The Energon Pub

From what I heard, Orci wanted Unicron FOR the sense of scale.
Plus, I don't know, Autobot Mustache looks too...Autoboty to me.

I want say it is Alpha Trion or Vector Prime, but i don't know it could be any one.I just we have to wait and see.

Bradimus wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Bradimus wrote:

City Commander wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

TypeRProwl wrote:It has to be Alpha Trion as ROTF stated all other primes were dead. Dead as in dead, not dead as in having a nap like this dude seems to be doing.

Just because one guy says they're all dead doesn't make it true. What if they where supposedly dead? Then what!?

But it wasnt just 1 guy that said it.

The ghost of the Primes themselfs said that there were no others left.

Now, I wouldnt put it past Bay to say this guys a Prime.But if thats the case it creates a plot issue with the series.

Considering this is the movie-verse, where crazy stuff happens without explanation all the time, I fully expect this guy the be a dead Prime that somehow got struck by an allspark shard and is now coming back to life.




I'm still reeling from the bullcrap they put out over mass shifting in the first film, only to go ahead and use it anyway.... hmph

Don't forget how the big fight at the end of the first film took place in Mission City until Leo said it took place in LA when he meets Sam in the dorm. How something so simple can be overlooked...

Is mission city even a real place? If not, maybe the area was LA, somewhere close. Besides, Leo isn't a mapmaker, what if he doesn't know **** about where it took place?

Mission City does not exist. Bay made it up from parts of LA, Detroit (the old building Sam climbs was the old Detroit train station filmed shortly before demolition with some extra gargoyle props, and the building Megatron blasts Prime into after they exchange shots is also in Detroit), Chicago, and some studio lots (did I leave any locations out?).

I actually took the time to look at a map to see if there was a city 20 miles away from the Hoover Dam, and if LA was close enough to have been used. Unfortunately LA is too far, and the nearest city doesn't look anything like it. That mess up is another reason not to rush a movie script before a writers' strike.

The whole story's a fiction. So, does it have to be Geographically correct?

Red 50 wrote:The whole story's a fiction. So, does it have to be Geographically correct?

This is the problem with having real world places in fiction. I know we have a serious education problem today (as proven by Jay-walking) so the short answer is no, it does not have to be 100% correct. But, once something takes place in the movie directly before, it's just plain insulting to change the location of the big fight. Maybe they wanted LA to be the city of the big fight because of the connection to our past established in RotF, but again, that's insulting to anyone who has the slightest geographical knowledge, let alone someone who watched the previous film. I'm willing to overlook the issues with geography in the Mid East for the sake of the story moving along (after the usual dead stop by the two writers that happens in every film they make, see TF1 and Star Trek to name two others), but I can't stand a sequel contradicting the movie before it (though there is a long history of sequels doing this).

does any1 know is unicron will be in this?

Bradimus wrote:

Red 50 wrote:The whole story's a fiction. So, does it have to be Geographically correct?

This is the problem with having real world places in fiction. I know we have a serious education problem today (as proven by Jay-walking) so the short answer is no, it does not have to be 100% correct. But, once something takes place in the movie directly before, it's just plain insulting to change the location of the big fight. Maybe they wanted LA to be the city of the big fight because of the connection to our past established in RotF, but again, that's insulting to anyone who has the slightest geographical knowledge, let alone someone who watched the previous film. I'm willing to overlook the issues with geography in the Mid East for the sake of the story moving along (after the usual dead stop by the two writers that happens in every film they make, see TF1 and Star Trek to name two others), but I can't stand a sequel contradicting the movie before it (though there is a long history of sequels doing this).

Agreed, and I actually was a big fan of the first film. It was very choppy in alot of areas, and hardly alot of transitions as certain characters would just jump to certain location, or have their whereabouts under wraps to make their appearence plausable...but thats just Bays style....and I looked passed it. It was a fun film. With "Fallen" however things just went to the grinder...I wasn't too hung up about the geography being my mindset pretty much left the film long before that point. Things like re-occuring dead characters, missing characters, and layers after layers after layers of comedy punchlines just left me shaking my head.

The funny thing though, after all the unrecognizable bots from "Fallen", it seems like Bay has the gaul to show us "Goldilocks" like were suppose to recognize him. Which alone should say something about the deign itself and sadly how this film will go about.

im new to this forum, so i hope im not offending anyone or repeating thing that have already been said.

judging by the previous mb transformers, you cant realy rely on looks to identify characters.

leaves the scene.
seems to me an old looking transformer is suspended(not sitting) behind something of a door that is slightly a jar. so my guess is he is not piloting this vessel thats filled with transformer corpses.

any guess on captive autobots or decepticons?


also i found the flythrough his eye showing whats on his mind very intresting.


unicron?

UNICRON! I saw that, but i didn't say anything.

GEEWUN wrote:Here is an image of "Mustachio"

for every one out there posting in this topic go to google and find a pick of optimus's face without the guard on he looks just like optimus minus the the silver antenas, and mustache. So from what i heard on other sites you are supposed to see optimus's dad which i heard is Rodimus so ya it's rodimus $10 on it

GEEWUN wrote:Here is an image of "Mustachio"

Unicron!

Joshua Vallse wrote:

Bradimus wrote:

Red 50 wrote:The whole story's a fiction. So, does it have to be Geographically correct?

This is the problem with having real world places in fiction. I know we have a serious education problem today (as proven by Jay-walking) so the short answer is no, it does not have to be 100% correct. But, once something takes place in the movie directly before, it's just plain insulting to change the location of the big fight. Maybe they wanted LA to be the city of the big fight because of the connection to our past established in RotF, but again, that's insulting to anyone who has the slightest geographical knowledge, let alone someone who watched the previous film. I'm willing to overlook the issues with geography in the Mid East for the sake of the story moving along (after the usual dead stop by the two writers that happens in every film they make, see TF1 and Star Trek to name two others), but I can't stand a sequel contradicting the movie before it (though there is a long history of sequels doing this).

Agreed, and I actually was a big fan of the first film. It was very choppy in alot of areas, and hardly alot of transitions as certain characters would just jump to certain location, or have their whereabouts under wraps to make their appearence plausable...but thats just Bays style....and I looked passed it. It was a fun film. With "Fallen" however things just went to the grinder...I wasn't too hung up about the geography being my mindset pretty much left the film long before that point. Things like re-occuring dead characters, missing characters, and layers after layers after layers of comedy punchlines just left me shaking my head.

The funny thing though, after all the unrecognizable bots from "Fallen", it seems like Bay has the gaul to show us "Goldilocks" like were suppose to recognize him. Which alone should say something about the deign itself and sadly how this film will go about.

I agree on the comedy angle, but honestly Megatron seems to have a "we have reserves" policy about combat. I always interpreted the Constructicons, for example, as his elite soldier (hence why they are rarer, but not limited to the parts that make Devestator). The numerous faceless Decepticons you see could have simply been called into battle without them bothering to find a disguise, and the duplicates merely copied similar vehicles to their predicesor.

Remember at this point in the story (the Egypt battle) the Decepticons had dropped all pretense of hiding.

Back on topic: if that's not Hotrod I'll eat my friggin' hat. No seriously, I already have a bet with someone.

The ploys that make up ROTF just don't work for me for the film as a whole. And mind you I'm not someone who grew up with fond childhood memories of these characters nor do I have any emotional attachment to them due to said childhood. So when I saw the 1st TF film...I saw it as a fan of movies, not a fan of Transformers. And I liked it, it was a great fun film.

That established, when I saw "Fallen", I note my dislike of the film as a film, not a TF Movie, just as a movie. And as a movie, it was pretty bad. Just plot wise and such, the film as a whole was pretty choppy. No film of that magnatude, with a story line as established as this franchise has, should cease to work as a whole film due to a writers strike which seems to be the favored scapegoat. Nor should it need said plotholes and such explained by guess work or comics or novels....the film by itself should work as a whole.

Thats said, my main concern is how clear and professional this movie will turn out being the pressure which was for me the undoing of "Fallen" seemed to have multiplied with a shorter turnaround for "Moon", and it's teaser character, which seems to be played as a major staple for this third movie, isn't even recognizable by anyone here at this forum, which is the franchises core fanbase. This is what I'm concerned about. And with alot of competition this year and even another robot film (Hugh Jackman stars), and the lack luster hype generated by the Golden boy, it all seems meh.

and it's teaser character, which seems to be played as a major staple for this third movie, isn't even recognizable by anyone here at this forum, which is the franchises core fanbase

I like that it's keeping us guessing. A character who's supposed to be a major player should remain mysterious, and with Transformer's nature of having new character designs with each new continuity it's possible to do this while showing us what they look like at the same time.

Personally, I doubt it will be a disapointment.

GEEWUN wrote:Here is an image of "Mustachio"

seperate from what i said earlier, the face realy reminds me of Lord Zarak!

How awesome would it be if the crashed spaceship turns out to be Scorponok?!
That would provide for a big decepticon to knock over a building.

Who else would like to see Scorponok transform in 3D?

How awesome would it be if the crashed spaceship turns out to be Scorponok?!
That would provide for a big decepticon to knock over a building.

Who else would like to see Scorponok transform in 3D?

Well, we had Scorpinok already in this series, and he's deader than dead. Now Trypticon(sp?)?

Yes please!

Omega Supreme vs. Trypticon for the final battle would be so awsome.

Capt.Failure wrote:

How awesome would it be if the crashed spaceship turns out to be Scorponok?!
That would provide for a big decepticon to knock over a building.

Who else would like to see Scorponok transform in 3D?

Well, we had Scorpinok already in this series, and he's deader than dead. Now Trypticon(sp?)?

Yes please!

Omega Supreme vs. Trypticon for the final battle would be so awsome.

oh, right sorry, i guess that slipped my mind lol

the omega v.s. triyticon would be awsome

back to mucshticio.
for me as i said earlier look at a movie verse optimus head
then look at the mustached bot. when you look at the two pics look at the sides of the head they both seem to have the same antenas and the vents on there forheads are simailarly placed so i think it will be rodimus as primes DAD!!

Capt.Failure wrote:
Well, we had Scorpinok already in this series, and he's deader than dead.

We already had a Devastator in the first film, but we still got an other one in the 2nd film.

t$money$49 wrote:the omega v.s. triyticon would be awsome

back to mucshticio.
for me as i said earlier look at a movie verse optimus head
then look at the mustached bot. when you look at the two pics look at the sides of the head they both seem to have the same antenas and the vents on there forheads are simailarly placed so i think it will be rodimus as primes DAD!!

Omega vs. Tripticon would be great fight and Omega would then be able to end the current trilogy by providing the Autobots a way back to Cybertron to save it (with some artifact or knowledge acquired during DotM).

As for Rodimus being the bot in the teaser, based on Energon Rodimus being older than Optimus in that story, I'd say that's another good guess alongside Sentinel Prime, Alpha Trion, and Vector Prime. It's the yellow/gold that makes me lean towards Sentinel Prime or Rodimus. It would be very cool if ship tied into that story in Energon about Rodimus leading a united group of Autobots and Decepticons away from the war in the early days. Of course, in some stories Nova Prime and Sentinal Prime did the same thing. But Rodimus is the hot name right now (no pun intended), so this could be a very interesting take on the character.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Capt.Failure wrote:
Well, we had Scorpinok already in this series, and he's deader than dead.

We already had a Devastator in the first film, but we still got an other one in the 2nd film.

Megatron even called him Devastator when he landed in Mission City after the "big tank thing" was knocked down. Devastator said "Megatron!" And Megatron replied "Devastator." For some reason that did not make the subtitles. I still think they were supposed to correct the name to Brawl but never got around to it in time and decided not to correct it for the DVD even though fans would have readily accepted the change with joy. Oh well.

I'm fairly certain you'll find an interview out there where Bay admitted it was a mistake, there was a mix up between himself and Hasbro over the name.

Burn wrote:I'm fairly certain you'll find an interview out there where Bay admitted it was a mistake, there was a mix up between himself and Hasbro over the name.

Doubtful, nothing Bay does is a mistake as according to "The Bay".

I will note that someone said something about a resemblance to Optimus, and noticed the little ear wings on the side of Goldilocks' head I didn't notice before, however I'll also say that after viewing the trailer a number of times after watching other movies in the theatre like Tron and True Grit, the size and scale of this bot seems to be kinda large....as in close to Devastator large.

Which makes me lean more towards Fortress Maximus, even though it doesn't look like him....but in the Bay-verse that accounts for spit.

Either way I too don't think I'll be disappointed....however it's for entirely different reasons

Joshua Vallse wrote:

Burn wrote:I'm fairly certain you'll find an interview out there where Bay admitted it was a mistake, there was a mix up between himself and Hasbro over the name.

Doubtful, nothing Bay does is a mistake as according to "The Bay".

Given that I was one of the first people in the world to see the movie BEFORE the official launch date, and the fact it wasn't corrected by the time it was released internationally, I paid particular interest to any news pertaining to the "error" and i'm fairly certain something was said about it. Whether it was Bay or a "stooge" i'm not sure. But i'm sure something was said.

Burn wrote:Given that I was one of the first people in the world to see the movie BEFORE the official launch date, and the fact it wasn't corrected by the time it was released internationally, I paid particular interest to any news pertaining to the "error" and i'm fairly certain something was said about it. Whether it was Bay or a "stooge" i'm not sure. But i'm sure something was said.

I'm sure there was....even so, I'm accrediting the stooge he he

This is all I will say about this 'bot for now. If I see any hint that he has a sword I will be sold on Vector Prime until I'm proven wrong.I know that they all love the melee weapons in these movies but I can hope can't I? I like the idea of the ship being the Ark. But hionestly if this turns out to be Hot Rod/Rodimus......I might actually go to Bay's house and wait for him....I don't want what happened to Jetfire to happen to him too....