have been inclined to include him on the Alternator shelves.

Weird, so why doesn't it say masterpiece on the front like MPSS does? You think Hasbro would want to put that on the front

CONfusing!!

Also, what do you mean by Alternator shelves?

Anyone who thinks he is an alternator is an idiot.

Ofcourse he is part of the Masterpiece line. That is why his designation is MP 1, i.e. the first of the MP line. The DVD Prime in particular is just Hasbro's inferior production cersion of MP-1 and doesn't say Masterpiece because some jackass in marketing thought that caling it DVD Prime would yield higher sales.

Bonger wrote:Anyone who thinks he is an alternator is an idiot.

Ofcourse he is part of the Masterpiece line. That is why his designation is MP 1, i.e. the first of the MP line. The DVD Prime in particular is just Hasbro's inferior production cersion of MP-1 and doesn't say Masterpiece because some jackass in marketing thought that caling it DVD Prime would yield higher sales.

Dude you are crackin me up. How come Seibertron does not have MPSS on or DVD Prime on the products listings page? Shouldn't there be a Masterpiece section?

Maybe they are not there cuz no one knows where to put them?

skyblast wrote:

Bonger wrote:Anyone who thinks he is an alternator is an idiot.

Ofcourse he is part of the Masterpiece line. That is why his designation is MP 1, i.e. the first of the MP line. The DVD Prime in particular is just Hasbro's inferior production cersion of MP-1 and doesn't say Masterpiece because some jackass in marketing thought that caling it DVD Prime would yield higher sales.

Dude you are crackin me up. How come Seibertron does not have MPSS on or DVD Prime on the products listings page? Shouldn't there be a Masterpiece section?

Maybe they are not there cuz no one knows where to put them?

Actually, if you go to the Toys section, there is a seperate section for MPs, which includes SS and DVD Pime.

This is not opinion, it is fact, DVD Prime is a cheap Hasbro version of MP 1.

20th Anniversary is not intended to be part of Alternators line. They were not designed to fit together. Some people think their scales are close enough, so they bound them together in one group.

But that's a mistake. Prime is of smaller scale than Alternator's 1/24, generally. But in reality, it's close to impossible to determine the exact scale of Prime. One reason is that, it is grossly out of proportion. Different parts of Prime truck is of different scales. There's not one unified scale for this toy.

Aside from the scale, another reason they don't go together is that, Alternators are designed to be car-accurate. Based on realistic branded cars. Each part of the car, including interiors are patterned as closely as possible, to the branded car model it is copied from, to the correct scale. Whereas Prime is intended to be an accurate replica of the cartoon robot. Take note, only the robot. The truck mode proportions is sacrificed to achieve this end. Moreover, his truck mode does not mimick any particular brand or model. Just a generic COE truck.

20th Anniv Prime and MP Starscream were not originally intended to go together either. (Notwithstanding that they came from a single toy line of its Japanese counterpart.)

Hasbro took MP-01 and repackaged it into 20th Anniv, just for the purpose of creating an American collector item, in time for the 20th Anniversary of Transformers. No particular series was created for him. Just a single lonesome 20th Anniv toy.

That's why Starscream was badged as Masterpiece, as it should be, while Prime was not.

Oooooh I found it. So where is MPSS? Just not updated yet?

Auto Bot wrote:20th Anniversary is not intended to be part of Alternators line. They were not designed to fit together. Some people think their scales are close enough, so they bound them together in one group.

But that's a mistake. Prime is of smaller scale than Alternator's 1/24, generally. But in reality, it's close to impossible to determine the exact scale of Prime. One reason is that, it is grossly out of proportion. Different parts of Prime truck is of different scales. There's not one unified scale for this toy.

Aside from the scale, another reason they don't go together is that, Alternators are designed to be car-accurate. Based on realistic branded cars. Each part of the car, including interiors are patterned as closely as possible, to the branded car model it is copied from, to the correct scale. Whereas Prime is intended to be an accurate replica of the cartoon robot. Take note, only the robot. The truck mode proportions is sacrificed to achieve this end. Moreover, his truck mode does not mimick any particular brand or model. Just a generic COE truck.

20th Anniv Prime and MP Starscream were not originally intended to go together either. (Notwithstanding that they came from a single toy line of its Japanese counterpart.)

Hasbro took MP-01 and repackaged it into 20th Anniv, just for the purpose of creating an American collector item, in time for the 20th Anniversary of Transformers. No particular series was created for him. Just a single lonesome 20th Anniv toy.

That's why Starscream was badged as Masterpiece, as it should be, while Prime was not.

Got it!! Now it's starting to make sense. I posted this to get answers to my other recent post...Classics 1.0. Wondering should I include DVD Prime and MPSS in classics 1.0? Clearly now I think the answer is no. Dang, I wish Hasbro would do a better job of changing up its packaging when it does not intend a toy to be part of a particular line.

I was looking at Hasbro's checklist, and both Prime and Starscream fall under classics. There's a bunch of classics figures that are listed under cybertron, though...

Where does 20th Anniversary Prime fall?

On my head when i bump my desk

20th Prime was never tied to a line IIRC.

and I'm pretty sure DVD Prime falls under Classics.

Masterpeice Prime (01) is the Japanese version of 20th Prime w/o the battle damage and with longer stacks. MP 04 has a trailer.
Obviously both are part of the Masterpeice line.

All that being said... why does it really matter
(unless you're one of those crazies that needs to have every figure from a particular line whether you like it or not to be able to consider yourself a "True Fan" )

Auto Bot wrote:20th Anniversary is not intended to be part of Alternators line. They were not designed to fit together. Some people think their scales are close enough, so they bound them together in one group.

That's just it, in robot mode they're close enough.

Those who are putting MP Prime and Alternators together on the one shelf tend to do so in robot mode. Prime's always suppose to have been the bigger bot so aesthetically they complement each other.

And that's no more idiotic than sitting behind your monitor calling others idiotic for how they set up THEIR collection shelves.

Never claimed it was idiotic to display them together. I do so myself.

However, the fella' question was what line it officially belonged to. To claim it is an alt, is equally idiotic to claiming it is part of the Classics series.

I is from the MP line and thats just how it is, like it or not.

What DVD is DVD Prime supposed to be from?

DISCHARGE wrote:What DVD is DVD Prime supposed to be from?

Transformers: The Movie, 1986. To be exact the 20th Anniversary version.

Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks

Bun-Bun wrote:

Where does 20th Anniversary Prime fall?

On my head when i bump my desk

20th Prime was never tied to a line IIRC.

and I'm pretty sure DVD Prime falls under Classics.

Masterpeice Prime (01) is the Japanese version of 20th Prime w/o the battle damage and with longer stacks. MP 04 has a trailer.
Obviously both are part of the Masterpeice line.

All that being said... why does it really matter
(unless you're one of those crazies that needs to have every figure from a particular line whether you like it or not to be able to consider yourself a "True Fan" )

Damn!! I guess I've been diagnosed then!!! Finally after all these years I know what I am...a crazy!

Glad I could help