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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby crazy2506 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:34 pm

Not to repeat a cliche (at this point in the thread) answer, but life has taken precedence.

That's it plain and simple. Now witty remark or philosophical rant regarding the trials and tribulations of existence or diatribes about the existential questions that keep us awake at night. Nope, not gonna happen here.

And besides, I haven't had an scotch in the house for a couple of months now. I ask you my friends, how can one fully enjoy the highs and lows of this game without scotch?

...

Anyway, I'm off to see if I got spanked in this latest round of missions or not.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby MasterCroc » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:37 pm

Hey where are all the little Maximals at? I'm looking to sink my teeth in them. :twisted:
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Omega Charge » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:46 am

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The Maximals have been pretty active in the last few days. They're outnumbering Preds in missions.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Archanubis » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:17 am

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Omega Charge wrote:They're outnumbering Preds in missions.

Preds are always outnumbered; after all there are only *counts* 6 Pred players. :P
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Omega Charge » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:18 am

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and who might they be?
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Psychout » Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:25 am

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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Tammuz » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:03 pm

the problem i have is that i outlevel all but spidey, and with the missions i only get a the 3-6 range, so they're basically fodder, or if i'm feeling kind i'llsend a strafer against they'rew rammers so they can at least still earn XP... poor bastards that they are.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Archanubis » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:10 pm

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Well, since Mkall and Caelus can now tinker with the game, maybe they can "adjust" the :BOT:/ :CON: vs :MAX:/ :PRED: and :MAX: vs :PRED: missions to 1-11. ;;)
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Tammuz » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:15 pm

yeah, well at least it's a start... but really they'res little point in giving them more missions without adding to start up page a way for newbs to join those factions, and some way of automated defection so that they can get populated.

they either need to be made fully functioning factions or be rolled back into their mother factions

i really do think we can't support 4 factions in this game, they're just aren't enough active players...
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Archanubis » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:26 pm

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Tammuz wrote:i really do think we can't support 4 factions in this game, they're just aren't enough active players...

Steadily active players, at least.

The other thing I have to ask is how many new/casual fans to the Transformers franchise (as a whole) are familiar with the Maximals and Predacons as factions? It's been, what, 12-13 years since Beast Wars debuted, and those two factions only had at least 6yrs of exposure in the nearly 25yrs of the series' history; the rest of that time has been dominated by the Autobots and Decepticons. Just my theory.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Omega Charge » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:42 pm

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Tammuz wrote:i really do think we can't support 4 factions in this game, they're just aren't enough active players...

Steadily active players, at least.

The other thing I have to ask is how many new/casual fans to the Transformers franchise (as a whole) are familiar with the Maximals and Predacons as factions? It's been, what, 12-13 years since Beast Wars debuted, and those two factions only had at least 6yrs of exposure in the nearly 25yrs of the series' history; the rest of that time has been dominated by the Autobots and Decepticons. Just my theory.

That's true. New players signing up, if given a choice, most likely would side with the Bots or Cons. What draws more players is the bestial alts that a lot of guys like.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Psychout » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:12 pm

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Please correct me if im wrong here, but it is possible Mkall isnt able to fix the beastie factions.

If so, the only realistic solution is for the the pred/max players to restart as bots/cons (legally - ie with admin permission) and for Mkall to credit the xp/energon amounts they did have to their new accounts allowing them to continue in whatever G1 faction they preferred.

Unless the preds/maxi's are happy where they are I suppose, in which case we can leave them to it.

Just an idea mind.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby MasterCroc » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:29 pm

Is there a way to put in some new Beast Alts into the list?
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Tammuz » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:46 pm

well, yes, but it involves mkall photoshopping every single one (at both sizes) to be white as otherwise they aint compatible with color selector

a tedious task indeed. don't hold your breath.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby -Soundwave- » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:56 pm

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Tammuz wrote:well, yes, but it involves mkall photoshopping every single one (at both sizes) to be white as otherwise they aint compatible with color selector

a tedious task indeed. don't hold your breath.

I could make Dyna do it he hasn't anything else to do while I am at work. :P
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Psychout » Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:50 pm

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Tammuz wrote:well, yes, but it involves mkall photoshopping every single one (at both sizes) to be white as otherwise they aint compatible with color selector

a tedious task indeed. don't hold your breath.

I could make Dyna do it he hasn't anything else to do while I am at work. :P

Good point. Whats stopping Mkall from getting a group of us to do it?
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Rampage01 » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:02 pm

Psychout wrote:Spidey
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The ones worths fighting against anyway...


My ego tells me that I should be insulted that I'm not on that list, but my common sense tells me that everyone on that list is a target and staying off it is a good thing.

My feet also tell me that my sock has a hole in it. I think I'm going to listen to my feet on this one. =P~
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Tammuz » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:12 pm

Rampage01 wrote:
Psychout wrote:Spidey
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Absolute Zero

The ones worths fighting against anyway...


My ego tells me that I should be insulted that I'm not on that list, but my common sense tells me that everyone on that list is a target and staying off it is a good thing.

My feet also tell me that my sock has a hole in it. I think I'm going to listen to my feet on this one. =P~


the cons only have access to the 3-6 pred mission, we can't fight you at all, and to be worth fighting agaisnt you really need to be at the top of that level bracket, the lower levels just aren't worth the xp.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Jeep? » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:45 pm

There really needs to be a reduction on the number of missions. I propose 30 missions TOTAL - 5 for each faction-versus-faction possibility. Like thus:

0-2
3-5
6-8
9-11
3-11

Repeated for each of the BC, BM, BP, CM, CP, MP combinations. Keep the numbers per side in them quite high (6+ a side). I'll draft names and text for all 30 if anyone's willing to get behind this. It should keep opposition steady, and hopefully cut down on the number of logs being produced.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Chaoslock » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:57 pm

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Jeep! wrote:There really needs to be a reduction on the number of missions. I propose 30 missions TOTAL - 5 for each faction-versus-faction possibility. Like thus:

0-2
3-5
6-8
9-11
3-11

Repeated for each of the BC, BM, BP, CM, CP, MP combinations. Keep the numbers per side in them quite high (6+ a side). I'll draft names and text for all 30 if anyone's willing to get behind this. It should keep opposition steady, and hopefully cut down on the number of logs being produced.


I'd keep these missions too:
1-3
1-11
6-11 (4-11 against furries)
3-7
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Tammuz » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:14 pm

a level 0 cannot take on a level2 JP, if ther was one thing we should've learned from the christmas tournie that was it. and a level 3 will struggle to take out a level 5

you need a level 0 only mission. and you also need transitional missions so that each level up gains yo access to new missions and better rewards, at present level 7 is crap, you don't get any thing new, and really can just sit at level 6 and expierence all the goodness off level 7 for cheaper CR costs


and i really don't think reducing the number of missions is in itself neccasary
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Rat Convoy » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:19 pm

We knew a level 0 couldn't take a level 2 BEFORE the Christmas tourney. I pointed that out to Glyph right at the beginning, the fact that the 0-2 level bracket wasn't going to be any good. No one listened so I just shrugged my shoulders and proceeded to whup up in those missions.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Tammuz » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:36 pm

tis true Ratboy, but it's the biggest example of it i can remember

Ideally i'd like a single level 0 mission than the 2 level missions all the way up to maybe level 6~7 where you can spread them further, with the odd massive lv 1-11

I'd also like to see the mission win bonus raised to the CR cost of the highest level, and the energon for damage removed entirely.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Psychout » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:41 pm

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Deadboy wrote:I pointed that out to Glyph right at the beginning, the fact that the 0-2 level bracket wasn't going to be any good. No one listened so I just shrugged my shoulders and proceeded to whup up in those missions.
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(And a damn fun tourney it was too.)
The latter half of JP's list works for me, although i am only mid level, but there is the argument that the 0-2's do help to let the lower levels advance a bit faster. In the interest of keeping the newbies with the shorter attention spans interested for longer, it may be wise to consider it.
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Re: Where the hell are all the Autobots??!

Postby Tammuz » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:46 pm

but they shouldn't be forced to to take on level 2s or go to the arena.


and i'm really not a fan, it' leaves me with a 6-8, or a 3-11 neither of which i like at all.
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